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From: comeau@panix.com (Greg Comeau)
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames
Date: Wed,  4 May 2011 11:40:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ipfnrh$ohk$1@panix2.panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinVErOPxQtOB3ObJHYWtngu1XQ0-A@mail.gmail.com>

In article <BANLkTinVErOPxQtOB3ObJHYWtngu1XQ0-A@mail.gmail.com>,
Jacob Todd <jaketodd422@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 29, 2011 6:21 AM, "errno" <errno@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Friday, April 29, 2011 02:18:26 AM Charles Forsyth wrote:
>> > > complaining is because you _need_ linux... to furnish all the things
>> > > you can't do with plan 9 - either personally, or within your
>> > > organization.
>> >
>> > it's true, but at least i haven't got to run either Windows or MacOS.
>> > the underlying problem is that the things we might simply import (mainly
>> > browser) can't simply be imported. it's not just us: you might have
>> > noticed that Google's Picasaweb runs under Linux by including a copy of
>> > Wine as part of its iceberg. also google in any alternative-os list you
>> > like for a discussion of the hopelessness of ./configure
>>
>Afaik, google has been distributing picasa with wine for years, it doesn't
>act like an intermediate solution, it seems told be their solution.
>
>> Icebergs are justified when used as a temporary stop-gap until a native
>> solution is devised and implemented.  Thus, a webkit environment ("AWE")
>> seems like a pretty decent compromise until Plan 9 is finally able to
>> treat the wild wild web like a first-class citizen.
>
>Seeing that plan 9 doesn't have a c++ compiler, i doubt it will ever be
>ported.

