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* Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
@ 2021-08-07 19:53 Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-08-07 20:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
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From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-08-07 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,

It is a common practice to use short forms of titles for bibliographic
entries after they are cited the first time. Another practice is to use
abbreviations for journal names and book series (generally for citations in
the text, but possibly also in the references list), with a separate "List
of Abbreviations" provided to cross-reference the abbreviations and full
names. I think that these practices could be accommodated with multiple
bibliographies that contain short and long forms for corresponding entries,
but I wanted to ask: is there a simpler or preferred way to do this in
ConTeXt?

To illustrate what I mean, the biblatex-sbl package (
https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl), which implements the SBL
citation style for (Xe)LaTeX, handles this using additional fields like
"shorttitle," "shortjournal," and "shortseries," so for the BibTeX-style
bibliographic entry

@book{Blau2010,
    author = {Joshua Blau},
    title = {Phonology and Morphology of Biblical Hebrew},
    shorttitle = {Phonology},
    series = {Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic},
    shortseries = {LSAWS},
    volume = {2},
    location = {Winona Lake, IN},
    publisher = {Eisenbrauns},
    year = {2010}
}

the initial in-text citation (in SBL style) would look something like

Joshua Blau, *Phonology and Morphology of Biblical Hebrew*, LSAWS 2 (Winona
Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 2010),

while subsequent in-text citations would look like

Blau, *Phonology*.

A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
"Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other
journal/series abbreviations).

Thank you!

Joey

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-08-07 19:53 Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-08-07 20:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
  2021-08-09  8:12   ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
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> Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>:
> 
> A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside "Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/series abbreviations).

Regarding abbreviations have a look at https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms

It should be as easy as

\abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}

The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.

\placelistofabbreviations


I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the full name should appear in the index.
I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help you.


Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.

Hraban
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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-08-07 20:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
@ 2021-08-09  8:12   ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
  2021-08-09 12:55     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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From: Denis Maier via ntg-context @ 2021-08-09  8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context; +Cc: denis.maier



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
> Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
> 
> 
> 
> > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
> context@ntg.nl>:
> >
> > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside "Linguistic
> Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/series
> abbreviations).
> 
> Regarding abbreviations have a look at
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
> 
> It should be as easy as
> 
> \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
> 
> The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
> 
> \placelistofabbreviations
> 
> 
> I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the full name
> should appear in the index.
> I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help you.
> 
> 
> Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.

SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of this though.

Denis

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-08-09  8:12   ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
@ 2021-08-09 12:55     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-08-22 22:11       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that issue. I
could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal" fields and set
up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or environment.

As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook of
Style*, 2nd edition, available at
https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
.

Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations by
default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such as
"authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.

For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book, @article,
@inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on getting those
right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly take help. (But
it would probably be better to discuss the details in a separate e-mail
thread.)

Joey

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
> >
> >
> >
> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
> > context@ntg.nl>:
> > >
> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
> "Linguistic
> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/series
> > abbreviations).
> >
> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
> >
> > It should be as easy as
> >
> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
> >
> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
> >
> > \placelistofabbreviations
> >
> >
> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the
> full name
> > should appear in the index.
> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help you.
> >
> >
> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>
> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
> this though.
>
> Denis
>
> >
> > Hraban
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > ___________________
> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to the Wiki!
> >
> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
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> archive  :
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> > ___________________
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
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>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-08-09 12:55     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-08-22 22:11       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-06 16:35         ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the ConTeXt
Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are defined
in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:

\startsetups btx:cite:listelement
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
    \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
        \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
    \else
       \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
           \btxcitereference
           \currentbtxfirst
       }
    \fi
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
\stopsetups

\startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
    \btxhandleciteentry
    \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
\stopsetups

\startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
    \startfootnote
        \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
    \stopfootnote
\stopsetups

Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
\s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
citation in a footnote.

But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used outside of
publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used. Meanwhile,
the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked in these
setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:

\unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
  {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
   \else
     \dontleavehmode
     \iftrialtypesetting \else
       \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
         % can be made empty when combining author / year
       \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
         \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
         \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
       \fi\fi
     \fi
  \fi}

...

\let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject

...

\unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
  {\dontleavehmode
   \begingroup
   \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
   \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs checking
   \btxcitereference
   \btx_entry_inject
   \endgroup}

My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still not
sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
differently than citations in the list.

