Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

[pmarin <pmarin.mail@gmail.com>]

I thought all the discussion of how the development process should be
more open ended with the creation of 9front.
For me one of the best things about 9front is that I can follow all
the changes in the code by reading their mailing list.

pmarin

On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war,
> in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking
> shovel.
>
> I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but
> said nothing.
>
> If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace it. If you are in
> australia it's easy. Contact me with the details of your import license and
> I will arrange for a copy on TK50 for you. I'm not allowed to
> export/sell/destroy it so I'm stuck with it. Nearly all of cmd is on the web
> anyway!
>
> And a complete rack of plan9 servers is a lot quieter, faster, and uses lest
> power than my Vax.
>
> But I digress, voting nemo Plan9 innovator of the month. Shoot me.
>
> brucee
>
>
> On 7 September 2013 14:06, Devon H. O'Dell <devon.odell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2013/9/6 erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>:
>> >> > I created it I do what I want with it.
>> >>
>> >> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored
>> >> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix.
>> >
>> > who is getting grants to work on nix?
>> >
>> >> > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on
>> >>
>> >> Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been
>> >> personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some
>> >> of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code.
>> >> This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find
>> >> that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail.
>> >
>> > i'm not sure if you're complaining or bragging.
>> >
>> > but anyway, we're talking about current nix (which i take to mean
>> > current 64-bit intel/amd development of any sort).
>> >
>> > so have you been invited to participate in private nix development?
>>
>> I've been invited. I'm too busy, and I feel like a dick, because I
>> think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm happy that people are contributing.
>>
>> But I do wish that this list and the software produced by the people
>> on it was more transparent. I'm sure nobody likes bitbucket or github
>> here, but I'm pretty sure everyone would be happy with a 9p mount of
>> ongoing development. It's amazing what commented changesets do for
>> software engineering in organizations (public or private) to quell
>> worries about those projects.
>>
>> --dho
>>
>> > - erik
>> >
>>
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