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From: "Noah Evans" <noah.evans@gmail.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent ofautomounter
Date: Sun,  7 Dec 2008 14:32:52 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56a297000812071232i52effcfen4ceaf1532a507cb6@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AF4DBA6B-FADC-412F-94BB-C9CC1F49CBFF@sun.com>

To clarify Rob's point, the phrase "moral equivalence" comes with some
pretty hefty baggage. In modern usage it's primarily a right wing
term, used to derogatorily refer to leftist arguments. "Morally
equivalent" arguments typically assert that pro-western groups have
selfish(typically economic) motivations when acting(e.g. the wars in
Vietnam and Iraq).

Does that help?

Noah



On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Rob Pike wrote:
>>
>> i don't understand this thread.  the "moral" equivalent? surely you
>> mean "functional" or "rough" or "approximate" or some other adjective,
>> not "moral".
>
> Isn't "moral equivalent of an X" an idiomatic expression that goes beyond
> the original use of it in James's essay?
>
>> the phrase "moral equivalent" originates in the "moral
>> equivalent of war".  using it in this context is wrong, misguided,
>> maybe punishable.
>
> Huh? If this is a joke -- its not funny. The fact that I speak with an
> accent (even in writing) doesn't mean I think with an accent.
>
>> the only moral thing about the automounter is that it's not running on
>> this here machine.  life is imperfect and morality is weaker on other
>> machines i use.
>
>
> What is the point of this paragraph?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-07 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01  7:25 [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9? Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-01  8:38 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-12-01 14:34   ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-01 14:40     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-01 15:08       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-01 15:16         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-01 17:48 ` Russ Cox
2008-12-01 18:17   ` ron minnich
2008-12-01 18:31     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-01 21:18       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-02 18:12         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 18:18           ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 19:25             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 19:29               ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 20:12                 ` hiro
2008-12-02 21:14                 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 21:35                   ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-03  1:26                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-03  1:42                       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-03  2:13                       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-04  7:39                   ` Dave Eckhardt
2008-12-04 14:58                     ` Steve Simon
2008-12-05  4:57                       ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-05 12:10                         ` Steve Simon
2008-12-04 17:57                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-05  4:35                       ` Dave Eckhardt
2008-12-05  4:43                         ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-06  5:16                           ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 13:58                             ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-06  5:14                         ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 14:27                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-07  0:03                             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-07  0:16                               ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent ofautomounter erik quanstrom
2008-12-07  5:20                                 ` Rob Pike
2008-12-07  5:30                                   ` akumar
2008-12-07  5:53                                   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-07 20:32                                     ` Noah Evans [this message]
2008-12-01 18:25   ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9? Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-01 22:48     ` Bakul Shah
2008-12-01 23:11       ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in geoff
2008-12-02 18:15         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02  0:55     ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9? Russ Cox
2008-12-02 18:04       ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 18:31         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-02 19:34           ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 20:05             ` hiro
2008-12-02 21:17               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 21:29                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 23:55                   ` Russ Cox
2008-12-03  0:07                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-03  1:21                       ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-03  1:36                       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-06  5:24                         ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 10:52                           ` Dan Cross
2008-12-03  5:23                     ` Rob Pike

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