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From: "Aram Hăvărneanu" <aram.h@mgk.ro>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult
Date: Sat,  7 Sep 2013 02:35:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEAzY3-+d5Taq4+bUW7-oUrA1by3Oj2Ma9rAxXOq+DsB3JPmkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a806fac73b7f5d77492e855f816fca4@quintile.net>

> Good grief, I write lots of code for plan9, only some of which I
> decide is successfull and well written enough to release. This is my
> choice and only mine

I don't remember you bragging about your unpublished work though.

> I created it I do what I want with it.

I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored
by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix.

> as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on

Who are you kidding. This is the norm around here. I have been
personally invited in multiple private Plan 9-related projects by some
of the few proemiment members of this community that still write code.
This has always been the norm; read 15 year old 9fans posts and find
that the same attitude (and complaints) prevail.

It's not that people want stuff to be secret, it's just that tending
a community takes effort and they don't care. They want to do the job
themselves, they want to write that paper without pesky noise from the
community interfering and when it is done they don't mind if you have
it. Sometimes you will get it, sometimes you will not. If you ask, you
will almost always get it.

Everything is developed in secret without the involvment of any
potential parties. Sure, everybody has the right to work in any way they
like (except when the work is paid by public money), but you reap what
youb sow. The lack of public interest in Plan 9 is due to this attitude.
It has plagued the project from the very beginning.

-- 
Aram Hăvărneanu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-06 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 22:13 Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-05 22:35 ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-06  8:49   ` Richard Miller
2013-09-06  9:52     ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-06 10:24       ` hiro
2013-09-05 22:36 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-05 23:07   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06  8:27     ` Steve Simon
2013-09-06 22:59       ` BurnZeZ
2013-09-06 23:00       ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2013-09-07 19:15         ` Christopher Nielsen
2013-09-06 23:10       ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-06 23:35       ` Aram Hăvărneanu [this message]
2013-09-06 23:42         ` Nemo
2013-09-07  2:49         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07  4:06           ` Devon H. O'Dell
2013-09-07  4:36             ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07  6:24               ` pmarin
2013-09-07 13:21               ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:28                 ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:33                   ` Kurt H Maier
2013-09-07 13:41                     ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 13:56                       ` Aram Hăvărneanu
2013-09-07 14:32                         ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:52                         ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 16:28                         ` erik quanstrom
2013-09-07 17:01                           ` Latchesar Ionkov
2013-09-07 17:48                         ` Gorka Guardiola
2013-09-07 20:46                         ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-07 23:47                           ` Matthew Veety
2013-09-08  0:19                             ` Charles Forsyth
2013-09-08  7:00                               ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 14:58           ` Anthony Sorace
2013-09-07 15:05             ` Bruce Ellis
2013-09-07 15:14             ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 15:46               ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:06                 ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:40                   ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:56                     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-07 17:45                       ` lucio
2013-09-07 17:50                         ` lucio
2013-09-07 16:57                     ` tlaronde
2013-09-07 16:35         ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2013-09-06 23:48 Terry Wendt

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