Re[2]: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was: Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

["Alexandr Babic" <alexandr@babicovi.cz>]

hello from czechia.

make plan9 not war :-)

there are many un*xes, so we can have many distros of plan9 :-)
i have 9front, original plan9 in my virtual machines so i think there's really no problem.
and anyone can become creator of new distro and use any code he wants :-)

i was thinking about my own czech distro named "TATRAPLAN9", long time ago there was czech automobile called TATRAPLAN :-)

so keep it peaceful here :-)

alex@plan9.cz
 
----- Původní zpráva -----
Odesilatel: Michael Misch (michaelmisch1985@gmail.com)
Datum: 01/25/24 19:16
Příjemce: 9fans (9fans@9fans.net)
Předmět: Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

This is incredibly rude and tone-deaf. Your convictions aside, dismissing an opinion like this is simply stonewalling, and quite frankly obliterated whatever respect I may have started to develop for you.

> On Jan 25, 2024, at 08:44, Don Bailey <don.bailey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what all this was, so I didn't read most of it.
>
> If 9front becomes the "mainline" 9, I will stop using 9 altogether. Both as a user and a developer.
>
> I trust the sources that come from 9legacy/9pio but I don't have any interest in the mess of whatever 9front is supposed to be.
>
> D
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 11:40 AM hiro via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> > I am not a fan of the weird 9front split from the standard repo. I’d prefer the sources to be managed by the foundation and would like to only receive patches through them.
>
> Are you speaking as part of the foundation? As a developer? Or as a User?
>
> Me, as a user, I would also appreciate if the foundation (or the real
> bell-labs unix room heritage, before the foundation existed) would
> "manage" something. for example  development and continuous hosting of
> the sources server. This doesn't seem to be the case.
>
> I also would appreciate the making available of patches by the
> foundation. I have no clue where their codebase is moving in the last
> few years as there was no single commit (or even simple patch via
> email) received from them.
>
> I think the reason the 9front repo is continuing to stay split "off"
> is because the bell-labs servers have all been shut down. As a result
> the community has stepped in to donate their own time, money, server
> resources, sweat and blood, etc. to keep a usable plan 9 version and
> community (that is willing to stay patches) alive.
>
> It is extremely unfortunate, but the pressure behind the freely
> contributed code ended up being stronger than the ability to negotiate
> with the empty halls of bell-labs. So as a result lots of community
> members are able to contribute quite effectively.
>
> To me the legend of what must have been the unix room will always stay
> alive, and I will continue to use it as a benchmark to measure my own
> team's success against. But if I cannot be part of the group of cool
> kids that came out of this, I can at least have my own bell-labs, with
> blackjack and hookers. In my head.
>
> Don, I wish you great technical collaborations. At least this is what
> I have came here for, and have tried to take what caused awe in me and
> keep them alive and infect others with all that. Maybe you can submit
> another patch to sources some day soon.
>
> hiro
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