From: dot@dotat.at (Tony Finch)
Subject: [TUHS] Windows roots and Unix influence (was Re: Happy birthday, Ken Thompson!)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 18:01:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1802071753320.12461@grey.csi.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W7c+ZvVMtOtEwH07z1dLEEA0rH8zBTEzomTBGRsq65VPA@mail.gmail.com>
Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...] But much VMS, whatever HP minicomputer stuff was floating around
> (MPE?) and all VM/CMS (I guess it was actually VM/ESA by that time)
> disappeared; VAXstations, serial terminals and 3179G's were all replaced
> by PCs running Windows and the users were replaced by these smiling
> robots. It was weird.
>
> Somehow, most of the Unix people managed to escape. I wonder why? [...]
>
> I wonder, too, if Unix networking didn't play a major role. I have this dim
> sense that NT was designed for a world in which it was still assumed that
> the OSI suite was going to win the networking wars. [...]
I was in my late teens around that time but I got the impression that in
the early to mid 1990s when this shift was happening, networking was
moving to IP and all the IP software was Unix - certainly it was the only
option if you wanted to run network services at the scale of a University
or ISP. At the same time Windows was all about workgroup-scale office
networking. I don't think their network protocols were OSI but Exchange
was based on X.400 and to this day still only does Internet mail
grudgingly.
Tony.
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2018-02-04 0:37 Dan Cross
2018-02-04 2:59 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-04 5:06 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04 5:18 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-05 19:43 ` Paul Winalski
2018-02-05 21:19 ` Michael Kjörling
2018-02-06 0:37 ` Steve Nickolas
2018-02-06 0:45 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-06 9:14 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-04 9:14 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2018-02-04 14:15 ` arnold
2018-02-04 17:21 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-04 20:05 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-04 20:55 ` Nemo
2018-02-04 20:57 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-04 20:59 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-02-04 22:12 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-05 1:32 ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 1:44 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 21:04 ` Toby Thain
2018-02-04 22:22 ` Andy Kosela
2018-02-04 22:43 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 22:54 ` George Michaelson
2018-02-05 3:35 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 3:40 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-05 13:48 ` William Cheswick
2018-02-05 14:31 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 21:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 21:57 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 22:31 ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-05 23:16 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:49 ` Grant Taylor
2018-02-06 17:42 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-06 18:23 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:10 ` Charles Anthony
2018-02-05 23:20 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:28 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 23:36 ` Arthur Krewat
2018-02-05 23:52 ` George Michaelson
2018-02-06 14:52 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-02-05 23:18 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2018-02-06 21:51 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-06 23:14 ` Nemo Nusquam
2018-02-06 23:22 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-07 3:03 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07 1:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-07 1:33 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 1:54 ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 18:01 ` Tony Finch [this message]
2018-02-09 2:35 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-07 18:50 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-15 13:23 ` Tim Bradshaw
2018-02-05 0:27 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-02-05 0:41 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-04 9:11 ` Donald ODona
2018-02-04 23:25 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-04 23:46 ` Bakul Shah
2018-02-04 23:58 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-05 0:06 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 5:37 ` Steve Johnson
2018-02-05 5:53 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2018-02-05 10:49 ` Ron Natalie
2018-02-05 6:57 ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-05 15:20 Doug McIlroy
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