Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

[Edouard Klein <edou@rdklein.fr>]

I, for one, will attend, barring any incident.
I will send my submission in a frenzy panic minutes before the deadline,
as one usually does.

"Don A. Bailey" <don.bailey@gmail.com> writes:

> Last I checked (you) were asking for people to sign up. What’s the actual attendee count at this point?
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2024, at 5:33 PM, ori@eigenstate.org wrote:
>>
>> Also: We're organizing IWP9 largely as a forum
>> for folks like you to figure out how to make this
>> all happen; there's going to be plenty of time
>> between talks as well as hacking days to figure
>> out what code needs to be written, what patches
>> exist in people's local trees, plenty of napkins
>> (and, if you're lucky, whiteboards) to figure out
>> designs, and even get a head start on it.
>>
>> Considering submitting some WIP or opinion papers
>> on the details of how you plan to accomplish this.
>>
>> Quoth vic.thacker@fastmail.fm:
>>> Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly aware
>>> of the unique position this operating system holds in the world of
>>> distributed computing. Its influence on modern computing paradigms is
>>> undeniable. In the spirit of continuing this legacy, the prospect of Plan 9
>>> Release 5 beckons, offering a pathway to not just preserve but also enhance
>>> our beloved system. This essay aims to articulate the rationale for Plan 9
>>> Release 5, focusing on the need for modernization, the potential for
>>> innovation, and the practical considerations that align with our shared
>>> passions and expertise.
>>>
>>> The Need for Modernization
>>>
>>> Technological Evolution:
>>> We've all witnessed the dramatic shifts in technology since Plan 9's last
>>> iteration. To keep Plan 9 at the forefront of utility and innovation, it's
>>> essential to adapt and update our system in line with the latest advancements
>>> in hardware, networking, and programming languages. This evolution is crucial
>>> to ensure that Plan 9 remains an indispensable tool in our modern tech
>>> toolkit.
>>>
>>> Security Enhancements:
>>> In our ever-connected world, the sophistication of cyber threats is a reality
>>> we cannot ignore. It is imperative that Plan 9 evolves to include
>>> cutting-edge security protocols, safeguarding our systems and the unique work
>>> we do from emerging cyber risks.
>>>
>>> Hardware Compatibility:
>>> The advent of new hardware architectures is an exciting challenge for us.
>>> Updating Plan 9 to support these new platforms means not only preserving its
>>> usability but also expanding our horizons to new forms of computing,
>>> something we, as 9fans, have always embraced.
>>>
>>> Fostering Innovation
>>>
>>> Research and Education:
>>> Plan 9’s novel approach to system design and distributed computing has always
>>> been a beacon for academic research and education. A new release would
>>> re-energize our academic endeavors, offering a modern platform for continued
>>> exploration and learning, pushing the boundaries of what we can achieve with
>>> Plan 9.
>>>
>>> Community Engagement:
>>> A new version of Plan 9 stands to reinvigorate our community. This is an
>>> opportunity to deepen our engagement, attract new talent, and foster a richer
>>> ecosystem around our shared passion. The development of Plan 9 Release 5
>>> could be a rallying point for our community, sparking new collaborations and
>>> innovations.
>>>
>>> Showcasing Plan 9’s Potential:
>>> Plan 9 Release 5 would be a powerful statement of our system's capabilities,
>>> especially in burgeoning fields like cloud computing, IoT, and distributed
>>> systems. This is our chance to demonstrate the adaptability and
>>> forward-thinking design of Plan 9 to the wider world.
>>>
>>> Practical Considerations
>>>
>>> Resource Allocation:
>>> We understand the importance of efficient resource management in bringing
>>> Plan 9 Release 5 to fruition. This means tapping into our collective
>>> knowledge, drawing on community contributions, and possibly exploring new
>>> partnerships or funding avenues.
>>>
>>> Backward Compatibility:
>>> Maintaining backward compatibility is essential to honor our past work and
>>> ensure a smooth transition. We must respect the legacy of Plan 9 while
>>> charting a course for its future.
>>>
>>> Documentation and Support:
>>> Enhanced documentation and support are crucial for the success of this new
>>> release. As a community, we can collaborate to create resources that will aid
>>> in adoption and usability, ensuring Plan 9 Release 5 becomes a tool we can
>>> all be proud of.
>>>
>>> Conclusion
>>>
>>> The creation of Plan 9 Release 5 is more than a technological update; it’s a
>>> reaffirmation of our commitment to a system that has long been at the
>>> vanguard of computing innovation. This initiative is a step towards ensuring
>>> Plan 9's continued relevance, security, and functionality in the modern era.
>>> It's an opportunity to broaden its impact in the realms of research,
>>> education, and beyond. As 9fans, we have the passion, the knowledge, and the
>>> community to make this a reality, honoring the legacy of Plan 9 while shaping
>>> its future. Let's embark on this journey together, shaping the next chapter
>>> in the Plan 9 story.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for dedicating your time and attention.
>>> --vic
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, at 05:48, Jacob Moody wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/24 14:28, Michael Grunditz wrote:
>>>>> I have looked at the reform code and I like how it is done. I think that it
>>>>> would be easy to use for porting 9legacy or in fact any system. But it is
>>>>> more work than a recompile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> It is certainly not drag and drop. Getting the arm64 compiler and
>>>> linker working on
>>>> 9legacy is already not what I would consider trivial due to drift in
>>>> /sys/src/cmd/cc.
>>>> So yes if you have enough understanding on how to work with and debug
>>>> the compiler, the linker, and
>>>> the kernel then perhaps you could call it "easy". I'll believe it when
>>>> I see it.
>>>>

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