From: George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org>
To: Yeechang Lee <ylee@columbia.edu>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 10:55:37 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKr6gn0vBH1-ygTGJhhkhwCoADB+GLhx0UEfp2+G59uvK55zMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25545.58523.4766.431157@dobie-old.ylee.org>
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Mike Lesk is interesting on this. He said to me that if you assume people
are idiots they learn to behave to your expectations and if you treat them
with the respect they deserve they grow. It was in the context of library
index systems and "do you want easy mode" clippy style vs terse but
functional.
Many specialist secretary roles in times past were simply underpaid subject
matter experts even on a typing pool. Huge amounts of expert knowledge.
The data entry staff at Edinburgh uni notoriously corrected student
programs doing cardpunch work.
There's no 'just' in women's work. As the Chinese maoist poster said:
"women hold up half the sky".
G
On Fri, 20 Jan 2023, 10:47 Yeechang Lee, <ylee@columbia.edu> wrote:
> Rich Salz says:
> > To me, the biggest surprise about Unix history is that the Bell
> > patent office secretaries were able to use ed and [nt]roff.
>
> I've similarly heard that Sun secretaries were pretty adept at using Emacs.
>
> --
> geo:37.783333,-122.416667
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-18 9:43 [TUHS] " arnold
2023-01-18 14:46 ` [TUHS] " Phil Budne
2023-01-18 14:55 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-19 14:42 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:15 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 15:13 ` arnold
2023-01-18 15:14 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:10 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Stuff Received
2023-01-18 16:19 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:27 ` [TUHS] Maintenance mode on AIX Ron Natalie
2023-01-18 16:38 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:59 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-18 17:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 17:21 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 19:50 ` David Barto
2023-01-19 14:25 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 20:34 ` Arno Griffioen via TUHS
2023-01-18 20:50 ` Brad Spencer
2023-01-18 16:36 ` [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode Will Senn
2023-01-18 16:42 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 16:57 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 17:16 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-18 17:25 ` Will Senn
2023-01-18 21:09 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 21:18 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:13 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-18 19:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-19 15:02 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:12 ` arnold
2023-01-19 17:46 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-01-19 18:24 ` Doug McIntyre
2023-01-19 19:44 ` Chet Ramey
2023-01-20 13:09 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 14:37 ` Harald Arnesen
2023-01-18 16:48 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 0:54 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 1:09 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 18:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 18:57 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:48 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 20:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-20 19:08 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 1:17 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 1:26 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-20 15:53 ` Marc Donner
2023-01-19 14:45 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-19 15:05 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:59 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 19:33 ` [TUHS] The death of general purpose computers, was - " Will Senn
2023-01-19 20:09 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 20:59 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-19 21:11 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 13:30 ` Liam Proven
2023-01-20 15:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 15:56 ` Rich Morin
2023-01-20 16:24 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 18:21 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 18:33 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-18 18:58 ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 8:02 ` arnold
2023-01-19 15:04 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 15:20 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 15:23 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-19 16:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-19 16:58 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-19 23:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-20 0:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-20 1:22 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:02 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-19 17:19 ` Adam Thornton
2023-01-19 18:22 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 19:07 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 21:08 ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-19 20:01 ` [TUHS] The era of general purpose computing (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-19 22:23 ` [TUHS] " Luther Johnson
2023-01-20 1:10 ` John Cowan
2023-01-20 1:15 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-21 18:12 ` arnold
2023-01-21 18:43 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:29 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 22:39 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:41 ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-19 22:40 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-19 23:24 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-19 23:44 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-19 23:51 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-20 0:20 ` [TUHS] owner maintenance (Re: " Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2023-01-20 0:36 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 0:47 ` [TUHS] " Yeechang Lee
2023-01-20 0:55 ` George Michaelson [this message]
2023-01-20 1:05 ` Rich Salz
2023-01-20 1:10 ` George Michaelson
2023-01-20 2:27 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-18 21:20 ` [TUHS] " Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-18 21:27 ` Kevin Bowling
2023-01-19 2:17 ` Jim Carpenter
2023-01-19 21:15 ` Will Senn
2023-01-19 21:34 ` Drew Diver
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