Joey

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that issue. I
> could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal" fields and set
> up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or environment.
>
> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook of
> Style*, 2nd edition, available at
> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
> .
>
> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations by
> default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such as
> "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>
> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
> separate e-mail thread.)
>
> Joey
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>> > >
>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
>> "Linguistic
>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/series
>> > abbreviations).
>> >
>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>> >
>> > It should be as easy as
>> >
>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>> >
>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>> >
>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>> >
>> >
>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the
>> full name
>> > should appear in the index.
>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help you.
>> >
>> >
>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>
>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>> this though.
>>
>> Denis
>>
>> >
>> > Hraban
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> > ___________________
>> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>> to the Wiki!
>> >
>> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>> archive  :
>> > https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> > ___________________
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
>> the Wiki!
>>
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-08-22 22:11       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-06 16:35         ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-06 18:35           ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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(Quick note for anyone following this thread: I've figured out how to
implement different typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form
citations; you can see how I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in
the https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)

I have another question related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection
with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and
I cite it using \cite[alternative=short], I would like to add its shorthand
to the abbreviations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My
first thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the
following:

```
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
  ...
  \btxdoif {shorthand} {
    \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
  }
  ...
\stopsetups
```

But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=all"
option, nothing appears in the list.

In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which way to
type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that in this
case, I have to use a macro even in the first input to \abbreviation (in
brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance. In addition, if the
second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly braces) are not expanded
until the list is printed, then they will be empty/undefined at the time
when they are needed.

I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I could
use someone's expertise here. Is there a simple way to define an
abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a
way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction?
(Something like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)

Thanks!

Joey

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the ConTeXt
> Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are defined
> in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
>
> \startsetups btx:cite:listelement
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>     \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
>         \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
>     \else
>        \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
>            \btxcitereference
>            \currentbtxfirst
>        }
>     \fi
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>     \btxhandleciteentry
>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
> \stopsetups
>
> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
>     \startfootnote
>         \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
>     \stopfootnote
> \stopsetups
>
> Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
> \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
> the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
> document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
> third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
> citation in a footnote.
>
> But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used outside of
> publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used. Meanwhile,
> the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked in these
> setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:
>
> \unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
>   {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>    \else
>      \dontleavehmode
>      \iftrialtypesetting \else
>        \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
>          % can be made empty when combining author / year
>        \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
>          \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
>          \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>        \fi\fi
>      \fi
>   \fi}
>
> ...
>
> \let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject
>
> ...
>
> \unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
>   {\dontleavehmode
>    \begingroup
>    \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
>    \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs checking
>    \btxcitereference
>    \btx_entry_inject
>    \endgroup}
>
> My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still not
> sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
> differently than citations in the list.
>
> Joey
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that issue. I
>> could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal" fields and set
>> up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or environment.
>>
>> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
>> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
>> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
>> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
>> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook of
>> Style*, 2nd edition, available at
>> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
>> .
>>
>> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations by
>> default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such as
>> "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
>> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
>> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
>> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
>> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
>> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
>> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
>> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
>> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>>
>> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
>> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
>> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
>> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
>> separate e-mail thread.)
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
>> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
>>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in
>>> bibliography
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
>>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>>> > >
>>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
>>> "Linguistic
>>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other journal/series
>>> > abbreviations).
>>> >
>>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>>> >
>>> > It should be as easy as
>>> >
>>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>>> >
>>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>>> >
>>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the
>>> full name
>>> > should appear in the index.
>>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help
>>> you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>>
>>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>>> this though.
>>>
>>> Denis
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hraban
>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>> > ___________________
>>> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>>> to the Wiki!
>>> >
>>> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>> archive  :
>>> > https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>> > ___________________
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>>> to the Wiki!
>>>
>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-06 16:35         ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-06 18:35           ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-06 19:05             ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-10-06 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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All right, I think I see what I did wrong; I just needed to enclose the
whole \abbreviation command in an \expanded command as follows:

```
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
  ...
  \btxdoif {shorthand} {

\expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}}
  }
  ...
\stopsetups
```

It looks like passing the macro \currentbtxtag as the tag for the
abbreviation works fine. And if I redefine the abbreviations synonyms list
as follows, I can use \inshort[\currentbtxtag]:

```
\definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull][\inshort]
```

I'll add more to the thread if I run into any problems making this more
complex!

