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From: Skip Tavakkolian <9nut@9netics.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] security
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:40:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac7bc94ff1c9d4e1ecfa6a5a933e1720@9netics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe39419c8601f05a9daf0a9b20cf5287@quanstro.net>

>> How about forking off a server process that lets me execute arbitrary 
>> commands as you?
>> 
>> How about placing trojan processes in your person bin directory?
>> 
>> How about subtly corrupting all of the writable data in your filesystem?
>> 
>> How about setting up a spam bot on your machine?  Using your machine as 
>> part of a distributed denial-of-service attack against some other 
>> networked machines?
>> 
>> How about replacing your compiler with one that introduces errors 
>> nondeterministically?  Changing your acme to occasionally not save your 
>> data?
>> 
>> If you sit down and think of it for a little bit you'll notice this is 
>> just the tip of the iceburg.  There are lots of irritating things that can 
>> happen even without setuid or a super user.

you are stating truisms.  you might as well add "how about poisoning
your friends that you invited for dinner." at that point you're
betraying an implicit trust.

if you don't trust your users, you can create a temporary namespace to
house a copy of system binaries and narrow the / for that user to
his/her ns.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-27 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-26 22:38 [9fans] grap retarded?? Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-26 23:17 ` geoff
2007-10-26 23:22   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27  2:51   ` [9fans] detecting spam arisawa
2007-10-27  3:16     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27  4:38       ` [9fans] security erik quanstrom
2007-10-27  9:03         ` roger peppe
2007-10-27 10:04           ` arisawa
2007-10-27 12:48             ` Uriel
2007-10-27 14:54           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 17:19         ` Tim Newsham
2007-10-27 19:18           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 22:20             ` don bailey
2007-10-27 22:25               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 22:33                 ` don bailey
2007-10-28  0:17                 ` David Leimbach
2007-10-28  6:00                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28  6:06                     ` john
2007-10-28  8:32                     ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-10-28 20:53               ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-27 23:40             ` Skip Tavakkolian [this message]
2007-10-28  6:11               ` don bailey
2007-10-28  6:30                 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28  6:42                   ` don bailey
2007-10-28  7:28                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 12:53                       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 15:52                         ` don bailey
2007-10-28 15:51                       ` don bailey
2007-10-28 15:59                         ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 16:30                           ` don bailey
2007-10-28 17:14                             ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 17:22                             ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-10-28 17:44                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 20:37                           ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-28 16:10                         ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-28 16:26                           ` don bailey
2007-10-28 18:30                         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 18:43                           ` Uriel
2007-10-28 18:58                             ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 22:48                             ` arisawa
2007-10-28 23:29                               ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29  2:30                               ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-27  9:00       ` [9fans] detecting spam roger peppe
2007-10-27 13:16         ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 13:41           ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 13:43             ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 14:04           ` Martin Neubauer
2007-10-29 10:10 ` [9fans] grap retarded?? Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-10-29 18:43   ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29 10:10 ` Douglas A. Gwyn

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