From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] SunOS code?
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 11:36:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3960b738-0939-d43d-e8b3-4454954f31a9@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrvtbtN7Kfg3EeB3gYHvWUxOEb7OLT31zjGNxd0YVZQ2w@mail.gmail.com>
On 9/5/18 11:26 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
> On 9/5/2018 2:31 AM, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> > It's the common example that I use to tell people that opensourcing
> > software makes it more secure because the good guys have access to the
> > source code at the same time as the bad guys, which gives them a fair
> > chance to fix bugs before the bad guys use them.
>
>
> Bash/Shellshock kinda proves that premise incorrect, although it's
> pretty much the worst-case example, but still... ;)
>
>
> I'm not sure it does. It proves that bugs aren't instantly found, true. It
> doesn't provide perfection, but does make it easier to find / fix bugs
> before the bad guys. How long would such a bug have languished it if were
> buried inside of DCL.B32 instead of being out in the open?
It proves that if there is someone who has an idea, or who thinks about a
thing in new ways, he can verify his suspicions without too much trouble.
The barrier to investigation is lowered.
Chet
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-05 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-30 21:34 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-31 1:59 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-08-31 21:34 ` Cág
2018-08-31 21:39 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31 21:47 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-31 21:57 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-31 21:58 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-31 22:02 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-31 22:19 ` Cág
2018-08-31 22:23 ` Jon Forrest
2018-08-31 22:30 ` Cág
2018-08-31 22:34 ` Jon Forrest
2018-09-01 10:46 ` Donald ODona
2018-08-31 22:20 ` Cág
2018-08-31 23:02 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-01 1:57 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 3:23 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-01 16:29 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-01 16:35 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 19:32 ` Clem Cole
2018-09-01 16:27 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-01 17:17 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-01 22:19 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-02 5:05 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-02 19:43 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-04 11:47 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-04 17:39 ` Gilles Gravier
2018-09-04 17:45 ` Henry Bent
2018-09-05 6:31 ` Gilles Gravier
2018-09-05 12:55 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-05 15:26 ` Warner Losh
2018-09-05 15:36 ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2018-09-05 15:43 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-05 23:40 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-06 3:21 ` [TUHS] Mail etiquette (was: SunOS code?) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-09-05 0:10 ` [TUHS] SunOS code? Tony Finch
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-04 17:58 Noel Chiappa
2018-09-06 0:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-30 19:54 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-30 20:05 ` Earl Baugh
2018-08-30 19:41 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-30 19:46 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:04 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-30 20:22 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:36 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:40 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:43 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:38 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-30 20:42 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:43 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:37 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31 5:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-08-31 9:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 11:01 ` Gregg Levine
2018-08-31 11:05 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-08-24 15:13 [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? Seth Morabito
2018-08-24 16:06 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-27 15:54 ` Mary Ann Horton
2018-08-27 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-28 0:24 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-28 0:30 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-28 6:01 ` arnold
2018-08-28 22:33 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29 0:36 ` Harald Arnesen
2018-08-29 0:46 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 5:29 ` [TUHS] SunOS code? arnold
2018-08-29 14:40 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 14:41 ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 14:44 ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 14:46 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-29 14:43 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:53 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 11:43 ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 13:50 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 14:32 ` Warner Losh
2018-09-04 9:39 ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 15:01 ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 15:20 ` Warner Losh
2018-09-01 18:24 ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 18:38 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 23:09 ` David Arnold
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