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> (Quick note for anyone following this thread: I've figured out how to
> implement different typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form
> citations; you can see how I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in
> the https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)
>
> I have another question related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection
> with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and
> I cite it using \cite[alternative=short], I would like to add its shorthand
> to the abbreviations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My
> first thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the
> following:
>
> ```
> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>   ...
>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>     \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
>   }
>   ...
> \stopsetups
> ```
>
> But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=all"
> option, nothing appears in the list.
>
> In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which way
> to type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that in
> this case, I have to use a macro even in the first input to \abbreviation
> (in brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance. In addition, if
> the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly braces) are not
> expanded until the list is printed, then they will be empty/undefined at
> the time when they are needed.
>
> I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I could
> use someone's expertise here. Is there a simple way to define an
> abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a
> way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction?
> (Something like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joey
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the ConTeXt
>> Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are defined
>> in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
>>
>> \startsetups btx:cite:listelement
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>     \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
>>         \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
>>     \else
>>        \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
>>            \btxcitereference
>>            \currentbtxfirst
>>        }
>>     \fi
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>     \btxhandleciteentry
>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
>>     \startfootnote
>>         \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
>>     \stopfootnote
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
>> \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
>> the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
>> document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
>> third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
>> citation in a footnote.
>>
>> But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used outside
>> of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used.
>> Meanwhile, the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked
>> in these setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>   {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>    \else
>>      \dontleavehmode
>>      \iftrialtypesetting \else
>>        \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
>>          % can be made empty when combining author / year
>>        \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
>>          \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
>>          \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>        \fi\fi
>>      \fi
>>   \fi}
>>
>> ...
>>
>> \let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>
>> ...
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
>>   {\dontleavehmode
>>    \begingroup
>>    \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
>>    \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs checking
>>    \btxcitereference
>>    \btx_entry_inject
>>    \endgroup}
>>
>> My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still
>> not sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
>> differently than citations in the list.
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that issue.
>>> I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal" fields and
>>> set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or environment.
>>>
>>> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
>>> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
>>> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
>>> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
>>> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook
>>> of Style*, 2nd edition, available at
>>> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
>>> .
>>>
>>> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations by
>>> default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such as
>>> "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
>>> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
>>> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
>>> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
>>> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
>>> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
>>> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
>>> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
>>> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>>>
>>> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
>>> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
>>> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
>>> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
>>> separate e-mail thread.)
>>>
>>> Joey
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
>>>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>>>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>>>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>>>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in
>>>> bibliography
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
>>>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
>>>> "Linguistic
>>>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other
>>>> journal/series
>>>> > abbreviations).
>>>> >
>>>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>>>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>>>> >
>>>> > It should be as easy as
>>>> >
>>>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>>>> >
>>>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>>>> >
>>>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but the
>>>> full name
>>>> > should appear in the index.
>>>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help
>>>> you.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>>>
>>>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>>>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>>>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>>>> this though.
>>>>
>>>> Denis
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hraban
>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>> > ___________________
>>>> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
>>>> entry to the Wiki!
>>>> >
>>>> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>> archive  :
>>>> > https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>> > ___________________
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>>>> to the Wiki!
>>>>
>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>>
>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-06 18:35           ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-06 19:05             ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-06 21:58               ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-10-06 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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Okay, I had a follow-up question sooner than I thought! Enclosing the
\abbreviation command doesn't quite work when I want to typeset the
abbreviated form with a \texdefinition, as follows:

```
\texdefinition{btx:sbl:doifownfield} {shorthand} {

\expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
}
```

Thankfully, everything else gets rendered as expected. But why is the
\texdefinition not expanding? If it helps, I've included it below:

```
\starttexdefinition btx:sbl:inline:shorthand
  \btxdoif {shorthand} {
    % If the entry is of type plaintitle or plainshorthand, then do not
apply formatting to its shorthand
    \doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle, plainshorthand} {
      \btxflush{shorthand}
    } {
      \btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]
        \btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{
          \btxflush{shorthand}% set the shorthand according to the current
category
        }
      \btxstopstyleandcolor
    }
    \btxcomma
  }
\stoptexdefinition
```

Do I have to apply expansion control somewhere else or in some other way?

