* A New Year's Resolution @ 2000-01-02 6:11 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2000-01-03 18:43 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-03 18:51 ` wjhardaker 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-01-02 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw) I'm going to answer mail sent to "larsi" and "lmi" within deterministic¹ time this year. This time I really mean it. I really, really mean it. Really. This time. (200 messages from mail.misc responded to; 450 to go. I wonder whether I'm going to accidentally lean on the `d' key now. Is there any point in responding to mail that more than 4 months old? I suck.) ----- ¹) Like -- every Sunday at 23:59, there shall be no mail older than 24 hours in mail.misc. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-02 6:11 A New Year's Resolution Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-01-03 18:43 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-04 12:35 ` François Pinard 2000-01-03 18:51 ` wjhardaker 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: wjhardaker @ 2000-01-03 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> On 02 Jan 2000 07:11:24 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said: Lars> I wonder whether I'm going to accidentally lean on the `d' key Lars> now. Is there any point in responding to mail that more than 4 Lars> months old? You know, I wonder how many software package owners have similar problems (and what they do about it). My problem is that I enter a folder, and immediately hit C-M-> out of habit and only look at the last few. My mailing list for my coders mailing list (ding list equivalent) has 181 unread messages in it (which indicates messages I need to deal with). And I wonder the same thing. Is it worth the effort to respond when some of them are that old? They have certainly either solved the problem, discussion, or simply dropped it without my help at this point... Sigh... Let me know if you succeed. I tend to do the "Lars Heavy Response Wave" like you do where I hit huge mass mailing periods then enter silence again for a while. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 18:43 ` wjhardaker @ 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery ` (2 more replies) 2000-01-04 12:35 ` François Pinard 1 sibling, 3 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: William M. Perry @ 2000-01-03 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu writes: > >>>>> On 02 Jan 2000 07:11:24 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said: > > Lars> I wonder whether I'm going to accidentally lean on the `d' key > Lars> now. Is there any point in responding to mail that more than 4 > Lars> months old? > > You know, I wonder how many software package owners have similar > problems (and what they do about it). After my mother became ill, I accumulated anywhere between 600 and 750 mail messages for Emacs/W3 that were of the 'must respond to' variety, some of which were 18 months old before I finally had the time to respond to them. Worst I have right now is one from may of 1999. I try _very_ hard to respond to every message, even if it is long overdue. I tend to do this like lars in the huge batches of email-queue-induced hysteria. :) > Is it worth the effort to respond when some of them are that old? They > have certainly either solved the problem, discussion, or simply dropped > it without my help at this point... Some have, some haven't. I always play it safe and try to answer everything. I will usually fire off a quick 'im in email overload right now, but you are #9622 in line, you will be serviced eventually'. :) -bp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry @ 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-03 22:37 ` Laura Conrad 2000-01-04 8:29 ` Kai Großjohann 2000-01-04 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen 2000-01-05 19:05 ` wjhardaker 2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-03 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw) William M Perry <wmperry@aventail.com> writes: > Some have, some haven't. I always play it safe and try to answer > everything. I will usually fire off a quick 'im in email overload right > now, but you are #9622 in line, you will be serviced eventually'. :) Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get the number of ticked or unread articles in a specific newsgroup from anywhere inside Gnus (not necessarily in that particular newsgroup)? If there is, I could write a quick little function to respond to a message with something like "I've received your e-mail, and this is a semi-automated response. Please be patient... I have 253 pending mail messages to respond to, but I promise I'll get to yours as soon as I can." -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-03 22:37 ` Laura Conrad 2000-01-03 23:25 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-03 23:26 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-04 8:29 ` Kai Großjohann 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Laura Conrad @ 2000-01-03 22:37 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: Russ> Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get Russ> the number of ticked or unread articles in a specific Russ> newsgroup from anywhere inside Gnus (not necessarily in that Russ> particular newsgroup)? If there is, I could write a quick Russ> little function to respond to a message with something like Russ> "I've received your e-mail, and this is a semi-automated Russ> response. Please be patient... I have 253 pending mail Russ> messages to respond to, but I promise I'll get to yours as Russ> soon as I can." For that application, does it matter if the count is correct? -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 22:37 ` Laura Conrad @ 2000-01-03 23:25 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-03 23:28 ` Laura Conrad 2000-01-03 23:26 ` Russ Allbery 