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From: robert@timetraveller.org (Robert Brockway)
Subject: [TUHS] Windows roots and Unix influence (was Re: Happy birthday, Ken Thompson!)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 10:06:58 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1802041114310.3539@sirius.opentrend.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W7CaiOeeFde0G3t+_siaHGtpQosH95weB=MxjzjT4SgHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 3 Feb 2018, Dan Cross wrote:

> Now days, I understand that one can run Linux binaries natively; the
> Linux-compatibility subsystem will even `apt-get install` dependencies for
> you. Satya Nadella's company isn't your father's Microsoft anymore. VSCode
> (their new snazzy editor that apparently all the kids love) is Open Source.

It's interesting that this hasn't taken off more.  A year+ on and I hardly 
see anyone using it.

> The speculation of, "what would have happened?" is interesting, though of
> course unanswerable. I suspect that had it not been for Unix, we'd all be
> running software that was closer to what you'd find on a mainframe or RT-11.

This speaks to the "great man" theory of history.  This posits that 
history would have been different if a great person had died before their 
moment in history.  Eg, Winston Churchill was hit by a car when visiting 
New York City in the 1930s.  He looked the wrong way before trying to 
cross the road.  What if he had died?  Would WW2 have turned out 
substantially differently?

The alternative is to presume that a niche exists in to which a someone 
(or in this case an operating system) will step to become great.  Using 
this alternative view, if Winston Churchill had died in the 1930s (or if 
UNIX had not been developed) an alternative would have filled that niche. 
Maybe we'd all be talking about TOPS20 now :)

Rob


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-05  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-04  0:37 Dan Cross
2018-02-04  2:59 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-04  5:06   ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04  5:18     ` Warner Losh
2018-02-05 19:43     ` Paul Winalski
2018-02-05 21:19       ` Michael Kjörling
2018-02-06  0:37         ` Steve Nickolas
2018-02-06  0:45           ` Warner Losh
2018-02-06  9:14           ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04  9:14   ` Angelo Papenhoff
2018-02-04 14:15     ` arnold
2018-02-04 17:21     ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-04 20:05       ` Dan Cross
2018-02-04 20:55         ` Nemo
2018-02-04 20:57           ` Warner Losh
2018-02-04 20:59           ` Jon Steinhart
2018-02-04 22:12             ` Clem Cole
2018-02-05  1:32             ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05  1:44               ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 21:04         ` Toby Thain
2018-02-04 22:22           ` Andy Kosela
2018-02-04 22:43         ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 22:54           ` George Michaelson
2018-02-05  3:35           ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05  3:40           ` Dan Cross
2018-02-05 13:48             ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 14:31               ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 21:51               ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 21:57                 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 22:31                   ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-05 23:16                     ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:49                       ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-06 17:42                       ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-06 18:23                         ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:10                   ` Charles Anthony
2018-02-05 23:20                   ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:28                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 23:36                       ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:52                         ` George Michaelson
2018-02-06 14:52                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-05 23:18               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-06 21:51               ` Dan Cross
2018-02-06 23:14                 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-06 23:22                   ` Warner Losh
2018-02-07  3:03                     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07  1:23                 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07  1:33                   ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07  1:54                   ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 18:01                     ` Tony Finch
2018-02-09  2:35                       ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-07 18:50                     ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-15 13:23                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-05  0:27         ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-05  0:41     ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-04  9:11 ` Donald ODona
2018-02-04 23:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 23:46   ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04 23:58     ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05  0:06 ` Robert Brockway [this message]
2018-02-05  5:37   ` Steve Johnson
2018-02-05  5:53     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-02-05 10:49       ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05  6:57     ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 15:20 Doug McIlroy

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