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> All right, I think I see what I did wrong; I just needed to enclose the
> whole \abbreviation command in an \expanded command as follows:
>
> ```
> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>   ...
>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>
> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}}
>   }
>   ...
> \stopsetups
> ```
>
> It looks like passing the macro \currentbtxtag as the tag for the
> abbreviation works fine. And if I redefine the abbreviations synonyms list
> as follows, I can use \inshort[\currentbtxtag]:
>
> ```
> \definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull][\inshort]
> ```
>
> I'll add more to the thread if I run into any problems making this more
> complex!
>
> Joey
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> (Quick note for anyone following this thread: I've figured out how to
>> implement different typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form
>> citations; you can see how I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in
>> the https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)
>>
>> I have another question related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection
>> with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and
>> I cite it using \cite[alternative=short], I would like to add its shorthand
>> to the abbreviations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My
>> first thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the
>> following:
>>
>> ```
>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>>   ...
>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>     \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
>>   }
>>   ...
>> \stopsetups
>> ```
>>
>> But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=all"
>> option, nothing appears in the list.
>>
>> In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which way
>> to type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that in
>> this case, I have to use a macro even in the first input to \abbreviation
>> (in brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance. In addition, if
>> the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly braces) are not
>> expanded until the list is printed, then they will be empty/undefined at
>> the time when they are needed.
>>
>> I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I could
>> use someone's expertise here. Is there a simple way to define an
>> abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a
>> way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction?
>> (Something like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <
>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the ConTeXt
>>> Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are defined
>>> in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
>>>
>>> \startsetups btx:cite:listelement
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>     \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
>>>         \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
>>>     \else
>>>        \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
>>>            \btxcitereference
>>>            \currentbtxfirst
>>>        }
>>>     \fi
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>> \stopsetups
>>>
>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>     \btxhandleciteentry
>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>> \stopsetups
>>>
>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
>>>     \startfootnote
>>>         \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
>>>     \stopfootnote
>>> \stopsetups
>>>
>>> Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
>>> \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
>>> the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
>>> document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
>>> third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
>>> citation in a footnote.
>>>
>>> But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used outside
>>> of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used.
>>> Meanwhile, the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked
>>> in these setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:
>>>
>>> \unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>   {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>    \else
>>>      \dontleavehmode
>>>      \iftrialtypesetting \else
>>>        \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
>>>          % can be made empty when combining author / year
>>>        \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
>>>          \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
>>>          \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>        \fi\fi
>>>      \fi
>>>   \fi}
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> \let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> \unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
>>>   {\dontleavehmode
>>>    \begingroup
>>>    \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
>>>    \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs checking
>>>    \btxcitereference
>>>    \btx_entry_inject
>>>    \endgroup}
>>>
>>> My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still
>>> not sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
>>> differently than citations in the list.
>>>
>>> Joey
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <
>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that issue.
>>>> I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal" fields and
>>>> set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or environment.
>>>>
>>>> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
>>>> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
>>>> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
>>>> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
>>>> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook
>>>> of Style*, 2nd edition, available at
>>>> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations
>>>> by default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such
>>>> as "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
>>>> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
>>>> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
>>>> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
>>>> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
>>>> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
>>>> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
>>>> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
>>>> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>>>>
>>>> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
>>>> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
>>>> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
>>>> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
>>>> separate e-mail thread.)
>>>>
>>>> Joey
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
>>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von Henning
>>>>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>>>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>>>>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>>>>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>>>>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in
>>>>> bibliography
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
>>>>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS" alongside
>>>>> "Linguistic
>>>>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other
>>>>> journal/series
>>>>> > abbreviations).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>>>>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It should be as easy as
>>>>> >
>>>>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but
>>>>> the full name
>>>>> > should appear in the index.
>>>>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help
>>>>> you.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>>>>
>>>>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>>>>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>>>>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>>>>> this though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hraban
>>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>>> > ___________________
>>>>> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
>>>>> entry to the Wiki!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>>> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>>> archive  :
>>>>> > https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>>> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>>> > ___________________
>>>>>
>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
>>>>> to the Wiki!
>>>>>
>>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>>>
>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-06 19:05             ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-06 21:58               ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-07  4:38                 ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-10-06 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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Interestingly, if I remove the contents of the btx:sbl:inline:shorthand
command and paste them inline as the third argument of \abbreviation, then
it works as expected:

```
\expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxdoif{shorthand}{\doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle,
plainshorthand}{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]\btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{\btxflush{shorthand}}\btxstopstyleandcolor}}}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
```

But obviously, this is much less readable. So if there is a more concise
solution that applies expansion control to
\texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}, I'd love to know it!

Thanks!