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: William M. Perry @ 2000-01-03 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Laura Conrad <lconrad@gamesville.com> writes: > >>>>> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > > > Russ> Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get > Russ> the number of ticked or unread articles in a specific > Russ> newsgroup from anywhere inside Gnus (not necessarily in that > Russ> particular newsgroup)? If there is, I could write a quick > Russ> little function to respond to a message with something like > Russ> "I've received your e-mail, and this is a semi-automated > Russ> response. Please be patient... I have 253 pending mail > Russ> messages to respond to, but I promise I'll get to yours as > Russ> soon as I can." > > For that application, does it matter if the count is correct? (random 500)? -bp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 23:25 ` William M. Perry @ 2000-01-03 23:28 ` Laura Conrad 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Laura Conrad @ 2000-01-03 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "bp" == William M Perry <wmperry@aventail.com> writes: bp> Laura Conrad <lconrad@gamesville.com> writes: >> >>>>> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: >> >> Russ> Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get Russ> the number of ticked or unread articles in a specific Russ> newsgroup from anywhere inside Gnus (not necessarily in that Russ> particular newsgroup)? If there is, I could write a quick Russ> little function to respond to a message with something like Russ> "I've received your e-mail, and this is a semi-automated Russ> response. Please be patient... I have 253 pending mail Russ> messages to respond to, but I promise I'll get to yours as Russ> soon as I can." >> >> For that application, does it matter if the count is correct? bp> (random 500)? (random 500) + 300 You don't want "I have 3 pending mail messages to respond to..." Or worse "I have 1 pending mail messages to respond to..." -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 22:37 ` Laura Conrad 2000-01-03 23:25 ` William M. Perry @ 2000-01-03 23:26 ` Russ Allbery 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-03 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw) Laura Conrad <lconrad@gamesville.com> writes: >>>>>> "Russ" == Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > Russ> Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get the > Russ> number of ticked or unread articles in a specific newsgroup > Russ> from anywhere inside Gnus (not necessarily in that particular > Russ> newsgroup)? If there is, I could write a quick little > Russ> function to respond to a message with something like "I've > Russ> received your e-mail, and this is a semi-automated response. > Russ> Please be patient... I have 253 pending mail messages to > Russ> respond to, but I promise I'll get to yours as soon as I can." > For that application, does it matter if the count is correct? Well, no, but it would be kind of cool. :) -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-03 22:37 ` Laura Conrad @ 2000-01-04 8:29 ` Kai Großjohann 2000-01-04 9:22 ` Russ Allbery 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-01-04 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > Hm... speaking of this, is there a good way in Gnus to get the number of > ticked or unread articles in a specific newsgroup from anywhere inside > Gnus (not necessarily in that particular newsgroup)? Well, you want a GNUS function to get, for a GROUP, the number of UNREAD messages. Well? \f You were right: gnus-group-unread kai -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 8:29 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2000-01-04 9:22 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-04 11:11 ` Kai Großjohann 2000-01-04 12:02 ` Simon Josefsson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-04 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw) Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes: > Well, you want a GNUS function to get, for a GROUP, the number of UNREAD > messages. Well? What about ticked? :) (The way I handle mail, unread isn't as useful, although I realize I did mention it.) I did poke around some for a function to return the number of ticked articles, but quickly got out of my depth in LISP. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 9:22 ` Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-04 11:11 ` Kai Großjohann 2000-01-04 14:56 ` Henrik Holm 2000-01-04 12:02 ` Simon Josefsson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2000-01-04 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > What about ticked? :) I think you need to look at up in gnus-newsrc-alist. I couldn't find a function for extracting this number off-hand, but I think gnus-range-length might be useful, here. kai -- A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 11:11 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2000-01-04 14:56 ` Henrik Holm 2000-01-04 14:59 ` Henrik Holm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Henrik Holm @ 2000-01-04 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Russ Allbery, ding [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 359 bytes --] [Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)] > kai > -- > A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with. I like your signature... is it yours originally? Do you mind if I use it? -- Henrik Holm, Research fellow --- Dept. of Telecommunications, NTNU mailto:Henrik.Holm@tele.ntnu.no - http://www.tele.ntnu.no/users/henrik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 14:56 ` Henrik Holm @ 2000-01-04 14:59 ` Henrik Holm 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Henrik Holm @ 2000-01-04 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 558 bytes --] [Henrik Holm <henrikh@tele.ntnu.no>] > [Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann)] > > > kai > > -- > > A preposition is not a good thing to end a sentence with. > > I like your signature... is it yours originally? > > Do you mind if I use it? Ooops, sorry, this wasn't intended for the ding list. Please disregard! Frustrated: How to cancel a message to a mailing list? :) -- Henrik Holm, Research fellow --- Dept. of Telecommunications, NTNU mailto:Henrik.Holm@tele.ntnu.no - http://www.tele.ntnu.no/users/henrik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 9:22 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-04 11:11 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2000-01-04 12:02 ` Simon Josefsson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Simon Josefsson @ 2000-01-04 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > > Well, you want a GNUS function to get, for a GROUP, the number of UNREAD > > messages. Well? > > What about ticked? :) Try (gnus-range-length (cdr (assq 'tick (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info group))))) Also, gnus-group-line-format* contain similar calculations to display this number to you (so it's not only sent to the people bugging you :-)). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery @ 2000-01-04 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen 2000-04-21 14:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2000-01-05 19:05 ` wjhardaker 2 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 2000-01-04 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw) wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) writes: > I try _very_ hard to respond to every message, even if it is long overdue. Bad habit, that just encourage them to send more. However, if you *have* to answer, at least try to be unhelpful. "I don't know, try asking on the mailing list." "It works for me." "I agree, that is a bug." "No, I can't think of a workaround that doesn't involve hacking the Lisp code." It works for me. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 2000-04-21 14:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2000-04-21 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > > I try _very_ hard to respond to every message, even if it is long overdue. > > Bad habit, that just encourage them to send more. > > However, if you *have* to answer, at least try to be unhelpful. "I > don't know, try asking on the mailing list." "It works for me." "I > agree, that is a bug." "No, I can't think of a workaround that > doesn't involve hacking the Lisp code." *ROTFL* -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry 2000-01-03 22:31 ` Russ Allbery 2000-01-04 14:26 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 2000-01-05 19:05 ` wjhardaker 2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: wjhardaker @ 2000-01-05 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: wjhardaker, ding >>>>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:34:31 -0500, wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) said: >> Is it worth the effort to respond when some of them are that old? >> They have certainly either solved the problem, discussion, or >> simply dropped it without my help at this point... William> Some have, some haven't. I always play it safe and try to William> answer everything. I will usually fire off a quick 'im in William> email overload right now, but you are #9622 in line, you will William> be serviced eventually'. :) Yeah, and hence the reason I have so many messages in my mail folders... Those times when I was away. Or busy. Or writing code. One other suggestion that hasn't been mentioned yet: create a mailing list. My snmp package has 2 important ones. One for users, and one for coders. Then I deleted all references to my personal email address out of the documentation and left only the reference to the coders list, saying "write there with questions and someone will help you". The idea was that if more people wrote the mailing list they would cross-help each other more. It sort of worked. The 209 people on the coders list occasionally help the people that write in. Ok, about 5 of the 209 actually do. But the good news is that they answered about 25% of the messages, leaving me with less of a load. That percentage has grown lately and is probably near 50%. Actually, giving write access to the CVS repository is what made the second jump in number. Involve them more and they will help more! But you're right, I think always answering is the polite way to go... -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 18:43 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-03 19:34 ` William M. Perry @ 2000-01-04 12:35 ` François Pinard 2000-01-04 14:53 ` luis fernandes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: François Pinard @ 2000-01-04 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu writes: > Lars> Is there any point in responding to mail that more than 4 months old? Hmph! 4 months is really nothing... :-) :-( When I got `tar' maintenance (which I do not have anymore :-), `tar' maintenance has already been put on hold for quite a long while. I received with it a huge backlog of accumulated problems, thousands of them. I read in all these reports a lot of frustration from users having had the impression of writing into a black hole. So, I made a point to reply to every message while I was processing it, _however_ old it was. Then, John Gilmore, the original `tar' author, sent me his own collection of accumulated messages, which was another big lot, and generally much older. I merged everything. I surely solved many thousands of messages, and just to keep the rope tight, also received thousands of new messages. Many single messages did require a great deal of work. `tar' is by far the most demanding package I ever took care of, if you consider all the overhead it takes to do a proper job. It was impossible for anyone-not-being-Lars