Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

["hiro via 9fans" <9fans@9fans.net>]

> I am not a fan of the weird 9front split from the standard repo. I’d prefer the sources to be managed by the foundation and would like to only receive patches through them.

Are you speaking as part of the foundation? As a developer? Or as a User?

Me, as a user, I would also appreciate if the foundation (or the real
bell-labs unix room heritage, before the foundation existed) would
"manage" something. for example  development and continuous hosting of
the sources server. This doesn't seem to be the case.

I also would appreciate the making available of patches by the
foundation. I have no clue where their codebase is moving in the last
few years as there was no single commit (or even simple patch via
email) received from them.

I think the reason the 9front repo is continuing to stay split "off"
is because the bell-labs servers have all been shut down. As a result
the community has stepped in to donate their own time, money, server
resources, sweat and blood, etc. to keep a usable plan 9 version and
community (that is willing to stay patches) alive.

It is extremely unfortunate, but the pressure behind the freely
contributed code ended up being stronger than the ability to negotiate
with the empty halls of bell-labs. So as a result lots of community
members are able to contribute quite effectively.

To me the legend of what must have been the unix room will always stay
alive, and I will continue to use it as a benchmark to measure my own
team's success against. But if I cannot be part of the group of cool
kids that came out of this, I can at least have my own bell-labs, with
blackjack and hookers. In my head.

Don, I wish you great technical collaborations. At least this is what
I have came here for, and have tried to take what caused awe in me and
keep them alive and infect others with all that. Maybe you can submit
another patch to sources some day soon.

hiro

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