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:05 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Okay, I had a follow-up question sooner than I thought! Enclosing the
> \abbreviation command doesn't quite work when I want to typeset the
> abbreviated form with a \texdefinition, as follows:
>
> ```
> \texdefinition{btx:sbl:doifownfield} {shorthand} {
>
> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
> }
> ```
>
> Thankfully, everything else gets rendered as expected. But why is the
> \texdefinition not expanding? If it helps, I've included it below:
>
> ```
> \starttexdefinition btx:sbl:inline:shorthand
>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>     % If the entry is of type plaintitle or plainshorthand, then do not
> apply formatting to its shorthand
>     \doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle, plainshorthand} {
>       \btxflush{shorthand}
>     } {
>       \btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]
>         \btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{
>           \btxflush{shorthand}% set the shorthand according to the current
> category
>         }
>       \btxstopstyleandcolor
>     }
>     \btxcomma
>   }
> \stoptexdefinition
> ```
>
> Do I have to apply expansion control somewhere else or in some other way?
>
> Joey
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All right, I think I see what I did wrong; I just needed to enclose the
>> whole \abbreviation command in an \expanded command as follows:
>>
>> ```
>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>>   ...
>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>
>> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}}
>>   }
>>   ...
>> \stopsetups
>> ```
>>
>> It looks like passing the macro \currentbtxtag as the tag for the
>> abbreviation works fine. And if I redefine the abbreviations synonyms list
>> as follows, I can use \inshort[\currentbtxtag]:
>>
>> ```
>> \definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull][\inshort]
>> ```
>>
>> I'll add more to the thread if I run into any problems making this more
>> complex!
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <
>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> (Quick note for anyone following this thread: I've figured out how to
>>> implement different typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form
>>> citations; you can see how I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in
>>> the https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)
>>>
>>> I have another question related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection
>>> with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and
>>> I cite it using \cite[alternative=short], I would like to add its shorthand
>>> to the abbreviations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My
>>> first thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>>>   ...
>>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>>     \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
>>>   }
>>>   ...
>>> \stopsetups
>>> ```
>>>
>>> But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=all"
>>> option, nothing appears in the list.
>>>
>>> In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which way
>>> to type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that in
>>> this case, I have to use a macro even in the first input to \abbreviation
>>> (in brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance. In addition, if
>>> the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly braces) are not
>>> expanded until the list is printed, then they will be empty/undefined at
>>> the time when they are needed.
>>>
>>> I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I could
>>> use someone's expertise here. Is there a simple way to define an
>>> abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a
>>> way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction?
>>> (Something like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Joey
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <
>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the
>>>> ConTeXt Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are
>>>> defined in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
>>>>
>>>> \startsetups btx:cite:listelement
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>>     \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
>>>>         \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
>>>>     \else
>>>>        \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
>>>>            \btxcitereference
>>>>            \currentbtxfirst
>>>>        }
>>>>     \fi
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>
>>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>>     \btxhandleciteentry
>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>
>>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
>>>>     \startfootnote
>>>>         \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
>>>>     \stopfootnote
>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>
>>>> Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
>>>> \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
>>>> the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
>>>> document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
>>>> third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
>>>> citation in a footnote.
>>>>
>>>> But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used outside
>>>> of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used.
>>>> Meanwhile, the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked
>>>> in these setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:
>>>>
>>>> \unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>>   {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>>    \else
>>>>      \dontleavehmode
>>>>      \iftrialtypesetting \else
>>>>        \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
>>>>          % can be made empty when combining author / year
>>>>        \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
>>>>          \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
>>>>          \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>>        \fi\fi
>>>>      \fi
>>>>   \fi}
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> \let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> \unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
>>>>   {\dontleavehmode
>>>>    \begingroup
>>>>    \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
>>>>    \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs checking
>>>>    \btxcitereference
>>>>    \btx_entry_inject
>>>>    \endgroup}
>>>>
>>>> My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still
>>>> not sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
>>>> differently than citations in the list.
>>>>
>>>> Joey
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <
>>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that
>>>>> issue. I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal"
>>>>> fields and set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or
>>>>> environment.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
>>>>> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
>>>>> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
>>>>> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
>>>>> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL Handbook
>>>>> of Style*, 2nd edition, available at
>>>>> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations
>>>>> by default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such
>>>>> as "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
>>>>> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
>>>>> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
>>>>> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
>>>>> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
>>>>> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
>>>>> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
>>>>> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
>>>>> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
>>>>> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
>>>>> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
>>>>> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
>>>>> separate e-mail thread.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Joey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
>>>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von
>>>>>> Henning
>>>>>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>>>>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>>>>>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>>>>>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>>>>>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in
>>>>>> bibliography
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-
>>>>>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS"
>>>>>> alongside "Linguistic
>>>>>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other
>>>>>> journal/series
>>>>>> > abbreviations).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>>>>>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It should be as easy as
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but
>>>>>> the full name
>>>>>> > should appear in the index.
>>>>>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might help
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>>>>>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>>>>>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>>>>>> this though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hraban
>>>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> > ___________________
>>>>>> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
>>>>>> entry to the Wiki!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>>>> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>>>> archive  :
>>>>>> > https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>>>> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>>>> > ________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> > ___________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an
>>>>>> entry to the Wiki!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
>>>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>>>>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
>>>>>> archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
>>>>>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-06 21:58               ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-07  4:38                 ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  2021-10-08 11:38                   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Joey McCollum via ntg-context @ 2021-10-07  4:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Joey McCollum


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A concise solution that I found would work was to define a "shorthand"
citation alternative and just print the shorthand with that:

```
% Shorthand citation setup
\startsetups btx:sbl:cite:shorthand
  \begingroup
  \def\currentbtxcategory{\btxfield{category}}
  \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}
  \endgroup
  \removeunwantedspaces
  \removepunctuation
\stopsetups

...

\expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\textcite[alternative=shorthand,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
```

Again, this works, although I'm still not sure why
invoking \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand} directly doesn't.