to reply timely to everything. Yet, when one installs a patch in 1998 for a problem first reported in 1989, one feels strange while acknowledging the contribution to the submitter! :-) Even then, my opinion is that we should never dismiss a user report, and that even if some problems solve "themselves" over time, some just do not. P.S. - My main hope is that `tar' is much more _maintainable_ now that it originally was, the job should be more pleasurable to the new maintainer. -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 12:35 ` François Pinard @ 2000-01-04 14:53 ` luis fernandes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: luis fernandes @ 2000-01-04 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) The oldest unresponded message I have in my inbox is Gnus-related personal correspondence regarding the herd of gnus for the chapters of the Gnus manual. I'm posting it here for the record, because I'm going to delete it without answering (I'm sorry, Lars): ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> To: luis fernandes <elf@ee.ryerson.ca> Subject: Re: Dix gnus Date: 19 Apr 1997 15:38:12 +0200 luis fernandes <elf@ee.ryerson.ca> writes: > These are all unique, hand-drawn, non-cloned (for the chapter head pages)... Great; I'll fix the manual to use this as a basis. Uhm... could you possibly scan it at higher resolution? The higher, the better. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some weeks ago, someone wanted an explanation regarding the design of the gnus logo. I believe I did post a "Secrets of the Gnus Logo Revealed!" explanation to this list some time ago. Also regading the logo I also wanted to share this apropos quote I found in the New York Sunday Times Magazine (the one with Robin Williams on the cover and the Times time capsule in the background (hmmm....what would we put in the Gnus time capsule)): "Artists are people driven by a conflict between the desire to communicate and the even stronger desire to hide." --D. W. Winnicott ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-02 6:11 A New Year's Resolution Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2000-01-03 18:43 ` wjhardaker @ 2000-01-03 18:51 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-04 5:48 ` Amos Gouaux 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: wjhardaker @ 2000-01-03 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> On 02 Jan 2000 07:11:24 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said: Lars> (200 messages from mail.misc responded to; 450 to go. I wonder Lars> whether I'm going to accidentally lean on the `d' key now. Is there Lars> any point in responding to mail that more than 4 months old? I suck.) On another point, I decided about a month ago that email is going to be the downfall of modern society. Basically, we now have the ability to communicate so easily now that we respond, they ask something else, we respond (meanwhile writing a 3rd party with a question), they ask something else, the 3rd party responds, you respond to both of them involving a 4th and 5th subject in the discussions, and it snowballs from there. Back in the good old days, when letters had to be carried by ship in order to reach you this wasn't a problem and you got to spend all of your time solving your own problems and producing things rather than communicating with the people you're now reliant on and those that rely on you. However, when voice communications over the internet become better I suspect things will improve, for as I see it half of the problem is the lack of interactivity where someone can interrupt you as they could in a normal conversation to make sure you are talking about what they truly want to know. Warning: if you respond to this note, expect a corresponding loss of true productivity in your day. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-03 18:51 ` wjhardaker @ 2000-01-04 5:48 ` Amos Gouaux 2000-01-05 18:59 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-10 5:58 ` Matt Simmons 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Amos Gouaux @ 2000-01-04 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> On 03 Jan 2000 10:51:36 -0800, >>>>> wjhardaker <wjhardaker@ucdavis.edu> (w) writes: w> However, when voice communications over the internet become better I w> suspect things will improve.... Then there'll be voice mail. Hmm... what's that light flashing? Why won't it stop? Amos ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 5:48 ` Amos Gouaux @ 2000-01-05 18:59 ` wjhardaker 2000-01-10 5:58 ` Matt Simmons 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: wjhardaker @ 2000-01-05 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> On 03 Jan 2000 23:48:15 -0600, Amos Gouaux <amos+lists.ding@utdallas.edu> said: w> However, when voice communications over the internet become better I w> suspect things will improve.... Amos> Then there'll be voice mail. no, answering machines are equally as evil. If I don't answer, call back another time. The answering machine is another example of a disjointed conversations that basically work like email. You can't interrupt or interact. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: A New Year's Resolution 2000-01-04 5:48 ` Amos Gouaux 2000-01-05 18:59 ` wjhardaker @ 2000-01-10 5:58 ` Matt Simmons 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Matt Simmons @ 2000-01-10 5:58 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Amos" == Amos Gouaux <amos+lists.ding@utdallas.edu> writes: Amos> Then there'll be voice mail. Amos> Hmm... what's that light flashing? Why won't it stop? Where am I going? And why am I in a handbasket? -- Matt Simmons - simmonmt@acm.org - http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt "Ain't nothin' in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos." - Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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