From: Pietro Gagliardi <pietro10@mac.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] security
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:25:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F5B7714B-66A5-442D-95A7-558768AF4AB8@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4723B9AD.8090308@gmail.com>
OS X has root:
$ ls -ld /var
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 Aug 11 2006 /var -> private/var
$ ls -l /private
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 107 root wheel 3638 Oct 2 21:25 etc
drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Aug 1 2006 tftpboot
drwxrwxrwt 22 root wheel 748 Oct 27 18:23 tmp
drwxrwxrwt 4 root wheel 136 Mar 12 2007 tmp 2
drwxr-xr-x 26 root wheel 884 Oct 27 10:03 var
$ # run from Tiger
Oh and here's nice security: boot a Mac and hit Command+S while
booting (before the Apple logo/Happy Mac) and you're root. No
password required.
On Oct 27, 2007, at 6:20 PM, don bailey wrote:
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>> clearly, you're not getting an account on my machine.
>>
>
> This goes back to the typical MacOSX argument:
> "If I have MacOSX laptop and you compromise my local
> account, it doesn't matter because you haven't
> gotten root, right?"
>
> Of course, this isn't true because all your data is owned
> by your user credentials. If someone compromises a single
> user laptop they don't need root or any other super user
> semantic. Being you compromises all the information
> necessary to hurt you: banking information, SSN, credit
> card info, e-mail logins, locally stored files, etc...
>
> I'd say that's enough of a problem. Even Plan 9's well
> designed authentication domains don't properly mitigate
> the issue of the local account being compromised.
>
> D
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-27 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-26 22:38 [9fans] grap retarded?? Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-26 23:17 ` geoff
2007-10-26 23:22 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 2:51 ` [9fans] detecting spam arisawa
2007-10-27 3:16 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 4:38 ` [9fans] security erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 9:03 ` roger peppe
2007-10-27 10:04 ` arisawa
2007-10-27 12:48 ` Uriel
2007-10-27 14:54 ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 17:19 ` Tim Newsham
2007-10-27 19:18 ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 22:20 ` don bailey
2007-10-27 22:25 ` Pietro Gagliardi [this message]
2007-10-27 22:33 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 0:17 ` David Leimbach
2007-10-28 6:00 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 6:06 ` john
2007-10-28 8:32 ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-10-28 20:53 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-27 23:40 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 6:11 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 6:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 6:42 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 7:28 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 12:53 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 15:52 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 15:51 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 15:59 ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 16:30 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 17:14 ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 17:22 ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-10-28 17:44 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-28 20:37 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-10-28 16:10 ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-28 16:26 ` don bailey
2007-10-28 18:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-28 18:43 ` Uriel
2007-10-28 18:58 ` Iruata Souza
2007-10-28 22:48 ` arisawa
2007-10-28 23:29 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29 2:30 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-10-27 9:00 ` [9fans] detecting spam roger peppe
2007-10-27 13:16 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 13:41 ` erik quanstrom
2007-10-27 13:43 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-27 14:04 ` Martin Neubauer
2007-10-29 10:10 ` [9fans] grap retarded?? Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-10-29 18:43 ` Pietro Gagliardi
2007-10-29 10:10 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
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