Joey

On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 5:58 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Interestingly, if I remove the contents of the btx:sbl:inline:shorthand
> command and paste them inline as the third argument of \abbreviation, then
> it works as expected:
>
> ```
> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxdoif{shorthand}{\doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle,
> plainshorthand}{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]\btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{\btxflush{shorthand}}\btxstopstyleandcolor}}}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
> ```
>
> But obviously, this is much less readable. So if there is a more concise
> solution that applies expansion control to
> \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}, I'd love to know it!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joey
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:05 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I had a follow-up question sooner than I thought! Enclosing the
>> \abbreviation command doesn't quite work when I want to typeset the
>> abbreviated form with a \texdefinition, as follows:
>>
>> ```
>> \texdefinition{btx:sbl:doifownfield} {shorthand} {
>>
>> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
>> }
>> ```
>>
>> Thankfully, everything else gets rendered as expected. But why is the
>> \texdefinition not expanding? If it helps, I've included it below:
>>
>> ```
>> \starttexdefinition btx:sbl:inline:shorthand
>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>     % If the entry is of type plaintitle or plainshorthand, then do not
>> apply formatting to its shorthand
>>     \doifinsetelse{\btxflush{type}}{plainttitle, plainshorthand} {
>>       \btxflush{shorthand}
>>     } {
>>       \btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]
>>         \btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{
>>           \btxflush{shorthand}% set the shorthand according to the
>> current category
>>         }
>>       \btxstopstyleandcolor
>>     }
>>     \btxcomma
>>   }
>> \stoptexdefinition
>> ```
>>
>> Do I have to apply expansion control somewhere else or in some other way?
>>
>> Joey
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:35 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All right, I think I see what I did wrong; I just needed to enclose the
>>> whole \abbreviation command in an \expanded command as follows:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>>>   ...
>>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>>
>>> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}}
>>>   }
>>>   ...
>>> \stopsetups
>>> ```
>>>
>>> It looks like passing the macro \currentbtxtag as the tag for the
>>> abbreviation works fine. And if I redefine the abbreviations synonyms list
>>> as follows, I can use \inshort[\currentbtxtag]:
>>>
>>> ```
>>> \definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull][\inshort]
>>> ```
>>>
>>> I'll add more to the thread if I run into any problems making this more
>>> complex!
>>>
>>> Joey
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joey McCollum <
>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Quick note for anyone following this thread: I've figured out how to
>>>> implement different typesetting rules for list, inline, and short-form
>>>> citations; you can see how I've done this in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file in
>>>> the https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl repository.)
>>>>
>>>> I have another question related to abbreviations/synonyms in connection
>>>> with bibliographies. When a bibliographic entry has a "shorthand" field and
>>>> I cite it using \cite[alternative=short], I would like to add its shorthand
>>>> to the abbreviations list, with a longer citation as its "in-full" form. My
>>>> first thought was that I could accomplish this with something like the
>>>> following:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:short
>>>>   ...
>>>>   \btxdoif {shorthand} {
>>>>
>>>> \abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\btxflush{shorthand}}{\btxflush{title}}
>>>>   }
>>>>   ...
>>>> \stopsetups
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> But even if I invoke \placelistofabbreviations with the "criterium=all"
>>>> option, nothing appears in the list.
>>>>
>>>> In some ways, this issue is related to the now-resolved issue "Which
>>>> way to type greek letters in synonym list?" from 2010. The problem is that
>>>> in this case, I have to use a macro even in the first input
>>>> to \abbreviation (in brackets), because I don't know what it is in advance.
>>>> In addition, if the second and third inputs to \abbreviation (in curly
>>>> braces) are not expanded until the list is printed, then they will be
>>>> empty/undefined at the time when they are needed.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not as familiar with how to deal with expansion problems, so I
>>>> could use someone's expertise here. Is there a simple way to define an
>>>> abbreviation using the expanded values of macros as above? And is there a
>>>> way to invoke an abbreviation/synonym at this level of abstraction?
>>>> (Something like \inshort[\currentbtxtag]?)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Joey
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:11 PM Joey McCollum <
>>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just continuing to talk my way through the inner workings of the
>>>>> ConTeXt Publication modules. It looks like three "long" citation forms are
>>>>> defined in publ-imp-cite.mkvi:
>>>>>
>>>>> \startsetups btx:cite:listelement
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>>>     \ifx\currentbtxfirst\empty
>>>>>         \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:\s!empty}
>>>>>     \else
>>>>>        \texdefinition {\s!btx:\s!cite:inject} {
>>>>>            \btxcitereference
>>>>>            \currentbtxfirst
>>>>>        }
>>>>>     \fi
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>>
>>>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:entry
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:concat}
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:lefttext}
>>>>>     \btxhandleciteentry
>>>>>     \fastsetup{\s!btx:\s!cite:righttext}
>>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>>
>>>>> \startsetups \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote
>>>>>     \startfootnote
>>>>>         \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
>>>>>     \stopfootnote
>>>>> \stopsetups
>>>>>
>>>>> Intuitively, I would expect btx:cite:listelement [why not
