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From: rminnich@gmail.com (ron minnich)
Subject: [TUHS] OT: critical Intel design flaw
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:46:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP6exYJUvNuXi1o=wOX+cdkgLx-oDmttJTunzy5zsaMhLxd42g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C30F8795-EBB0-4734-8550-0BE2B77F07F0@bitblocks.com>

The type of kernel is orthogonal to this particular design flaw from what I
know. It's about how page tables are set up for user mode processes. I may
be wrong but pretty much every Unix or Unix-like kernel (including Plan 9)
follows the page table model Windows and Linux use: the ring 0 PTEs are
present in the page table, even in user mode, and we count on the
architecture to prevent ring 3 access to ring 0 memory. This is certainly
the case on all the ones I've worked on.

I don't think a microkernel would save you.

This is not a much ado about nothing case: it's early days and people can
make it work: https://twitter.com/brainsmoke/status/948561799875502080
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-03 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-03 13:43 Noel Chiappa
2018-01-03 14:26 ` Clem Cole
2018-01-03 17:28   ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-03 17:46     ` ron minnich [this message]
2018-01-03 18:28       ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-03 18:27     ` Clem Cole
2018-01-03 18:39       ` Forrest, Jon
2018-01-03 18:50         ` ron minnich
2018-01-03 19:56       ` Paul Winalski
2018-01-03 20:24       ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-03 23:40       ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-04  0:51         ` Larry McVoy
2018-01-04  2:13           ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-04  2:26             ` Larry McVoy
2018-01-04  3:31               ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-04  2:09         ` Arthur Krewat
2018-01-04  3:21           ` Dan Cross
2018-01-04 17:42             ` Arthur Krewat
2018-01-04 11:53         ` Harald Arnesen
2018-01-04 14:03           ` Clem Cole
2018-01-04 15:54             ` Larry McVoy
2018-01-04 16:45             ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-04 17:10               ` Andy Kosela
2018-01-04 17:17               ` Larry McVoy
2018-01-04 18:29                 ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-04 18:50                   ` Larry McVoy
2018-01-04 20:52                     ` Warner Losh
2018-01-04 20:56                       ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-04 20:56                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-04 21:16                     ` Warner Losh
2018-01-04 22:55                       ` Andy Kosela
2018-01-05 14:27                         ` Clem Cole
2018-01-04 21:17                     ` Bakul Shah
2018-01-04 17:20               ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-01-04 17:28                 ` Warner Losh
2018-01-03 17:07 ` Bakul Shah
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-03 17:06 Norman Wilson
2018-01-03  7:53 Andy Kosela
2018-01-03 11:57 ` Ron Natalie
2018-01-03 14:22   ` Random832

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