From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: [TUHS] Windows roots and Unix influence (was Re: Happy birthday, Ken Thompson!)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 17:45:41 -0700 [thread overview]
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On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki at buric.co> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018, Michael Kjörling wrote:
>
> Honestly, I think you've got the timeline mixed up. Wikipedia puts the
>> Xbox introduction in 2001, which sounds about right to me. Designing
>> the core of the original Windows NT would be about a decade before
>> that, maybe a little earlier still, around 1990-ish. Around 1990 in
>> terms of game consoles was the Super Nintendo and Sega Mega Drive
>> (A.K.A. Sega Genesis), which the original Xbox was definitely _not_
>> contemporary with. I _think_ (but could certainly be mistaken about
>> this) that Windows 2000 ("NT 5") was the release that dropped several
>> non-Intel architectures; I'm _almost_ certain that NT 4 shipped with a
>> bunch of versions on the same installation CD, and believe that those
>> included both PowerPC and Alpha.
>>
>
> Pretty sure at least PPC was supported by NT4, but don't quote me.
>
> Also, I think the original NT "personality modules" included OS/2 (but
>> without Presentation Manager, the OS/2 GUI, so it only supported
>> text-mode OS/2 applications). The way I recall it, the OS/2 module was
>> a first-class citizen in NT 3.x, relegated to second-class citizen
>> status in NT 4.0 (it was there, but you had to jump through some hoops
>> to get it installed), and dropped with 5.0/2000.
>>
>
> 3.51 and 4.0, at least, both had a paid add-on for PM application support.
>
3.51 had MIPS support too, though that appears to have been dropped in 4.0.
I don't have my NT disks anymore to go check on that detail.
Warner
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2018-02-04 0:37 Dan Cross
2018-02-04 2:59 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-04 5:06 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04 5:18 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-05 19:43 ` Paul Winalski
2018-02-05 21:19 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-02-06 0:37 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-02-06 0:45 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2018-02-06 9:14 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04 9:14 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2018-02-04 14:15 ` arnold
2018-02-04 17:21 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-04 20:05 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-04 20:55 ` Nemo
2018-02-04 20:57 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-04 20:59 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-02-04 22:12 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-05 1:32 ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 1:44 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 21:04 ` Toby Thain
2018-02-04 22:22 ` Andy Kosela
2018-02-04 22:43 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 22:54 ` George Michaelson
2018-02-05 3:35 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 3:40 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-05 13:48 ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 14:31 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 21:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 21:57 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 22:31 ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-05 23:16 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:49 ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-06 17:42 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-06 18:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:10 ` Charles Anthony
2018-02-05 23:20 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:28 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 23:36 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:52 ` George Michaelson
2018-02-06 14:52 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-05 23:18 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-06 21:51 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-06 23:14 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-06 23:22 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-07 3:03 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07 1:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07 1:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 1:54 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 18:01 ` Tony Finch
2018-02-09 2:35 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-07 18:50 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-15 13:23 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-05 0:27 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-05 0:41 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-04 9:11 ` Donald ODona
2018-02-04 23:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 23:46 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04 23:58 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 0:06 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 5:37 ` Steve Johnson
2018-02-05 5:53 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-02-05 10:49 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 6:57 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 15:20 Doug McIlroy
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