>>>>> \s!btx:\s!cite:listelement?] to handle rendering a bibliographic entry for
>>>>> the bibliography proper (i.e., the list typically placed at the end of a
>>>>> document), while \s!btx:\s!cite:entry would handle in-text citations. The
>>>>> third setup, \s!btx:\s!cite:footnote, simply renders the "entry"-style
>>>>> citation in a footnote.
>>>>>
>>>>> But as far as I can tell, the "listelement" setup is never used
>>>>> outside of publ-imp-cite.mkvi. Only the "entry" setup appears to be used.
>>>>> Meanwhile, the \btxcitereference and  \btxhandleciteentry macros (invoked
>>>>> in these setups) appear to be defined in publ-ini.mkiv:
>>>>>
>>>>> \unexpanded\def\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>>>   {\ifconditional\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>>>    \else
>>>>>      \dontleavehmode
>>>>>      \iftrialtypesetting \else
>>>>>        \ifx\currentbtxbacklink\empty
>>>>>          % can be made empty when combining author / year
>>>>>        \else\ifnum\currentbtxbacklink>\zerocount
>>>>>          \btx_cite_reference_inject_indeed
>>>>>          \settrue\c_btx_cite_reference_injected
>>>>>        \fi\fi
>>>>>      \fi
>>>>>   \fi}
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> \let\btxcitereference\btx_cite_reference_inject
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> \unexpanded\def\btxhandleciteentry
>>>>>   {\dontleavehmode
>>>>>    \begingroup
>>>>>    \def\currentbtxcitealternative{entry}%
>>>>>    \setbtxparameterset\s!cite\currentbtxcitealternative % needs
>>>>> checking
>>>>>    \btxcitereference
>>>>>    \btx_entry_inject
>>>>>    \endgroup}
>>>>>
>>>>> My next step will be to figure out what these are doing, but I'm still
>>>>> not sure if the module accommodates rendering in-text "entry" citations
>>>>> differently than citations in the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:55 AM Joey McCollum <
>>>>> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Henning's suggestion for abbreviations should work fine for that
>>>>>> issue. I could simply use the shorthand in the "series" and "journal"
>>>>>> fields and set up the appropriate \abbreviation calls in the document or
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the larger issue of bibliographies, I've started working on
>>>>>> publ-imp-sbl.lua and publ-imp-sbl.mkvi files. I knew I would need this for
>>>>>> my own project soon, and I felt it would be useful to myself and the
>>>>>> ConTeXt community if I could at least get a rudimentary version working.
>>>>>> I'm presently using the reference for examples from the *SBL
>>>>>> Handbook of Style*, 2nd edition, available at
>>>>>> https://github.com/dcpurton/biblatex-sbl/blob/master/test/biblatex-sbl-examples.ref.txt
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like you say, some parts are tricky. SBL uses "entry"-style citations
>>>>>> by default and doesn't seem to make use of other common alternatives (such
>>>>>> as "authoryear"). I can think of some existing alternatives that might get
>>>>>> used in specific cases (e.g., "author", "title"), but the
>>>>>> recommended shorthand has the form "shortauthor, shorttitle" (i.e., the
>>>>>> last name(s) of the author(s) only, followed by a comma and a shortened
>>>>>> form of the title as specified in the "shorttitle" field). I could make
>>>>>> this the sbl style's implementation of the "short" alternative, since the
>>>>>> LaTeX-style bracketed number references are foreign to SBL style anyway,
>>>>>> but if would be preferable just to introduce another alternative (something
>>>>>> like "authortitle"), then I could also try to do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For my immediate purposes, I won't need much more than the @book,
>>>>>> @article, @inbook, and @incollection entries, so my focus will be on
>>>>>> getting those right, but if anyone is interested in helping, I'll gladly
>>>>>> take help. (But it would probably be better to discuss the details in a
>>>>>> separate e-mail thread.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:12 AM Denis Maier via ntg-context <
>>>>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> > Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> Im Auftrag von
>>>>>>> Henning
>>>>>>> > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
>>>>>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. August 2021 22:40
>>>>>>> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>>>>>>> > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
>>>>>>> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Short forms and abbreviations in
>>>>>>> bibliography
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > Am 07.08.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Joey McCollum via ntg-context
>>>>>>> <ntg-
>>>>>>> > context@ntg.nl>:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > A separate list of abbreviations would then list "LSAWS"
>>>>>>> alongside "Linguistic
>>>>>>> > Studies in Ancient West Semitic" (and likewise for other
>>>>>>> journal/series
>>>>>>> > abbreviations).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Regarding abbreviations have a look at
>>>>>>> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definesynonyms
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > It should be as easy as
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > \abbreviation{LSAWS}{Linguistic Studies in Ancient West Semitic}
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The full name of \quote{LSAWS} is \infull{LSAWS}.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > \placelistofabbreviations
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I had a case where mostly abbreviations were used in the text but
>>>>>>> the full name
>>>>>>> > should appear in the index.
>>>>>>> > I can provide the setup (including Lua functions), if it might
>>>>>>> help you.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Can’t help with bibliographies, sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SBL is a tricky beast anyway. There were some discussions regarding
>>>>>>> implementing Chicago Manual of Style a couple of weeks ago. Develelopments
>>>>>>> on that front could also be useful for SBL. Don't know what came out of
>>>>>>> this though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hraban
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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-07  4:38                 ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-08 11:38                   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
  2021-10-11 14:24                     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2021-10-08 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen, Alan BRASLAU

