* [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 @ 2008-12-28 12:29 Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2008-12-28 16:12 ` Russ Cox 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2008-12-28 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs hi, is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware fusion 2.0? i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly here? is it rio? any clues? thanks dharani ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 12:29 [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2008-12-28 16:12 ` Russ Cox 2008-12-28 19:03 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Russ Cox @ 2008-12-28 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs echo hwaccel off >'#v/vgactl' ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 16:12 ` Russ Cox @ 2008-12-28 19:03 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2008-12-28 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs hi russ, this works. thanks a lot. regards dharani On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Russ Cox <rsc@swtch.com> wrote: > echo hwaccel off >'#v/vgactl' > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 12:29 [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2008-12-28 16:12 ` Russ Cox @ 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2008-12-28 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Or better yet, use drawterm to a vmware based Plan 9 stand alone CPU server. Copy/paste works, rio is responsive, and the VMWare host never needs to enter graphics mode. Don't configure the vm for multiple cpus though, that doesn't work so well (but virtualizing multiple cpus doesn't really work well in Parallels or VirtualBox either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers). Drawterm will go full screen if you like. Whatever virtualized graphics chipset VMWare is providing really does not work well w/ Plan 9. I've also found it doesn't work so well with any other OS I've tried (haven't tried Windows), so you're milage may vary. Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'd say stop trying to make Plan 9 do something it won't be able to do well on VMWare. In fact, take a quick look at VMWare's knowledge base support site as there are plenty of references to poor graphics performance even for their targeted guest OS. -jas On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: > hi, > > is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware > fusion 2.0? > > i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth > server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new > windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the > window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly > here? is it rio? > > any clues? > > thanks > dharani > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel @ 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel 2008-12-28 19:30 ` erik quanstrom 2008-12-28 19:54 ` Jeff Sickel 2008-12-28 20:06 ` lucio 2009-01-03 0:02 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Uriel @ 2008-12-28 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new > driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'm no VMWare fan and their policy for releasing documentation used to be beyond idiotic, but please lets stop spreading this nonsense about NDAs? From: http://www.vmware.com/resources/opensource/projects.html "The video driver was one of the first pieces of software ever released as open source by VMware - back in 2002" And video is quite damned fast if you disable acceleration, certainly much better than vesa on most modern video cards. As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much better alternatives.. uriel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel @ 2008-12-28 19:30 ` erik quanstrom 2008-12-28 19:54 ` Jeff Sickel 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2008-12-28 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much > better alternatives.. your comments remind me non specificly of a monty python skit with clease as the customer and idle as shopkeeper. clease: hi, i'd like a cheese, please. idle: no cheese today sir! clease: no cheese? idle: no, perhaps you'd like a fish? maybe a box of rocks? they're much better you know. clease: what? idle: we discontinued the cheese. this fish is much better. clease: are you mad? idle: so which will it be, fish or a box of rocks? .... - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel 2008-12-28 19:30 ` erik quanstrom @ 2008-12-28 19:54 ` Jeff Sickel 2008-12-28 23:01 ` Uriel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2008-12-28 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus- > callosum.com> wrote: >> Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can >> write a new >> driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, > > I'm no VMWare fan and their policy for releasing documentation used to > be beyond idiotic, but please lets stop spreading this nonsense about > NDAs? > > From: http://www.vmware.com/resources/opensource/projects.html > > "The video driver was one of the first pieces of software ever > released as open source by VMware - back in 2002" > > And video is quite damned fast if you disable acceleration, certainly > much better than vesa on most modern video cards. Not with VMware Fusion it isn't. Mostly because you get a bunch of garbage being drawn/hidden when trying to get Plan 9's video drivers working. So it's mostly useless. I've got a great idea Uriel: why don't you take that open sourced XORG video driver and get