From: errno <errno@cox.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:00:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201104281900.49188.errno@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <151642bd973805f800c84233b4e6f35e@ladd.quanstro.net>
On Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:39:07 PM erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Thu Apr 28 15:30:38 EDT 2011, dexen.devries@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 of April 2011 20:50:14 Brian L. Stuart wrote: > Life is
> > too short to configure and compile Linux and > GNU software.
> >
> > or spending days on choosing a computer with all the hardware
> > supported. oh wait.
>
> that's not how you do it. you spend about the normal amount
> of time checking, and then when you get the machine you fix
> what's left. :-)
>
> i've just configured an new xeon 1155, which has had a nic
> that wasn't quite supported (pch2 lan + 82579 phy), and a
> wierd lapic/ioapic configuration.
>
> all told, it was only about a day to get it working.
>
> now i could have spend that amount of time with an os that might
> have supported everything out-of-the-box, but it's doubtful that i'd
> have it even configured yet.
>
I'd be more excited about quick compile times on plan 9 when
I can use plan 9 to check my bank account, watch youtube
videos, and order movie tickets or pizza over the web. But I
still need a loonix box to do those things, so I still need to
suffer the horrors of glibc[1] and ~760M kernel sources - which
is unfortunate.
I understand why plan 9 avoids posix and unix and gtk+ and
the gnu toolchain - or flash, or firefox, etc., etc. - but it would
be nice if it had fuller, more complete support for "the web".
I wish AWE would manifest. APE - "a posix environment" vs.
AWE - "a web(kit) environment". Alas, if wishes were fishes...
(we'd all be rich fishermen).
Though I don't understand why folks around here complain about
"linux" so often and so vehemently, when the only reason why you're
complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things
you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your organization.
[1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out
musl libc. It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely "less worse" than glibc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-29 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-26 18:08 [9fans] " smiley
2011-04-26 18:42 ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 18:44 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-26 18:52 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-26 19:31 ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 19:35 ` Paul Lalonde
2011-04-27 13:10 ` Digby Tarvin
2011-04-27 13:16 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-27 13:21 ` Steve Simon
2011-04-28 9:58 ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-04-28 12:11 ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 12:35 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) dexen deVries
2011-04-28 13:42 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and Richard Miller
2011-04-28 14:00 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:13 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 15:35 ` [9fans] portable filesystem smiley
2011-04-28 15:38 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:18 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:30 ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 14:00 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 15:06 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 15:17 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 19:17 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30 1:09 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30 2:50 ` smiley
2011-04-30 2:55 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-26 18:43 ` [9fans] spaces in filenames erik quanstrom
2011-04-27 2:30 ` smiley
2011-04-27 2:39 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 15:10 ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: " smiley
2011-04-28 15:30 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 16:16 ` smiley
2011-04-28 16:21 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 17:23 ` smiley
2011-04-28 17:35 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-28 18:20 ` ron minnich
2011-04-28 18:50 ` Brian L. Stuart
2011-04-28 19:19 ` Jeff Sickel
2011-04-28 19:29 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 19:39 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 2:00 ` errno [this message]
2011-04-29 3:03 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 6:11 ` errno
2011-04-29 6:34 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29 9:18 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29 9:12 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 9:44 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29 9:44 ` tlaronde
2011-04-29 9:54 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:56 ` Jeff Sickel
2011-05-05 9:54 ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-08 18:27 ` tlaronde
2011-05-08 20:51 ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2011-05-09 16:54 ` tlaronde
2011-05-09 17:10 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 8:34 ` hiro
2011-05-10 12:27 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-13 8:40 ` Akshat Kumar
2011-05-13 10:14 ` hiro
2011-05-13 13:30 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 13:47 ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-12 18:40 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 17:56 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-12 22:22 ` hiro
2011-05-10 21:47 ` John Floren
2011-05-08 21:34 ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-09 4:53 ` Lucio De Re
2011-04-29 3:11 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29 5:27 ` ron minnich
2011-04-29 9:04 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29 10:19 ` errno
2011-04-29 12:21 ` Jacob Todd
2011-04-30 4:05 ` errno
2011-04-30 4:22 ` errno
2011-04-30 6:26 ` Anthony Sorace
2011-04-30 8:16 ` errno
2011-04-30 8:25 ` Steve Simon
2011-04-30 9:48 ` errno
2011-05-05 9:55 ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-30 12:18 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30 22:21 ` smiley
2011-04-30 23:20 ` errno
2011-04-30 23:33 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01 0:12 ` errno
2011-05-01 0:16 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01 23:56 ` blstuart
2011-05-02 0:00 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02 1:42 ` errno
2011-05-02 1:44 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02 2:29 ` errno
2011-05-02 2:38 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02 3:11 ` errno
2011-05-02 3:15 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02 4:09 ` errno
2011-05-02 3:39 ` ron minnich
2011-05-02 4:05 ` Steve Simon
2011-05-02 10:38 ` Salman Aljammaz
2011-05-02 11:46 ` errno
2011-05-02 16:29 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 16:48 ` dexen deVries
2011-05-02 11:51 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 13:54 ` Jack Norton
2011-05-02 14:45 ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-02 16:16 ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-05 12:33 ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:48 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 4:23 ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06 4:35 ` ron minnich
2011-05-06 6:45 ` errno
2011-05-06 7:08 ` ron minnich
2011-05-06 7:35 ` errno
2011-05-06 15:45 ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 15:59 ` John Floren
2011-05-06 16:47 ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 16:11 ` tlaronde
2011-05-06 12:07 ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06 16:07 ` [9fans] freedom (was Re: Compiling 9atom kernel) errno
2011-05-06 16:29 ` Jack Norton
2011-05-06 17:38 ` errno
2011-05-07 0:06 ` errno
2011-05-07 5:01 ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-07 7:36 ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-16 15:02 ` Steve Simon
2011-05-06 7:08 ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames errno
2011-05-06 7:11 ` ron minnich
2011-05-06 12:59 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 16:06 ` errno
2011-05-06 17:30 ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 22:32 ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 22:57 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-06 23:18 ` errno
2011-05-06 23:49 ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 23:47 ` errno
2011-05-06 23:56 ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-07 0:22 ` errno
2011-05-07 0:12 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-07 0:43 ` errno
2011-05-06 13:15 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30 22:34 ` smiley
2011-04-30 22:45 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01 6:54 ` dexen deVries
2011-05-05 12:33 ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:54 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-05 20:30 ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-05 21:22 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-05-06 5:20 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-06 7:02 ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-06 7:06 ` errno
2011-05-05 9:55 ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-04 11:40 ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-29 12:32 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 18:39 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-04-29 6:06 ` Bakul Shah
2011-04-28 20:50 ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-04 11:40 ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-04 11:56 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 18:33 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 4:31 ` smiley
2011-04-29 4:35 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 19:27 ` Charles Forsyth
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