From: bakul@bitblocks.com (Bakul Shah)
Subject: [TUHS] UNIX of choice these days?
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:34:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A45CD5-45A0-44C8-ABC4-0644D7A23493@bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170926144155.GW28606@mcvoy.com>
You probably know Brantley Coile did ata over Ethernet. AOE is a simple protocol so the client side driver is simple. He ran plan9 on his controller. One per rack. Basically you have a storage area network. Adding disks becomes very easy. His company is back in business if you want to buy some!
AOE is probably a better idea than FCoE, fiber channel over Ethernet, with its requirement for a reliable transport. On the other hand, may be there is need for encrypted channels all the way to disks.
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> So maybe Ron Minnich will remember this. Back in the days of 10Mbit
> ethernet I was pushing for 100Mbit. Part of what I wanted was ethernet
> all the way out to the disk drives. It was a little ahead of its time,
> the idea was to run Linux on the general purpose processor and be able
> to send the questions to the drive rather than slurping all the data
> across and pawing through it on the main CPU. That was part of the
> idea, the other part was power over ethernet and you need more space?
> Just plug in a drive.
>
> It's been over 20 years since I proposed that and things are starting
> to look up a little. Western Digital made a version of what I wanted,
> an ethernet attached drive with a key/value store on the drive. Not
> quite there but closer. And I just stumbled across this:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center_bridging
>
> Not sure how well that will work but it's interesting that people are
> working on it.
>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:43PM +1300, Wesley Parish wrote:
>> Yes. I thought it made a lot of sense.
>>
>> Quoting Tony Finch <dot at dotat.at>:
>>
>>> Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I once thought of developing a computer where everything from the
>>> core
>>>> functions to the peripherals was a network node. In effect replacing
>>> the
>>>> bus. I found references to a Cambridge U (UK) computer system that
>>>> purported to do just that but couldn't find any more info on it.
>>>
>>> The Desk Area Network, perhaps?
>>> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/srg/dan.html
>>>
>>> Tony.
>>> --
>>> f.anthony.n.finch <dot at dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode
>>> Malin, Hebrides: Southeast 3 or 4, increasing 5 or 6, occasionally 7
>>> later in
>>> west. Moderate becoming rough later. Fair. Good.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
>> Method for Guitar
>>
>> "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn
>
> --
> ---
> Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm
>
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2017-09-20 0:12 Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 0:26 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 0:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-20 1:03 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-09-20 20:56 ` jason-tuhs
2017-09-23 9:17 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-23 9:36 ` Steve Mynott
2017-09-23 10:03 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-23 23:04 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 0:11 ` Random832
2017-09-24 1:19 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 13:46 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-24 14:02 ` ron minnich
2017-09-24 14:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-24 20:36 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-24 21:38 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-24 23:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-24 23:50 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-25 0:03 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-25 15:36 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-26 0:42 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-26 9:54 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-26 14:41 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-26 17:34 ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2017-09-26 17:39 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-26 18:26 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-26 17:43 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-26 19:44 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-26 23:22 ` Wesley Parish
2017-09-25 0:51 ` Charles Anthony
2017-09-25 0:36 ` Dan Cross
2017-09-25 0:44 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-25 0:56 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-25 15:45 ` Tony Finch
2017-09-25 16:14 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-25 7:41 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-25 7:43 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-09-25 10:14 ` Andy Kosela
2017-09-25 9:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-25 11:14 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-09-25 11:48 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-09-24 15:26 ` Christian Barthel
2017-09-24 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 17:51 ` [TUHS] RFS was: " Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 19:54 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-24 21:59 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 22:08 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-24 23:52 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-27 8:44 ` arnold
2017-09-27 15:25 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-27 15:49 ` arnold
2017-09-27 17:38 ` Mantas Mikulėnas
2017-09-27 23:01 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-27 23:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-27 23:13 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-28 0:39 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 3:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-28 13:45 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 17:12 ` Steve Johnson
2017-09-28 17:58 ` [TUHS] Bill Joy was: Re: RFS Forrest, Jon
2017-09-28 0:54 ` [TUHS] RFS was: Re: UNIX of choice these days? Dave Horsfall
2017-09-28 0:59 ` William Pechter
2017-09-28 13:49 ` arnold
2017-09-28 14:07 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 14:28 ` arnold
2017-09-28 19:49 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 20:00 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-28 14:27 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-28 22:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-28 22:20 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 2:23 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-29 8:59 ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-09-29 14:20 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-29 16:46 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-29 17:02 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-29 17:27 ` Pete Wright
2017-09-29 18:11 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-29 18:47 ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-09-29 15:22 ` George Ross
2017-09-29 18:40 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 19:03 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 21:24 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-29 22:11 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 22:21 ` Don Hopkins
2017-09-29 19:19 ` Dan Cross
2017-09-29 19:22 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-29 20:52 ` Jon Forrest
2017-09-23 23:00 ` [TUHS] " Dave Horsfall
2017-09-26 22:00 ` Christian Groessler
2017-09-20 4:42 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 8:31 ` Mutiny
2017-09-20 9:15 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 16:58 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 17:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 17:53 ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 18:12 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 18:33 ` Brad Spencer
2017-09-20 19:20 ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 19:37 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 19:58 ` Jacob Ritorto
2017-09-20 22:29 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 22:31 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-20 12:52 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-20 13:33 ` Nemo
2017-09-20 15:39 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 15:42 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 16:58 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 17:09 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 17:31 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 22:40 ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 22:51 ` Erik Berls
2017-09-20 23:37 ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21 1:47 ` Derrik Walker v2.0
2017-09-21 3:54 ` Gregg Levine
2017-09-21 14:33 ` Nicholas Chappell
2017-09-21 16:38 ` Mutiny
2017-09-21 16:42 ` gilbertmm
2017-09-21 18:30 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 23:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-25 10:36 ` Thomas Kellar
2017-09-21 2:28 Rudi Blom
2017-09-23 23:39 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2017-09-25 12:07 Norman Wilson
2017-09-25 14:16 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-25 15:13 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-25 16:51 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-26 0:56 ` ron minnich
2017-09-25 15:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-25 15:30 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-25 23:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-26 2:06 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-26 14:53 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-26 15:17 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-26 21:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-26 21:43 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-26 21:45 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-27 0:58 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-27 1:37 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-27 2:02 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-27 13:50 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-27 14:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-28 8:10 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-09-28 12:34 ` Chet Ramey
[not found] ` <20170928174420.GA41732@accordion.employees.org>
2017-09-28 17:57 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-09-28 18:04 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-27 3:42 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-27 14:35 ` Chet Ramey
2017-09-25 12:46 [TUHS] Unix " Doug McIlroy
2017-09-25 13:57 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-30 15:17 [TUHS] UNIX " Norman Wilson
2017-09-30 20:29 ` Kevin Bowling
2017-09-30 21:56 ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-30 22:37 ` Kevin Bowling
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