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From: smiley@zenzebra.mv.com
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: [9fans] spaces in filenames
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:08:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ipu0evi2.fsf@cmarib.ramside> (raw)

Hi,

>From time to time, the issue of having spaces in file names seems to
come up on this list, mostly in the context of discussions on find, du,
Acme, and trfs(4).  All the discussions I've found suggest that file
names with whitespace in them are *legal* on fossil.  I'm running a
9atom 9pcf kernel copied verbatim from the 9atom .iso, on an otherwise
stock Plan 9 4e fossil+venti install.  However, I can't seem to create
files with with spaces in their names.  The resulting error string
reports invalid characters in the file name.  Why doesn't this work?
Has the ability to have spaces in file names been removed from fossil?
If so, then how is it possible that there are files such as
'/n/sources/contrib/steve/file with spaces' hanging around?

While I'm perfectly happy using underscores in lieu of spaces in *my*
file names, there are a number of APE packages (i.e., fgb/lcms)
containing files with spaces in their names.  Since those are the names
used in replica(1), I'm unable to contrib/install(1) any of these
packages.  Are there any known fixes or workarounds for this problem?
(I doubt trfs(4) would help, because the ape would still be naming the
file with spaces, unless specifically modified to match the trfs(4)
translation.)

What's the theory behind excluding whitespace from filenames?  Was it
causing too much discussion on the list?  ;) Since Plan 9 was a total
re-think of Unix, I have to wonder why this problem wasn't fixed.  If
Plan 9 used 0x00 (NUL) as the record separator (instead of newline),
many of these types of problems could be averted.  Why don't we?

Also, if anyone knows where I can find 9fans archives prior to March
2008, please let me know.  The archives I was able to find only go back
that far.

Also, quanstro, would you whitelist me?  I can't seem to get mail to you
off-list.  Thanks!