it working for Plan 9. Though if I were a betting man, I'd say you'll find that that free code from VMware won't quite do what is needed on their Fusion product--it's a different beast from their versions for Linux and Windows. > As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much > better alternatives.. I disagree. With drawterm I get copy/paste via snarf between my host OS and my Plan 9 instance running in the vm . And as a bonus, it helps distribute everything quite well: great access through /mnt/term etc. 9vx on OSX is very slow with anything that hits the native filesystem-- which ends up being almost everything I use it for: acme, sam, man, 8c, ... Inferno still has a few issues that still make it a little less than optimal for use when connecting to my Plan 9 cpu servers. Maybe once a cleaned up wm is in place so that I can do what drawterm does well: resizable window and good toggle between full screen. Until then, drawterm is still the best program to use when I want to do something on Plan 9 and I'm not sitting at a native terminal. -jas p.s. to appease erik's tendencies to get good quotes going, here's a little one from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "We'll be saying a big hello to all intelligent life forms everywhere ... and to everyone else out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 19:54 ` Jeff Sickel @ 2008-12-28 23:01 ` Uriel 2008-12-28 23:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Uriel @ 2008-12-28 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > Not with VMware Fusion it isn't. Mostly because you get a bunch of garbage > being drawn/hidden when trying to get Plan 9's video drivers working. So > it's mostly useless. In that case I don't think you can blame VMware for lack of documentation, and instead you should blame Apple for building such a lousy and pathetically documented OS. (Actually I have watched an interesting presentation by the folks that built Fusion on the wonders of how clunky and outright schizoid OS X internals are). > I've got a great idea Uriel: why don't you take that open sourced XORG video > driver and get it working for Plan 9. Though if I were a betting man, I'd > say you'll find that that free code from VMware won't quite do what is > needed on their Fusion product--it's a different beast from their versions > for Linux and Windows. I have a better idea: get a host OS that doesn't suck so much, Windows for example. >> As for drawterm, can we kill it already? 9vx and Inferno are much >> better alternatives.. > > I disagree. With drawterm I get copy/paste via snarf between my host OS and > my Plan 9 instance running in the vm . And as a bonus, it helps distribute > everything quite well: great access through /mnt/term etc. You get both features in 9vx and Inferno. > 9vx on OSX is very slow with anything that hits the native filesystem--which > ends up being almost everything I use it for: acme, sam, man, 8c, ... Got to love OSX... > Inferno still has a few issues that still make it a little less than optimal > for use when connecting to my Plan 9 cpu servers. Maybe once a cleaned up > wm is in place so that I can do what drawterm does well: resizable window > and good toggle between full screen. I certainly agree Inferno has many issues, but maybe if more people used it rather than waste resources on a dead end like drawterm things would improve. uriel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 23:01 ` Uriel @ 2008-12-28 23:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2008-12-29 0:14 ` Jeff Sickel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2008-12-28 23:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans diversity is a good strategy in nature; plan9 is not above it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 23:31 ` Skip Tavakkolian @ 2008-12-29 0:14 ` Jeff Sickel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2008-12-29 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Dec 28, 2008, at 5:31 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > diversity is a good strategy in nature; plan9 is not above it. Windows free for 15+ years and loving it. Though there are a few OS' I've used in the past that I kind of regret, the exposure to non-x86 hardware has been an overall good experience. Now onto more interesting projects w/ Plan 9 and Inferno... like turning on that little email filter I keep forgetting to do... -jas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel @ 2008-12-28 20:06 ` lucio 2008-12-28 22:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian 2009-01-03 0:02 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2008-12-28 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > but virtualizing > multiple cpus doesn't really work well in Parallels or VirtualBox > either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers I'm using both physical cpus on my ESX-based Plan 9 server. Should I be expecting erratic behaviour? ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 20:06 ` lucio @ 2008-12-28 22:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2008-12-28 22:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: lucio, 9fans >> but virtualizing >> multiple cpus doesn't really work well in Parallels or VirtualBox >> either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers > > I'm using both physical cpus on my ESX-based Plan 9 server. Should I > be expecting erratic behaviour? i've had a 4-vcpu vm running xp on a poweredge+esx (2×quad core) for over a month in operational use. in my experience esx does a good job of scheduling multiple cpu's; the vm is running 20 instances of a cpu-intensive application. http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-4960 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2008-12-28 17:06 ` Jeff Sickel 2008-12-28 18:24 ` Uriel 2008-12-28 20:06 ` lucio @ 2009-01-03 0:02 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2009-01-03 3:16 ` Uriel 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2009-01-03 0:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs hi jeff, after a couple of hiccups, i made my plan9 installation to become a cpu/auth server as well. i am also able to use graphics screen with 1280x768 resolution. the graphics screen is good enough for me so far. on the drawterm stuff, yes, i keep using it and it is pretty good. the only problem with drawterm is inferno graphics screen performance. it is really bad. you have to use it to believe it. since i use inferno/inferno-acme most of the time, i think i cant use drawterm. otherwise, drawterm is really cool. that apart, i think your suggestion is valid and good, just use VM as auth/cpu server and do the rest with drawterm. thanks dharani On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > Or better yet, use drawterm to a vmware based Plan 9 stand alone CPU server. > Copy/paste works, rio is responsive, and the VMWare host never needs to > enter graphics mode. Don't configure the vm for multiple cpus though, that > doesn't work so well (but virtualizing multiple cpus doesn't really work > well in Parallels or VirtualBox either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers). > Drawterm will go full screen if you like. > > Whatever virtualized graphics chipset VMWare is providing really does not > work well w/ Plan 9. I've also found it doesn't work so well with any other > OS I've tried (haven't tried Windows), so you're milage may vary. > > Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new > driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'd say stop > trying to make Plan 9 do something it won't be able to do well on VMWare. > In fact, take a quick look at VMWare's knowledge base support site as there > are plenty of references to poor graphics performance even for their > targeted guest OS. > > -jas > > On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: > >> hi, >> >> is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware fusion >> 2.0? >> >> i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth >> server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new >> windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the >> window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly >> here? is it rio? >> >> any clues? >> >> thanks >> dharani >> >> > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2009-01-03 0:02 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2009-01-03 3:16 ` Uriel 2009-01-03 4:37 ` lucio 2009-01-03 5:17 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Uriel @ 2009-01-03 3:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs If you use 9vx as your terminal, you can run inferno/acme locally, which might improve things a bit, although it still leaves a lot to be desired. The strange thing with drawterm+inferno is that even video playback over drawterm seems to work better than the painful redrawing of wm apps. Perhaps having inferno apps use the Plan 9 (or drawterm) draw device directly would help, but I seem to remember Charles didn't think it would make a big difference, maybe somebody should test it and see if we can track down where the slowdown comes from... uriel On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan <vdharani@gmail.com> wrote: > hi jeff, > > after a couple of hiccups, i made my plan9 installation to become a > cpu/auth server as well. i am also able to use graphics screen with > 1280x768 resolution. the graphics screen is good enough for me so far. > > on the drawterm stuff, yes, i keep using it and it is pretty good. the > only problem with drawterm is inferno graphics screen performance. it > is really bad. you have to use it to believe it. since i use > inferno/inferno-acme most of the time, i think i cant use drawterm. > otherwise, drawterm is really cool. > > that apart, i think your suggestion is valid and good, just use VM as > auth/cpu server and do the rest with drawterm. > > thanks > dharani > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: >> Or better yet, use drawterm to a vmware based Plan 9 stand alone CPU server. >> Copy/paste works, rio is responsive, and the VMWare host never needs to >> enter graphics mode. Don't configure the vm for multiple cpus though, that >> doesn't work so well (but virtualizing multiple cpus doesn't really work >> well in Parallels or VirtualBox either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers). >> Drawterm will go full screen if you like. >> >> Whatever virtualized graphics chipset VMWare is providing really does not >> work well w/ Plan 9. I've also found it doesn't work so well with any other >> OS I've tried (haven't tried Windows), so you're milage may vary. >> >> Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new >> driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'd say stop >> trying to make Plan 9 do something it won't be able to do well on VMWare. >> In fact, take a quick look at VMWare's knowledge base support site as there >> are plenty of references to poor graphics performance even for their >> targeted guest OS. >> >> -jas >> >> On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> >>> is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware