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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@swtch.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9?
Date: Mon,  1 Dec 2008 16:55:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd6fe68a0812011655u53e37741lca3a1d7c764ef3a1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228155909.18951.33.camel@goose.sun.com>

> Russ, could, you please be a tad more specific as to what ill
> exactly are you referring to?

I was referring to needing special privilege to mount something.

> While I agree that Plan9 completely removes the need for
> automounter to be a privileged application, I still don't
> see an easy way (expect may be bns and adsrv) to have that
> other property of automounter being easily implemented
> within Plan9 framework.

I described a simple shim program (as did Dan Cross)
that would work just fine, for one user.

> That's very similar to what I referred to as a "synthetic filesystem
> doing the right stuff". But as I pointed out in my original email
> this approach has a downside of never exporting these mounts
> into the namespace of the process that caused them.

You'd have the program export its own name space,
a delicate but not impossible dance.  Then its mounts
would be exported too.

> I guess I'm not quite following you here. What I'm talking about is
> a per-process modifications of namespace by some external agent
> (be it kernel driver or userspace application). As such it is not
> at all different from a user issuing something like "9fs name"
> directly.

That's fine.

> Could you, please, elaborate what exact multi-user scenario do you
> have in mind?

I was talking about multiple users sharing a single automounter,
like in modern Unixes.

Russ


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-02  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-01  7:25 Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-01  8:38 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-12-01 14:34   ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-01 14:40     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-01 15:08       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-01 15:16         ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-12-01 17:48 ` Russ Cox
2008-12-01 18:17   ` ron minnich
2008-12-01 18:31     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-01 21:18       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-02 18:12         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 18:18           ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 19:25             ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 19:29               ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 20:12                 ` hiro
2008-12-02 21:14                 ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 21:35                   ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-03  1:26                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-03  1:42                       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-03  2:13                       ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-04  7:39                   ` Dave Eckhardt
2008-12-04 14:58                     ` Steve Simon
2008-12-05  4:57                       ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-05 12:10                         ` Steve Simon
2008-12-04 17:57                     ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-05  4:35                       ` Dave Eckhardt
2008-12-05  4:43                         ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-06  5:16                           ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 13:58                             ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-06  5:14                         ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 14:27                           ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-07  0:03                             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-07  0:16                               ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent ofautomounter erik quanstrom
2008-12-07  5:20                                 ` Rob Pike
2008-12-07  5:30                                   ` akumar
2008-12-07  5:53                                   ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-07 20:32                                     ` Noah Evans
2008-12-01 18:25   ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9? Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-01 22:48     ` Bakul Shah
2008-12-01 23:11       ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in geoff
2008-12-02 18:15         ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02  0:55     ` Russ Cox [this message]
2008-12-02 18:04       ` [9fans] How to implement a moral equivalent of automounter in Plan9? Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 18:31         ` Nathaniel W Filardo
2008-12-02 19:34           ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 20:05             ` hiro
2008-12-02 21:17               ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-02 21:29                 ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-02 23:55                   ` Russ Cox
2008-12-03  0:07                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-12-03  1:21                       ` Roman V. Shaposhnik
2008-12-03  1:36                       ` Dan Cross
2008-12-06  5:24                         ` Roman Shaposhnik
2008-12-06 10:52                           ` Dan Cross
2008-12-03  5:23                     ` Rob Pike

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