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From: Francisco J Ballesteros <nemo@lsub.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult
Date: Fri,  6 Sep 2013 00:36:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D5F4E79A-A860-48A2-A993-E08CA562687A@lsub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEAzY3-2cP9pqGFVL_OckXxzJZ7BGE1mhdbJpP-HEanCyi4UbQ@mail.gmail.com>

the mark I nix was, thanks to erik, made public and got stuff like graphics.
Im sure you know where to find it.

We have another version which is still experimental and unreleased, 
but we were distracted by other things. Hopefully we will publish it in the
near future. But, we do what we can.


The files you refer to are very old files from before it was copied to erik
distribution, unless Im mistaken. They are still left there as a reference.

As an aside, you already got some stuff that came from the nix effort,
for example, the change to long runes was a joint effort with others from
the labs.

So, it's far from dead. 
Sorry to hear that working on it is insulting.
But we will continue to share everything we do when we think it is ready
to be shared.

On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu <aram.h@mgk.ro> wrote:

> Is nix closed source, dead, or vaporware?
> 
> The daily generated nix.tgz is either not daily generated or the
> tree which it is archiving is dead. Most files are from 2012, most
> recent file (nix/sys/log/nixdistr) is from Feb 8 2013, the kernel
> is from Jul 10 2012.
> 
> The variant posted on sources is even older. Perhaps the 9P service
> at sources.lsub.org is newer? Nope, same thing:
> 
>  --rw-rw-r-- M 0 nemo sys 1964 Jul 10  2012 k8cpu
> 
> This blog mentions a lot of new development happening:
> http://syssoftware.blogspot.com. Unfortunately, all that development
> either is vaporware or under closed doors. The author mentions in
> many places that the source will be "published soon". Unfortunately
> this has not happened.
> 
> Interestingly, the nix source published in 9atom contains newer
> files, May 20th to be exact. It's not just new drivers ported from
> 9atom, the newest non-driver, k10-specific file is stamped May 16th.
> I don't know if the timestamps are simply wrong or some priviledged
> people do get access to the source.
> 
> Considering how little interest is in Plan 9 these days, locking
> Plan 9 under closed doors is a disgrace to this community.
> 
> -- 
> Aram Hăvărneanu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-05 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 22:13 Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-05 22:35 ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-06  8:49   ` Richard Miller
2013-09-06  9:52     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-06 10:24       ` hiro
2013-09-05 22:36 ` Francisco J Ballesteros [this message]
2013-09-05 23:07   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06  8:27     ` Steve Simon
2013-09-06 22:59       ` BurnZeZ
2013-09-06 23:00       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-07 19:15         ` Christopher Nielsen
2013-09-06 23:10       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06 23:35       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-06 23:42         ` Nemo
2013-09-07  2:49         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07  4:06           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2013-09-07  4:36             ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07  6:24               ` pmarin
2013-09-07 13:21               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:28                 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:33                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:41                     ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:56                       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-07 14:32                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:52                         ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 16:28                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07 17:01                           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 17:48                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-09-07 20:46                         ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-07 23:47                           ` Matthew Veety
2013-09-08  0:19                             ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-08  7:00                               ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:58           ` Anthony Sorace
2013-09-07 15:05             ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 15:14             ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 15:46               ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:06                 ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:40                   ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:56                     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-07 17:45                       ` lucio
2013-09-07 17:50                         ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:57                     ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:35         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-06 23:48 Terry Wendt

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