fusion >>> 2.0? >>> >>> i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth >>> server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new >>> windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the >>> window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly >>> here? is it rio? >>> >>> any clues? >>> >>> thanks >>> dharani >>> >>> >> >> >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2009-01-03 3:16 ` Uriel @ 2009-01-03 4:37 ` lucio 2009-01-03 5:17 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-01-03 4:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > The strange thing with drawterm+inferno is that even video playback > over drawterm seems to work better than the painful redrawing of wm > apps. But inferno under drawterm seems superfluous to me. It can't be totally impractical to run inferno in parallel with drawterm on the same platform rather than on the Plan 9 server. There may be some disadvantages, but it must be possible to overcome them. ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2009-01-03 3:16 ` Uriel 2009-01-03 4:37 ` lucio @ 2009-01-03 5:17 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan 2009-01-03 7:33 ` lucio 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2009-01-03 5:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs hi uriel, dont know why but actually inferno graphics on 9vx is slow as well. but then, i can also run inferno natively on mac os x, right? only thing i will be missing is a single screen in which i will have both inferno and plan9. thanks dharani On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Uriel <lost.goblin@gmail.com> wrote: > If you use 9vx as your terminal, you can run inferno/acme locally, > which might improve things a bit, although it still leaves a lot to be > desired. > > The strange thing with drawterm+inferno is that even video playback > over drawterm seems to work better than the painful redrawing of wm > apps. > > Perhaps having inferno apps use the Plan 9 (or drawterm) draw device > directly would help, but I seem to remember Charles didn't think it > would make a big difference, maybe somebody should test it and see if > we can track down where the slowdown comes from... > > uriel > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan > <vdharani@gmail.com> wrote: >> hi jeff, >> >> after a couple of hiccups, i made my plan9 installation to become a >> cpu/auth server as well. i am also able to use graphics screen with >> 1280x768 resolution. the graphics screen is good enough for me so far. >> >> on the drawterm stuff, yes, i keep using it and it is pretty good. the >> only problem with drawterm is inferno graphics screen performance. it >> is really bad. you have to use it to believe it. since i use >> inferno/inferno-acme most of the time, i think i cant use drawterm. >> otherwise, drawterm is really cool. >> >> that apart, i think your suggestion is valid and good, just use VM as >> auth/cpu server and do the rest with drawterm. >> >> thanks >> dharani >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: >>> Or better yet, use drawterm to a vmware based Plan 9 stand alone CPU server. >>> Copy/paste works, rio is responsive, and the VMWare host never needs to >>> enter graphics mode. Don't configure the vm for multiple cpus though, that >>> doesn't work so well (but virtualizing multiple cpus doesn't really work >>> well in Parallels or VirtualBox either, nor on VMWare's ESX servers). >>> Drawterm will go full screen if you like. >>> >>> Whatever virtualized graphics chipset VMWare is providing really does not >>> work well w/ Plan 9. I've also found it doesn't work so well with any other >>> OS I've tried (haven't tried Windows), so you're milage may vary. >>> >>> Unless you've got some NDA from VMWare in place so that you can write a new >>> driver for Plan 9 to use whatever graphics chipset will work, I'd say stop >>> trying to make Plan 9 do something it won't be able to do well on VMWare. >>> In fact, take a quick look at VMWare's knowledge base support site as there >>> are plenty of references to poor graphics performance even for their >>> targeted guest OS. >>> >>> -jas >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan wrote: >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> is anyone able to run rio well in plan9 cpu/auth server on vmware fusion >>>> 2.0? >>>> >>>> i am able to run it in stand alone mode. but once i switch to cpu/auth >>>> server mode, i only see black screen. then i am able to open new >>>> windows, use it to some extent but things get clumsy. i dont see the >>>> window borders, etc. what is the one that is not running properly >>>> here? is it rio? >>>> >>>> any clues? >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> dharani >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] rio in cpu/auth server in vmware fusion 2.0 2009-01-03 5:17 ` Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan @ 2009-01-03 7:33 ` lucio 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: lucio @ 2009-01-03 7:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > but then, i can also run inferno natively on mac os x, right? only > thing i will be missing is a single screen in which i will have both > inferno and plan9. I don't use Inferno as much as I ought to, but whenever I have an Inferno screen open under Plan 9 I feel orphaned because my Plan 9 screen is obscured. I don't seem to have the same trouble with Windows or Unix :-) ++L ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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