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From: don bailey <don.bailey@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] security
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:51:35 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4724B007.6090908@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cc6e509319590eee5371dc0def82e1a@9netics.com>

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> in that case, one should build a sandbox, climb into it and import the
> fs.  the potential damage is contained.  maybe 9fs should have an
> option to do that.
> 

What if the trojan broke out of that sandbox? Or knows how to
import other parts of the namespace into its process? Namespaces
on Plan 9 are nice, but they absolutely do not constitute a safe
sandbox. Boo easy answers.

> i didn't say implicitly trust everything, but if you decided to be
> part of a group, you're implicitly trusting them.  it would be as
> if you asked every coworker to walk through a metal detector
> before they could approach you. if you don't, then you're implicitly
> trusting they wont harm you.
> 

Making a parallel between your workplace environment and a network
security environment is a dangerous thing. Have you ever seen a
little green blob with one eye stuck to the top of your coworker's
head, controlling your coworker's thoughts and actions? Get back
to me when you do :-)

D


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-28 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-26 22:38 [9fans] grap retarded?? Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-26 23:17 ` geoff
2007-10-26 23:22   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27  2:51   ` [9fans] detecting spam arisawa
2007-10-27  3:16     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27  4:38       ` [9fans] security erik quanstrom
2007-10-27  9:03         ` roger peppe
2007-10-27 10:04           ` arisawa
2007-10-27 12:48             ` Uriel
2007-10-27 14:54           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 17:19         ` Tim Newsham
2007-10-27 19:18           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 22:20             ` don bailey
2007-10-27 22:25               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 22:33                 ` don bailey
2007-10-28  0:17                 ` David Leimbach
2007-10-28  6:00                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28  6:06                     ` john
2007-10-28  8:32                     ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-10-28 20:53               ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-27 23:40             ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28  6:11               ` don bailey
2007-10-28  6:30                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28  6:42                   ` don bailey
2007-10-28  7:28                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 12:53                       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 15:52                         ` don bailey
2007-10-28 15:51                       ` don bailey [this message]
2007-10-28 15:59                         ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 16:30                           ` don bailey
2007-10-28 17:14                             ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 17:22                             ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-10-28 17:44                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 20:37                           ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-28 16:10                         ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-28 16:26                           ` don bailey
2007-10-28 18:30                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 18:43                           ` Uriel
2007-10-28 18:58                             ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 22:48                             ` arisawa
2007-10-28 23:29                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29  2:30                               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-27  9:00       ` [9fans] detecting spam roger peppe
2007-10-27 13:16         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 13:41           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 13:43             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 14:04           ` Martin Neubauer
2007-10-29 10:10 ` [9fans] grap retarded?? Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-10-29 18:43   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29 10:10 ` Douglas A. Gwyn

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