From: tytso@mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: [TUHS] RFS was: Re: UNIX of choice these days?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 23:19:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170928031949.gzkgew4adwtedqjd@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170928003954.GJ28606@mcvoy.com>
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 05:39:54PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
> It's important to note, when talking about NFS, that there was Sun's NFS
> and everyone else's NFS. Sun ran their entire company on NFS. /usr/dist
> was where all the software that was not part of SunOS lived, it was an
> NFS mounted volume (that was replicated to each subnet). It was heavily
> used as were a lot of other things. The automounter at Sun just worked,
> wanted to see your buddies stuff? You just cd-ed to it and it worked.
So the story that went around MIT Project Athena was that there was
Sun's NFS, and then there was the version which Sun gave way for
others to use, which was a clean-room re-implementation by a
relatively junior engineer. Which is why when a file was truncated
and then rewritten, and "truncate this file" packet got reordered and
got received after the "here's the new 4k of contents of the file",
Hilarty Enused.
I'm pretty sure the last part was true, because we debugged it at MIT.
Does anyone know if the bit of the "open source" version of NFS being
a crappy reimplementation which Sun "gifted" to the rest of the
industry was true or not?
- Ted
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2017-09-20 0:12 [TUHS] " Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 0:26 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 0:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-20 1:03 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20 20:56 ` jason-tuhs
2017-09-23 9:17 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-23 9:36 ` Steve Mynott
2017-09-23 10:03 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-23 23:04 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 0:11 ` Random832
2017-09-24 1:19 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 13:46 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-24 14:02 ` ron minnich
2017-09-24 14:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-24 20:36 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-24 21:38 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-24 23:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 23:50 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-25 0:03 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-25 15:36 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-26 0:42 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-26 9:54 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-26 14:41 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-26 17:34 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-26 17:39 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-26 18:26 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-26 17:43 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-26 19:44 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-26 23:22 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-25 0:51 ` Charles Anthony
2017-09-25 0:36 ` Dan Cross
2017-09-25 0:44 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-25 0:56 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-25 15:45 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-25 16:14 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-25 7:41 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-25 7:43 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-09-25 10:14 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-25 9:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-25 11:14 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-09-25 11:48 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-09-24 15:26 ` Christian Barthel
2017-09-24 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 17:51 ` [TUHS] RFS was: " Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 19:54 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 21:59 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 22:08 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 23:52 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-27 8:44 ` arnold
2017-09-27 15:25 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-27 15:49 ` arnold
2017-09-27 17:38 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2017-09-27 23:01 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-27 23:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-27 23:13 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-28 0:39 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 3:19 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2017-09-28 13:45 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 17:12 ` Steve Johnson
2017-09-28 17:58 ` [TUHS] Bill Joy was: Re: RFS Forrest, Jon
2017-09-28 0:54 ` [TUHS] RFS was: Re: UNIX of choice these days? Dave Horsfall
2017-09-28 0:59 ` William Pechter
2017-09-28 13:49 ` arnold
2017-09-28 14:07 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 14:28 ` arnold
2017-09-28 19:49 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 20:00 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-28 14:27 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-28 22:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-28 22:20 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 2:23 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-29 8:59 ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-09-29 14:20 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-29 16:46 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-29 17:02 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-29 17:27 ` Pete Wright
2017-09-29 18:11 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-29 18:47 ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-09-29 15:22 ` George Ross
2017-09-29 18:40 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 19:03 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 21:24 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-29 22:11 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 22:21 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 19:19 ` Dan Cross
2017-09-29 19:22 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 20:52 ` Jon Forrest
2017-09-23 23:00 ` [TUHS] " Dave Horsfall
2017-09-26 22:00 ` Christian Groessler
2017-09-20 4:42 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 8:31 ` Mutiny
2017-09-20 9:15 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 16:58 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 17:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 17:53 ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 18:12 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 18:33 ` Brad Spencer
2017-09-20 19:20 ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 19:37 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 19:58 ` Jacob Ritorto
2017-09-20 22:29 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 22:31 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-20 12:52 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-20 13:33 ` Nemo
2017-09-20 15:39 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 15:42 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 16:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 17:09 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 17:31 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 22:40 ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 22:51 ` Erik Berls
2017-09-20 23:37 ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21 1:47 ` Derrik Walker v2.0
2017-09-21 3:54 ` Gregg Levine
2017-09-21 14:33 ` Nicholas Chappell
2017-09-21 16:38 ` Mutiny
2017-09-21 16:42 ` gilbertmm
2017-09-21 18:30 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 23:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-25 10:36 ` Thomas Kellar
2017-09-28 12:53 [TUHS] RFS was: " Noel Chiappa
2017-09-28 14:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-28 14:35 ` Clem Cole
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2017-09-28 14:08 ` David
2017-09-28 17:22 ` Pete Wright
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