On 10/7/2021 6:38 AM, Joey McCollum via ntg-context wrote:
> A concise solution that I found would work was to define a "shorthand" 
> citation alternative and just print the shorthand with that:
> 
> ```
> % Shorthand citation setup
> \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:shorthand
>    \begingroup
>    \def\currentbtxcategory{\btxfield{category}}
>    \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}
>    \endgroup
>    \removeunwantedspaces
>    \removepunctuation
> \stopsetups
> 
> ...
> 
> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\textcite[alternative=shorthand,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
> ```
> 
> Again, this works, although I'm still not sure why 
> invoking \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand} directly doesn't.
I leave it to Alan to comment on this as he's the bib guru

Hans

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* Re: Short forms and abbreviations in bibliography
  2021-10-08 11:38                   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
@ 2021-10-11 14:24                     ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
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  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: Joey McCollum, mailing list for ConTeXt users, Alan BRASLAU


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If it helps with troubleshooting, I've also tried to do this with
\fastsetup instead of \texdefinition:

```
\expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:shorthand}}{
\fastsetup{btx:sbl:cite:listsubcite}}}
```

This also doesn't work, but I at least get a "Missing control sequence
inserted" error. The following MWE should reproduce the error (it modifies
the existing Chicago rendering, but since I couldn't figure out how to add
a shorthand field to the @book category in the chicago spec from within the
MWE, I just used the note field as a placeholder for it):

```

% Setup a minimal bibliography
\startbuffer [bib]
@book{Author1:2016,
author={Author1},
title={Work1},
note={W1},
publisher={Publisher1},
year=2016,
}
@book{Author2:2015,
author={Author2},
title={Work2},
publisher={Publisher2},
year=2015,
}
\stopbuffer
\usebtxdataset [bib.buffer]

% Setup a new cite alternative to test the desired functionality
\startbtxrenderingdefinitions[chicago]
\definesynonyms[abbreviation][abbreviations][\infull][\inshort] % we need
the \inshort command to access abbreviations by their entry tag

\startsetups btx:chicago:cite:shorthand
\fastsetup{btx:cite:concat}
\fastsetup{btx:cite:lefttext}
\begingroup
\def\currentbtxcitealternative{short}
\def\currentbtxcategory{\btxfield{category}}
\btxstartstyleandcolor[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]
            \btxusecommand[sbl:\s!list:title:\currentbtxcategory]{
              \btxflush{note}% set the shorthand according to the current
category
            }
          \btxstopstyleandcolor
\endgroup
\fastsetup{btx:cite:righttext}
\stopsetups

\startsetups btx:chicago:cite:test
\fastsetup{btx:cite:concat}
\fastsetup{btx:cite:lefttext}
\btxdoifelse{note} {
 %\expanded{\definesynonym[yes][abbreviation][\currentbtxtag]{\fastsetup{btx:chicago:cite:shorthand}}{\fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}}}%
this throws a Missing control sequence inserted error
 \expanded{\definesynonym[yes][abbreviation][\currentbtxtag]{\cite[alternative=shorthand][\currentbtxtag]}{\cite[alternative=entry][\currentbtxtag]}}%
this works, but recursively cites the same tag
 \inshort{\currentbtxtag}
} {
 \fastsetup{btx:cite:entry}
}
\fastsetup{btx:cite:righttext}
\stopsetups
\stopbtxrenderingdefinitions

% Use this cite alternative by default
\usebtxdefinitions[chicago]
\setupbtx[chicago:cite][alternative=test]

\starttext
\cite[Author1:2016]\blank
\cite[Author2:2015]\blank
\page
\startsubject[title=Abbreviations]
\placelistofabbreviations
\stopsubject
\page
\startsubject[title=Bibliography]
\placelistofpublications
\stopsubject
\stoptext
```

Joey

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 7:38 AM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> On 10/7/2021 6:38 AM, Joey McCollum via ntg-context wrote:
> > A concise solution that I found would work was to define a "shorthand"
> > citation alternative and just print the shorthand with that:
> >
> > ```
> > % Shorthand citation setup
> > \startsetups btx:sbl:cite:shorthand
> >    \begingroup
> >    \def\currentbtxcategory{\btxfield{category}}
> >    \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand}
> >    \endgroup
> >    \removeunwantedspaces
> >    \removepunctuation
> > \stopsetups
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> \expanded{\abbreviation[\currentbtxtag]{\textcite[alternative=shorthand,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}{\textcite[alternative=listsubcite,lefttext=,righttext=][\currentbtxtag]}}
> > ```
> >
> > Again, this works, although I'm still not sure why
> > invoking \texdefinition{btx:sbl:inline:shorthand} directly doesn't.
> I leave it to Alan to comment on this as he's the bib guru
>
> Hans
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