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From: Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] SunOS code?
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 09:29:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK7dMtCTWAbVJNv+xSaGS+NmzFsR_+0+SR55Ajt4Qq-fp9QmUg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180901032318.GD27277@thunk.org>

I am surprised how good Sun's technical marketing was for you to think
this.  Linux has scaled better since the early 2000s.  The Solaris
x86-64 port has some real gaffes in it to this day at least as visible
in the OpenSolaris derivative codebases, serialization in the locking
primitives kind of things.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:23 PM, Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 06:57:41PM -0700, Larry McVoy wrote:
>>
>> But all that said, you need to be specific about what perf you care
>> about.  These days the kernel is far more complicated, NUMA etc,
>> and you might care about parallel make (I doubt it) or you might care
>> about Oracle or something like that.
>
> It wouldn't surprise me if Solaris was more scalable for gazillion
> dollar SMP machines with a huge number of cores.  That was one of the
> reason as I recall why Solaris had a reputation of being slow; being
> scalable to big (and much more profitable) servers was considered more
> important than the smaller systems that were probably more numerous
> (but not nearly as profitable).
>
>                                         - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-01 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-30 21:34 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-31  1:59 ` Kevin Bowling
2018-08-31 21:34   ` Cág
2018-08-31 21:39     ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31 21:47       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-08-31 21:57     ` Warner Losh
2018-08-31 21:58     ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-31 22:02       ` Warner Losh
2018-08-31 22:19       ` Cág
2018-08-31 22:23         ` Jon Forrest
2018-08-31 22:30           ` Cág
2018-08-31 22:34             ` Jon Forrest
2018-09-01 10:46             ` Donald ODona
2018-08-31 22:20       ` Cág
2018-08-31 23:02       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-01  1:57         ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01  3:23           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-01 16:29             ` Kevin Bowling [this message]
2018-09-01 16:35               ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 19:32                 ` Clem Cole
2018-09-01 16:27         ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-01 17:17           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-01 22:19             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-02  5:05               ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-02 19:43                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-04 11:47                   ` Kevin Bowling
2018-09-04 17:39                     ` Gilles Gravier
2018-09-04 17:45                       ` Henry Bent
2018-09-05  6:31                         ` Gilles Gravier
2018-09-05 12:55                           ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-05 15:26                             ` Warner Losh
2018-09-05 15:36                               ` Chet Ramey
2018-09-05 15:43                               ` Arthur Krewat
2018-09-05 23:40                           ` Dave Horsfall
2018-09-06  3:21                             ` [TUHS] Mail etiquette (was: SunOS code?) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-09-05  0:10                 ` [TUHS] SunOS code? Tony Finch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-04 17:58 Noel Chiappa
2018-09-06  0:39 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-30 19:54 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-30 20:05 ` Earl Baugh
2018-08-30 19:41 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-30 19:46 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:04 ` Warner Losh
2018-08-30 20:22   ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:33     ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:36       ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:40         ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:43           ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:38     ` Warner Losh
2018-08-30 20:42       ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-30 20:43         ` Clem Cole
2018-08-30 20:37 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-31  5:49 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-08-31  9:50   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-31 11:01     ` Gregg Levine
2018-08-31 11:05       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-08-24 15:13 [TUHS] Research UNIX on the AT&T 3B2? Seth Morabito
2018-08-24 16:06 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-27 15:54   ` Mary Ann Horton
2018-08-27 17:33     ` Clem Cole
2018-08-28  0:24       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-28  0:30         ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-28  6:01           ` arnold
2018-08-28 22:33             ` Dave Horsfall
2018-08-29  0:36               ` Harald Arnesen
2018-08-29  0:46                 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29  5:29                   ` [TUHS] SunOS code? arnold
2018-08-29 14:40                     ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 14:41                       ` Dan Cross
2018-08-29 14:44                         ` William Pechter
2018-08-29 14:46                           ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45                         ` Clem Cole
2018-08-29 14:43                     ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:45                       ` Warner Losh
2018-08-29 14:53                       ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 11:43                         ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 13:50                           ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 14:32                             ` Warner Losh
2018-09-04  9:39                               ` Andy Kosela
2018-09-01 15:01                           ` Larry McVoy
2018-09-01 15:20                             ` Warner Losh
2018-09-01 18:24                               ` Steve Mynott
2018-09-01 18:38                                 ` Larry McVoy
2018-08-29 23:09                       ` David Arnold

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