Re: [***SPAM***] quotationmarks just before new line

Re: [***SPAM***] quotationmarks just before new line

[d_jan]

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> Hello,
>
> It frequently happens to me that a new line in an output-document starts just after a quotation mark. So I encounter lines in my ConTeX-created .pdf like:
>
> "And the prince of Denmark spoke: '
> ?how weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of this world!' "
>
> Its hard to say how often this happens but I'd say its roughly every 50 quotations.
>
> A minimal example to see the problem in action: (also onhttp://pastebin.com/cEMiGZju)
>
> \mainlanguage [de]
> \setuppapersize[A4]
>
> \setuplayout[width=6cm]
>
> \setupquotation
> [1]
> [left=", right="]
>
> \setupquote
> [1]
> [left=", right="]
>
> \starttext
>
> \language[de]
> Bereiche der\quotation{waren transparent, so dass} man auf. \quotation{die darunterliegenden} Grafiken sehen konnte. \quotation{Die Paletten konnten mit der} nicht-dominanten \quotation{Hand bewegt werden} %gibberish content
>
> \stoptext
>
> I'm using LiveTex 2011/LuaTex typeset but the problem can be reproduced using the example code athttp://live.contextgarden.net/  and the "XeTeX"-Setting.
>
> Is there any fix to this problem?
>> You have to add \nobreak between the quotation mark and the text, e.g.
>>
>>    \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][1][left=?\nobreak]
>>
>> but I can give you better answer when you tell use why do you want to change
>> the delimiters as shown above because ? and ? are the default symbols for german
>> when you use \quotation.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
Hello,
Thanks! That did the job as far as I can see.
I did set the Quotation Marks manually since I considered to change them 
to Guillemets (?» «) later.

Regards,
  Jan

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Re: quotationmarks just before new line

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 03.07.2012 um 15:03 schrieb d_jan:

> Hello,
> Thanks! That did the job as far as I can see. 
> I did set the Quotation Marks manually since I considered to change them to Guillemets (» «) later.

When you want to change the quotation marks it’s better to change them with \setuplanguage
and set the right sign for the current level with \symbol[…quotation] and \symbol[…quote].

\setuplanguage
  [de]
  [ leftquotation=»,
   rightquotation=«,
        leftquote=›,
       rightquote=‹]

\mainlanguage[de]

\starttext

text \quotation{text} text \quote{text} text

text \quotation{text \quote{text} text} text

text \quotation{text \quotation{text} text} text

\setupdelimitedtext[quotation:1][left={\symbol[leftquotation]},right={\symbol[rightquotation]}]
\setupdelimitedtext[quotation:2][left={\symbol[leftquote]},    right={\symbol[rightquote]}]

text \quotation{text \quotation{text} text} text

\stoptext

BTW: There is a change in the way how to set the values for a certain delimited text level in MkIV as shown above.

Wolfgang

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Re: [***SPAM***] quotationmarks just before new line

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 30.06.2012 um 00:14 schrieb d_jan:

> Hello,
> 
> It frequently happens to me that a new line in an output-document starts just after a quotation mark. So I encounter lines in my ConTeX-created .pdf like:
> 
> "And the prince of Denmark spoke: '
> how weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of this world!' "
> 
> Its hard to say how often this happens but I'd say its roughly every 50 quotations.
> 
> A minimal example to see the problem in action: (also on http://pastebin.com/cEMiGZju)
> 
> \mainlanguage [de]
> \setuppapersize[A4]
> 
> \setuplayout[width=6cm]
> 
> \setupquotation
> [1]
> [left=„, right=“]
> 
> \setupquote
> [1]
> [left=„, right=“]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \language[de]
> Bereiche der\quotation{waren transparent, so dass} man auf. \quotation{die darunterliegenden} Grafiken sehen konnte. \quotation{Die Paletten konnten mit der} nicht-dominanten \quotation{Hand bewegt werden} %gibberish content
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> I'm using LiveTex 2011/LuaTex typeset but the problem can be reproduced using the example code at http://live.contextgarden.net/ and the "XeTeX"-Setting.
> 
> Is there any fix to this problem?

You have to add \nobreak between the quotation mark and the text, e.g.

  \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][1][left=„\nobreak]

but I can give you better answer when you tell use why do you want to change
the delimiters as shown above because „ and “ are the default symbols for german
when you use \quotation.

Wolfgang
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[***SPAM***] quotationmarks just before new line

[d_jan]

Hello,

It frequently happens to me that a new line in an output-document starts 
just after a quotation mark. So I encounter lines in my ConTeX-created 
.pdf like:

"And the prince of Denmark spoke: '
how weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of 
this world!' "

Its hard to say how often this happens but I'd say its roughly every 50 
quotations.

A minimal example to see the problem in action: (also on 
http://pastebin.com/cEMiGZju)

\mainlanguage [de]
\setuppapersize[A4]

\setuplayout[width=6cm]

\setupquotation
[1]
[left=„, right=“]

\setupquote
[1]
[left=„, right=“]

\starttext

\language[de]
Bereiche der\quotation{waren transparent, so dass} man auf. 
\quotation{die darunterliegenden} Grafiken sehen konnte. \quotation{Die 
Paletten konnten mit der} nicht-dominanten \quotation{Hand bewegt 
werden} %gibberish content

\stoptext

I'm using LiveTex 2011/LuaTex typeset but the problem can be reproduced 
using the example code at http://live.contextgarden.net/ and the 
"XeTeX"-Setting.

Is there any fix to this problem?

Kind Regards,
Jan

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