* Making notes in a newsgroup @ 1998-10-01 19:16 Hallvard B Furuseth 1998-10-01 19:38 ` Harry Putnam 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-01 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Sometimes I wish to make some notes to myself on or next to an article. Does Gnus support this? Maybe cache the article and edit the cache copy? And/or create a fake followup from myself in the cache? The latter might also be useful so I can type part of a followup-to-be and have it visible in the newsgroup and thread, instead of the drafts folder. Or maybe the newsgroup cache would *be* the drafts folder for that group? -- Hallvard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-01 19:16 Making notes in a newsgroup Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-01 19:38 ` Harry Putnam 1998-10-08 7:25 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Harry Putnam @ 1998-10-01 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes: > Sometimes I wish to make some notes to myself on or next to an article. > Does Gnus support this? Maybe cache the article and edit the cache > copy? And/or create a fake followup from myself in the cache? The > latter might also be useful so I can type part of a followup-to-be and > have it visible in the newsgroup and thread, instead of the drafts folder. > Or maybe the newsgroup cache would *be* the drafts folder for that group? Having studied on this some, I don't believe gnus supports allowing edited posts in the newsgroup itself. However any Newsgroup post can be edited just like a mail message if you prefix the 'e' (edit) command with C-u . Then you can edit but not save it back to the group in NNTP groups. Must save it somewhere else. I have some code worked out that makes it fairly handy to do. (lots of help form Kai G) Although its rough spots are thoroughly my doing. If you want this sent privately. I will. Or even post it here as it is fairly brief. But not smooth and professionsal. -- Harry Putnam reader@newsguy.com Running Redhat Linux-5.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-01 19:38 ` Harry Putnam @ 1998-10-08 7:25 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 1998-10-08 15:53 ` Harry Putnam 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-08 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: > If you want this sent privately. I will. Or even post it here as it > is fairly brief. But not smooth and professionsal. Yes, I'd likt to see it! -- Hallvard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-08 7:25 ` Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-08 15:53 ` Harry Putnam 1998-10-08 18:17 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Harry Putnam @ 1998-10-08 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes: > Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: > > If you want this sent privately. I will. Or even post it here as it > > is fairly brief. But not smooth and professionsal. > > Yes, I'd likt to see it! [Posting here hoping to get some comments on better ways to do this, or if something similar might be incorporated into gnus] This setup allows you to use any editing mode (gnus-article-edit) or (message-mode) Assuming the use of `Message'. To edit an article and send it to the (`nnml' in this case) group of your choice, allowing completion to find the group. This is *not* exactly what you were after. To have edited articles stored in newgroups. But does smooth the handling of edited posts a bit. All works OK but you must kill the editing buffer once the edited message is sent where you want it to go. It would be nice if that happened automatically, but I've gotten used to it as is so have been to lazy to figure that out. If you invoke this function while in Reply or Followup, since the operation that invoked an editing mode is not completed you may need to add certain info, if you want it in the edited version, such as Date. Whatever editing mode you chose, as long as the edits are not saved with `C-c C-c' then the original The best use is `gnus-article-edit-mode' (e) which can be invoked in a newsgroup by `C-u e' (thanks Lars) One reason to use Reply or Followup, even `S 0 m' (`gnus-summary-mail-forward') is that you can process mark a number of interesting articles show them all in one buffer and edit as you like. Then invoke the `hp-insert-into-group' funtion to send it where you want. To be reviewed, studied etc. later as an anthology or with `C-d' ( as a digest) One possible use of this is to have a group or several groups where edited messages are sent with some kind of identifying code in the subject line so as to be able to sort on subject, and have a handy source of information on various subjects, easily sorted, viewed, searched and etc. ( combined with the new powers of nnir even a more handy and accessable reference resource) Thanks due to Kai and Lars Comments, bad, good or indifferent solicited.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;defines funtion to allow sending edited messages to group of choice (defun hp-insert-into-group (name) "Lars code (modified hp with help from Kai G.) to send messages from editing modes to gnus group directly. Prompting for group name and method" (interactive (list (gnus-request-accept-article (gnus-read-move-group-name " save" nil nil nil))))) ;defines keyboard control sequence for and hook for`message-mode' (defun hp-message-mode-hook () "Defines kbd C-x a to execute 'hp-insert-into-group'" (define-key message-mode-map (kbd "C-x a") 'hp-insert-into-group)) (add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'hp-message-mode-hook) ;defines keyboard control sequence and hook for `gnus-article-edit-mode' (defun hp-gnus-article-edit-mode-hook () "Defines kbd C-x a to execute 'hp-insert-into-group'" (define-key gnus-article-edit-mode-map (kbd "C-x a") 'hp-insert-into-group)) (add-hook 'gnus-article-edit-mode-hook 'hp-gnus-article-edit-mode-hook) -- Harry Putnam reader@newsguy.com Running Redhat Linux-5.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-08 15:53 ` Harry Putnam @ 1998-10-08 18:17 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 1998-10-10 22:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-08 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes: > This is *not* exactly what you were after. To have edited articles > stored in newgroups. But does smooth the handling of edited posts a > bit. Oh. Then I'll grab it if I some day implement "editing articles in groups" first. Hey - I've got an idea: I'll invoke the bugfixing boys and girls. "Lars - there is a bug in gnus: If I cache e.g. an nnml article and then edit the article, the cache copy is not updated." Heh heh heh. Er - why would anyone but me want to cache an nnml article? -- Hallvard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-08 18:17 ` Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-10 22:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-10-11 3:43 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-10 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes: > "Lars - there is a bug in gnus: If I cache e.g. an nnml article and then > edit the article, the cache copy is not updated." Hm. That's supposed to happen, from what I can glean from the code. (`gnus-article-edit-exit'). Do the cached articles never get updated on `C-c C-c' from the edited article buffer? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-10 22:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-11 3:43 ` Hallvard B Furuseth 1998-10-11 15:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-11 3:43 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: >> "Lars - there is a bug in gnus: If I cache e.g. an nnml article and then >> edit the article, the cache copy is not updated." > > Hm. That's supposed to happen, from what I can glean from the code. > (`gnus-article-edit-exit'). Do the cached articles never get updated > on `C-c C-c' from the edited article buffer? Checking... Ah! The cache file is rewritten - but with the original contents. Happens both in gnus 5.6.44 and pgnus 0.34. Also, the `*' in front of an article in *Summary* disappears when I do `C-c C-c' after editing - even though the article is still cached, and the `*' comes back if I do gnus-summary-rescan-group. .gnus.el: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "private"))) (setq gnus-use-cache 'passive) -- Hallvard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Making notes in a newsgroup 1998-10-11 3:43 ` Hallvard B Furuseth @ 1998-10-11 15:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-10-11 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallvard B Furuseth <h.b.furuseth@usit.uio.no> writes: > Checking... Ah! The cache file is rewritten - but with the original > contents. Happens both in gnus 5.6.44 and pgnus 0.34. So it does. I've now move the cache things to after Gnus has handled the update, which should probably fix this. > Also, the `*' in front of an article in *Summary* disappears when I do > `C-c C-c' after editing - even though the article is still cached, and > the `*' comes back if I do gnus-summary-rescan-group. Hm. This doesn't happen to me (at least not after making the change described above). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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