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From: Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult
Date: Sat,  7 Sep 2013 14:36:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJQxxw=dmehpWt-OYFOwvebXa0_mL1znK5GqteGErayq3Nsoww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFgOgC9V3rsjJ23Jf74qZv9ofQ-C13pdFTz8J+PhFRQVThxzSA@mail.gmail.com>

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I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war,
in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking
shovel.

I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit,
but said nothing.

If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace it. If you are in
australia it's easy. Contact me with the details of your import license and
I will arrange for a copy on TK50 for you. I'm not allowed to
export/sell/destroy it so I'm stuck with it. Nearly all of cmd is on the
web anyway!

And a complete rack of plan9 servers is a lot quieter, faster, and uses
lest power than my Vax.

But I digress, voting nemo Plan9 innovator of the month. Shoot me.

brucee


On 7 September 2013 14:06, Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2013/9/6 erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>:
> >> > I created it I do what I want with it.
> >>
> >> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored
> >> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix.
> >
> > who is getting grants to work on nix?
> >
> >> > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on
> >>
> >> Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been
> >> personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some
> >> of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code.
> >> This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find
> >> that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail.
> >
> > i'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging.
> >
> > but anyway, we're talking about current nix (which i take to mean
> > current 64-bit intel/amd development of any sort).
> >
> > so have you been invited to participate in private nix development?
>
> I've been invited. I'm too busy, and I feel like a dick, because I
> think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm happy that people are contributing.
>
> But I do wish that this list and the software produced by the people
> on it was more transparent. I'm sure nobody likes bitbucket or github
> here, but I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with a 9p mount of
> ongoing development. It's amazing what commented changesets do for
> software engineering in organizations (public or private) to quell
> worries about those projects.
>
> --dho
>
> > - erik
> >
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-07  4:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 22:13 Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-05 22:35 ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-06  8:49   ` Richard Miller
2013-09-06  9:52     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-06 10:24       ` hiro
2013-09-05 22:36 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-05 23:07   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06  8:27     ` Steve Simon
2013-09-06 22:59       ` BurnZeZ
2013-09-06 23:00       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-07 19:15         ` Christopher Nielsen
2013-09-06 23:10       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06 23:35       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-06 23:42         ` Nemo
2013-09-07  2:49         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07  4:06           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2013-09-07  4:36             ` Bruce Ellis [this message]
2013-09-07  6:24               ` pmarin
2013-09-07 13:21               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:28                 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:33                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:41                     ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:56                       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-07 14:32                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:52                         ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 16:28                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07 17:01                           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 17:48                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-09-07 20:46                         ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-07 23:47                           ` Matthew Veety
2013-09-08  0:19                             ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-08  7:00                               ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:58           ` Anthony Sorace
2013-09-07 15:05             ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 15:14             ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 15:46               ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:06                 ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:40                   ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:56                     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-07 17:45                       ` lucio
2013-09-07 17:50                         ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:57                     ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:35         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-06 23:48 Terry Wendt

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