Let's assume that's so and will always be so.  Here, we're always
"switching" between mostly MacOS and Windows (used to be LINUX
and Windows).  It's annoying, and yes it often means icebergs,
but we find we'd rather have/take them than nothing, even in the face
of it "being imperfect" or less optimal compromises.  And often,
it's even the thing that makes sense, since, it might just mean
morphing an iceberg (or whatever it is) to another iceberg
(or whatever it is).
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-04 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-26 18:08 [9fans] " smiley
2011-04-26 18:42 ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 18:44   ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-26 18:52   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-26 19:31     ` Rob Pike
2011-04-26 19:35       ` Paul Lalonde
2011-04-27 13:10       ` Digby Tarvin
2011-04-27 13:16         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-27 13:21         ` Steve Simon
2011-04-28  9:58           ` Peter A. Cejchan
2011-04-28 12:11             ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 12:35               ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) dexen deVries
2011-04-28 13:42                 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and Richard Miller
2011-04-28 14:00                 ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:13                   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 15:35                     ` [9fans] portable filesystem smiley
2011-04-28 15:38                     ` [9fans] portable filesystem (was: spaces in filenames (and filesystems...)) Digby Tarvin
2011-04-28 14:18                   ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:30               ` [9fans] spaces in filenames (and filesystems...) Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 14:00                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 15:06                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-29 15:17                     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 19:17                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30  1:09                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30  2:50                           ` smiley
2011-04-30  2:55                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-26 18:43 ` [9fans] spaces in filenames erik quanstrom
2011-04-27  2:30   ` smiley
2011-04-27  2:39     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 15:10       ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: " smiley
2011-04-28 15:30         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 16:16           ` smiley
2011-04-28 16:21             ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 17:23               ` smiley
2011-04-28 17:35                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-28 18:20                   ` ron minnich
2011-04-28 18:50                     ` Brian L. Stuart
2011-04-28 19:19                       ` Jeff Sickel
2011-04-28 19:29                       ` dexen deVries
2011-04-28 19:39                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  2:00                           ` errno
2011-04-29  3:03                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  6:11                               ` errno
2011-04-29  6:34                                 ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29  9:18                               ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29  9:12                                 ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29  9:44                                   ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29  9:44                                   ` tlaronde
2011-04-29  9:54                                     ` dexen deVries
2011-04-29 13:56                                       ` Jeff Sickel
2011-05-05  9:54                                         ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-08 18:27                                           ` tlaronde
2011-05-08 20:51                                             ` Mathieu Lonjaret
2011-05-09 16:54                                               ` tlaronde
2011-05-09 17:10                                                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10  8:34                                                   ` hiro
2011-05-10 12:27                                                     ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-13  8:40                                                       ` Akshat Kumar
2011-05-13 10:14                                                         ` hiro
2011-05-13 13:30                                                         ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 13:47                                                     ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-12 18:40                                                       ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-10 17:56                                                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2011-05-12 22:22                                                       ` hiro
2011-05-10 21:47                                                     ` John Floren
2011-05-08 21:34                                             ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-09  4:53                                             ` Lucio De Re
2011-04-29  3:11                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-04-29  5:27                             ` ron minnich
2011-04-29  9:04                               ` Charles Forsyth
2011-04-29 10:19                                 ` errno
2011-04-29 12:21                                   ` Jacob Todd
2011-04-30  4:05                                     ` errno
2011-04-30  4:22                                       ` errno
2011-04-30  6:26                                       ` Anthony Sorace
2011-04-30  8:16                                         ` errno
2011-04-30  8:25                                           ` Steve Simon
2011-04-30  9:48                                             ` errno
2011-05-05  9:55                                             ` Greg Comeau
2011-04-30 12:18                                           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2011-04-30 22:21                                           ` smiley
2011-04-30 23:20                                             ` errno
2011-04-30 23:33                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01  0:12                                                 ` errno
2011-05-01  0:16                                                   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01 23:56                                           ` blstuart
2011-05-02  0:00                                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  1:42                                             ` errno
2011-05-02  1:44                                               ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  2:29                                                 ` errno
2011-05-02  2:38                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  3:11                                                     ` errno
2011-05-02  3:15                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-02  4:09                                                         ` errno
2011-05-02  3:39                                                       ` ron minnich
2011-05-02  4:05                                                         ` Steve Simon
2011-05-02 10:38                                                   ` Salman Aljammaz
2011-05-02 11:46                                                     ` errno
2011-05-02 16:29                                                       ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 16:48                                                         ` dexen deVries
2011-05-02 11:51                                                     ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-02 13:54                                           ` Jack Norton
2011-05-02 14:45                                             ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-02 16:16                                             ` Charles Forsyth
2011-05-05 12:33                                           ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:48                                             ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06  4:23                                             ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06  4:35                                               ` ron minnich
2011-05-06  6:45                                                 ` errno
2011-05-06  7:08                                                   ` ron minnich
2011-05-06  7:35                                                     ` errno
2011-05-06 15:45                                                     ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 15:59                                                       ` John Floren
2011-05-06 16:47                                                         ` Bakul Shah
2011-05-06 16:11                                                       ` tlaronde
2011-05-06 12:07                                                   ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-06 16:07                                                     ` [9fans] freedom (was Re: Compiling 9atom kernel) errno
2011-05-06 16:29                                                       ` Jack Norton
2011-05-06 17:38                                                         ` errno
2011-05-07  0:06                                                       ` errno
2011-05-07  5:01                                                       ` Lucio De Re
2011-05-07  7:36                                                         ` Daniel Lyons
2011-05-16 15:02                                                         ` Steve Simon
2011-05-06  7:08                                                 ` [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames errno
2011-05-06  7:11                                                   ` ron minnich
2011-05-06 12:59                                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 16:06                                                     ` errno
2011-05-06 17:30                                                       ` erik quanstrom
2011-05-06 22:32                                                     ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 22:57                                                       ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-06 23:18                                                       ` errno
2011-05-06 23:49                                                         ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-06 23:47                                                       ` errno
2011-05-06 23:56                                                         ` Comeau At9Fans
2011-05-07  0:22                                                           ` errno
2011-05-07  0:12                                                         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-07  0:43                                                           ` errno
2011-05-06 13:15                                                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-30 22:34                                         ` smiley
2011-04-30 22:45                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2011-05-01  6:54                                             ` dexen deVries
2011-05-05 12:33                                           ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-05 12:54                                             ` andrey mirtchovski
2011-05-05 20:30                                               ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-05 21:22                                                 ` Iruatã Souza
2011-05-06  5:20                                                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2011-05-06  7:02                                                     ` Gorka Guardiola
2011-05-06  7:06                                                     ` errno
2011-05-05  9:55                                       ` Greg Comeau
2011-05-04 11:40                                     ` Greg Comeau [this message]
2011-04-29 12:32                                   ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29 18:39                                   ` Iruatã Souza
2011-04-29  6:06                             ` Bakul Shah
2011-04-28 20:50                         ` Anthony Sorace
2011-05-04 11:40                       ` Balwinder S Dheeman
2011-05-04 11:56                         ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 18:33                 ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-29  4:31                   ` smiley
2011-04-29  4:35                     ` erik quanstrom
2011-04-28 19:27                 ` Charles Forsyth

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