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From: Clinton Bunch <cdb_zsh@zentaur.org>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zsh/random module
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 07:57:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b2cafe6-b4b5-c59a-11f3-4dbc1e99e2bc@zentaur.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41205a86-8aad-4821-baa4-1d2ac9bf3c5d@app.fastmail.com>

On 11/4/2022 2:27 AM, dana wrote:
> On Fri 4 Nov 2022, at 01:22, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> Then why would you use the builtin in preference to the parameter SRANDOM?
> I guess the main reason would be for the bounds functionality
I suppose that's true.  It may be worth looking at making the default 1 
except in raw and hex-string mode, though that would be harder to 
explain in the documentation, I think.
>
> On Fri 4 Nov 2022, at 01:22, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> Copied that pattern straight out of Src/Modules/datetime.c
> TIL. I also lied about sysread, it does the same. print/printf, zparseopts,
> and zstyle don't. Can't think of anything else off the top of my head rn
>
> On Fri 4 Nov 2022, at 01:22, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> Trying to think how to design tests when the output is different every
>> time by design.
> If nothing else it could just make sure it's in the expected format
>
> On Fri 4 Nov 2022, at 01:22, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> And I can't think what a completion function would
>> complete.  It's not like it's using long options or enumerated arguments.
> Most of zsh's built-ins have no long options but they still have completion
> functions. Some people use completion as a substitute for the documentation.
> Attached _getrandom for your consideration (assumes no further changes, tested
> very minimally)
>
> btw, in writing that function i realised a few things:
>
> * In the documentation, i think the default upper bound should be 4294967295
>    rather than 4294967296
Wanted to put UINT32_MAX, but didn't think Yodl would translate that :)
>
> * Why is the maximum length 64? Also, should that value be documented?
The getrandom() function itself is only guaranteed to return 256 bytes. 
64 32-bit integers.  And it should definitely be documented, I thought I 
had.
>
> * If you put -i after -L/-U it overrides their effect. Maybe the
>    `if (integer_out)` in the code should be an `else if` instead?
That definitely isn't intended behavior.  Specifying both is redundant, 
but bounds should definitely take precedence.
>
> * It appears that -L is inclusive but -U is exclusive. e.g. if you do
>    `getrandom -l1 -L2 -U3` it will only ever return 2. I assume that's not
>    intentional?
When (after I posted, of course), I realized that the algorithm I used 
from arc4random_uniform would never return the upper bound, I began to 
debate whether to try to make it inclusive, handling the pathological 
cases, or documenting it.
>
> On Fri 4 Nov 2022, at 01:22, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> It still seems weird that the dev guide specifies mixing the two.
> I agree
>
> dana
>
>
> diff --git a/Completion/Zsh/Command/_getrandom b/Completion/Zsh/Command/_getrandom
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000..3513e10b7
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Completion/Zsh/Command/_getrandom
> @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
> +#compdef getrandom
> +
> +local min=0 max=$(( 2 ** 32 - 1 ))
> +
> +_arguments -s -S : \
> +  '(-r -s)-a+[assign result to specified array parameter]:array parameter:_parameters -g "*array*~*readonly*"' \
> +  '(-a)-s+[assign result to specified scalar parameter]:scalar parameter:_parameters -g "*(integer|scalar)*~*readonly*"' \
> +  '(-r)-i[produce random data as 32-bit unsigned integers]' \
> +  '-l+[specify length of data]: :_numbers -d8 -l1 -m64 -u "bytes or integer elements" "data length"' \
> +  '(-i -L -U)-r[produce random data as raw bytes]' \
> +  '(-r)-L+[specify integer lower bound (implies -i)]: :_numbers -d$min -l$min -m$max "integer lower bound"' \
> +  '(-r)-U+[specify integer upper bound (implies -i)]: :_numbers -d$max -l$min -m$max "integer upper bound"'
>



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-04 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02 17:13 Clinton Bunch
2022-11-03 17:50 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-04  3:17 ` dana
2022-11-04  6:22   ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-04  7:27     ` dana
2022-11-04 12:57       ` Clinton Bunch [this message]
2022-11-08  0:18         ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 14:30           ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-19  6:42             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-18 16:23           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 17:08             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 18:12               ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 18:38                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:52                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24 16:19                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-24 16:30                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-24 22:39                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-25  8:53                           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-25  9:40                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-28 16:37                               ` further discussion of zsh/random (was [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED]) Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  1:07           ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  1:59             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  2:21               ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  2:57                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  3:14                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-21  4:17                     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-21  5:05                       ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-22 13:42                         ` dana
2022-11-23 19:49                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-22 17:44                       ` Oliver Kiddle
2022-11-22 19:48                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  1:23                   ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23  2:58                     ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  4:14                       ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23 13:41                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 20:33                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-23 21:42                             ` dana
2022-11-23 23:54                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  0:17                                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  1:05                                 ` dana
2022-11-24 13:52                               ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:46           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  2:58             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 10:07               ` nimaje+zml
2022-11-24 13:19                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 14:33             ` Clinton Bunch

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