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             reply	other threads:[~2011-04-26 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 179+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26 18:08 smiley [this message]
2011-04-26 18:42 ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 18:44   ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-26 18:52   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-26 19:31     ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 19:35       ` Paul Lalonde
2011-04-27 13:10       ` Digby Tarvin
2011-04-27 13:16         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-27 13:21         ` Steve Simon
2011-04-28  9:58           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-04-28 12:11             ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 12:35               ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) dexen deVries
2011-04-28 13:42                 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and Richard Miller
2011-04-28 14:00                 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:13                   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 15:35                     ` [9fans] portable filesystem smiley
2011-04-28 15:38                     ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:18                   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:30               ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 14:00                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 15:06                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 15:17                     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 19:17                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30  1:09                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30  2:50                           ` smiley
2011-04-30  2:55                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-26 18:43 ` [9fans] spaces in filenames erik quanstrom
2011-04-27  2:30   ` smiley
2011-04-27  2:39     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 15:10       ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: " smiley
2011-04-28 15:30         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 16:16           ` smiley
2011-04-28 16:21             ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 17:23               ` smiley
2011-04-28 17:35                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-28 18:20                   ` ron minnich
2011-04-28 18:50                     ` Brian L. Stuart
2011-04-28 19:19                       ` Jeff Sickel
2011-04-28 19:29                       ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 19:39                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  2:00                           ` errno
2011-04-29  3:03                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  6:11                               ` errno
2011-04-29  6:34                                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29  9:18                               ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29  9:12                                 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29  9:44                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29  9:44                                   ` tlaronde
2011-04-29  9:54                                     ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:56                                       ` Jeff Sickel
2011-05-05  9:54                                         ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-08 18:27                                           ` tlaronde
2011-05-08 20:51                                             ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2011-05-09 16:54                                               ` tlaronde
2011-05-09 17:10                                                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10  8:34                                                   ` hiro
2011-05-10 12:27                                                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-13  8:40                                                       ` Akshat Kumar
2011-05-13 10:14                                                         ` hiro
2011-05-13 13:30                                                         ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 13:47                                                     ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-12 18:40                                                       ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 17:56                                                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-12 22:22                                                       ` hiro
2011-05-10 21:47                                                     ` John Floren
2011-05-08 21:34                                             ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-09  4:53                                             ` Lucio De Re
2011-04-29  3:11                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29  5:27                             ` ron minnich
2011-04-29  9:04                               ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29 10:19                                 ` errno
2011-04-29 12:21                                   ` Jacob Todd
2011-04-30  4:05                                     ` errno
2011-04-30  4:22                                       ` errno
2011-04-30  6:26                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2011-04-30  8:16                                         ` errno
2011-04-30  8:25                                           ` Steve Simon
2011-04-30  9:48                                             ` errno
2011-05-05  9:55                                             ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-30 12:18                                           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30 22:21                                           ` smiley
2011-04-30 23:20                                             ` errno
2011-04-30 23:33                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01  0:12                                                 ` errno
2011-05-01  0:16                                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01 23:56                                           ` blstuart
2011-05-02  0:00                                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  1:42                                             ` errno
2011-05-02  1:44                                               ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  2:29                                                 ` errno
2011-05-02  2:38                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  3:11                                                     ` errno
2011-05-02  3:15                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  4:09                                                         ` errno
2011-05-02  3:39                                                       ` ron minnich
2011-05-02  4:05                                                         ` Steve Simon
2011-05-02 10:38                                                   ` Salman Aljammaz
2011-05-02 11:46                                                     ` errno
2011-05-02 16:29                                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 16:48                                                         ` dexen deVries
2011-05-02 11:51                                                     ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 13:54                                           ` Jack Norton
2011-05-02 14:45                                             ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-02 16:16                                             ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-05 12:33                                           ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:48                                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06  4:23                                             ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06  4:35                                               ` ron minnich
2011-05-06  6:45                                                 ` errno
2011-05-06  7:08                                                   ` ron minnich
2011-05-06  7:35                                                     ` errno
2011-05-06 15:45                                                     ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 15:59                                                       ` John Floren
2011-05-06 16:47                                                         ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 16:11                                                       ` tlaronde
2011-05-06 12:07                                                   ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06 16:07                                                     ` [9fans] freedom (was Re: Compiling 9atom kernel) errno
2011-05-06 16:29                                                       ` Jack Norton
2011-05-06 17:38                                                         ` errno
2011-05-07  0:06                                                       ` errno
2011-05-07  5:01                                                       ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-07  7:36                                                         ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-16 15:02                                                         ` Steve Simon
2011-05-06  7:08                                                 ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames errno
2011-05-06  7:11                                                   ` ron minnich
2011-05-06 12:59                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 16:06                                                     ` errno
2011-05-06 17:30                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 22:32                                                     ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 22:57                                                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-06 23:18                                                       ` errno
2011-05-06 23:49                                                         ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 23:47                                                       ` errno
2011-05-06 23:56                                                         ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-07  0:22                                                           ` errno
2011-05-07  0:12                                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-07  0:43                                                           ` errno
2011-05-06 13:15                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30 22:34                                         ` smiley
2011-04-30 22:45                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01  6:54                                             ` dexen deVries
2011-05-05 12:33                                           ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:54                                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-05 20:30                                               ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-05 21:22                                                 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-05-06  5:20                                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-06  7:02                                                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-06  7:06                                                     ` errno
2011-05-05  9:55                                       ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-04 11:40                                     ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-29 12:32                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 18:39                                   ` Iruatã Souza
2011-04-29  6:06                             ` Bakul Shah
2011-04-28 20:50                         ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-04 11:40                       ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-04 11:56                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 18:33                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  4:31                   ` smiley
2011-04-29  4:35                     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 19:27                 ` Charles Forsyth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-03 12:42 [9fans] " presotto
2002-06-01 22:17 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 22:25 ` William Josephson
2002-06-03 10:06 ` Axel Belinfante
2002-06-01 22:16 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 14:55 Richard Miller
2002-06-01 14:16 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 14:15 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 14:10 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 14:38 ` William Josephson
2002-06-01 14:01 Russ Cox
2002-06-01 13:55 Richard Miller
2002-06-01 14:05 ` William Josephson
2002-06-01 13:15   ` Sam
2002-06-01 13:46 Russ Cox
2002-06-01  5:02 Geoff Collyer
2002-06-01 13:41 ` Michael Baldwin
2002-06-01  3:35 Michael Baldwin
2002-06-01 16:54 ` Digby Tarvin

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