[9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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Greetings,

Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.

I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.

Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
string" current functionality.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

Blake McBride

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Robert Raschke]

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Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.

If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
default.

No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
you a start.

Robby
 On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>
> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>
> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
> string" current functionality.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake McBride
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Rubén Berenguel]

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A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with
spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This
works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate
solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I
don't remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
follows the same rules as opening a file.

Ruben


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke <rtrlists@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
> filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
>
> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
> default.
>
> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
> you a start.
>
> Robby
>  On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>>
>> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>>
>> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
>> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
>> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
>> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
>> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
>> string" current functionality.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Blake McBride
>>
>>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If you want to
execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole thing and
then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.

When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme loads the file
with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file name with spaces and
then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would be totally
consistent.

It there a reason this hasn't been done?

Thanks.

Blake



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net>wrote:

> A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with
> spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This
> works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate
> solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I
> don't remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
> follows the same rules as opening a file.
>
> Ruben
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke <rtrlists@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
>> filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
>> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
>> default.
>>
>> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
>> you a start.
>>
>> Robby
>>  On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>>>
>>> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>>>
>>> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
>>> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
>>> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>>> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
>>> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
>>> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>>> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
>>> string" current functionality.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Blake McBride
>>>
>>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be
made to load a file or directory with spaces in it?  In other words, would
this conflict with some other intended operation?

Thanks.

Blake



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:

> When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If you want to
> execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole thing and
> then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.
>
> When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme loads the file
> with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file name with spaces and
> then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would be totally
> consistent.
>
> It there a reason this hasn't been done?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel <ruben@mostlymaths.net>wrote:
>
>> A kind of crude workaround is using the whole /Users/whatever/file with
>> spaces, selecting it with first button and 1-2 chording it to Get. This
>> works on Mac, problem is that it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate
>> solution may be to use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I
>> don't remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
>> follows the same rules as opening a file.
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke <rtrlists@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
>>> filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
>>> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
>>> default.
>>>
>>> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But this might give
>>> you a start.
>>>
>>> Robby
>>>  On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>>
>>>> Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>>>>
>>>> I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>>>>
>>>> Within a file list one can right-click a listing in order to decend into
>>>> another directory or load a file.  The problem is that neither work if a
>>>> space is contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>>>> functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An easy fix to this
>>>> would be to allow the user to highlight the entire string (including
>>>> spaces) and then right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>>>> highlight facility to override the "just test for contigous non-space
>>>> string" current functionality.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Blake McBride
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Friedrich Psiorz]

I think the reason is that filenames with spaces are not very common in
Plan 9.
If you're running plumber, you can probably adjust the regular
exressions for file matching in your $HOME/lib/plumbing file.

If you don't have that file yet:
9p read plumb/rules >$HOME/lib/plumbing

~Fritz

Am 15.12.2013 16:25, schrieb Blake McBride:
> Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be
> made to load a file or directory with spaces in it?  In other words,
> would this conflict with some other intended operation?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Blake
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name
> <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>> wrote:
> 
>     When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If you want
>     to execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole
>     thing and then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.
> 
>     When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme loads the
>     file with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file name with
>     spaces and then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would
>     be totally consistent.
> 
>     It there a reason this hasn't been done?
> 
>     Thanks.
> 
>     Blake
> 
> 
> 
>     On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel
>     <ruben@mostlymaths.net <mailto:ruben@mostlymaths.net>> wrote:
> 
>         A kind of crude workaround is using the whole
>         /Users/whatever/file with spaces, selecting it with first button
>         and 1-2 chording it to Get. This works on Mac, problem is that
>         it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate solution may be to
>         use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I don't
>         remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
>         follows the same rules as opening a file.
> 
>         Ruben
> 
> 
>         On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke
>         <rtrlists@googlemail.com <mailto:rtrlists@googlemail.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute
>             spaces in filenames with a different character. When placed
>             between the normal fs and Acme, this would make things work
>             quite nicely.
> 
>             If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno)
>             does that by default.
> 
>             No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But
>             this might give you a start.
> 
>             Robby
> 
>             On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name
>             <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>> wrote:
> 
>                 Greetings,
> 
>                 Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
> 
>                 I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
> 
>                 Within a file list one can right-click a listing in
>                 order to decend into another directory or load a file.
>                  The problem is that neither work if a space is
>                 contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
>                 functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An
>                 easy fix to this would be to allow the user to highlight
>                 the entire string (including spaces) and then
>                 right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>                 highlight facility to override the "just test for
>                 contigous non-space string" current functionality.
> 
>                 Any thoughts on this?
> 
>                 Thanks.
> 
>                 Blake McBride
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules
9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb:
connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file

I don't have to do this when I search for text with spaces, or to execute a
command with spaces.  Not being able to load files or directories with
spaces is, and I mean this in the most respectfull way, short sighted and
inconsistent IMO.  As long as a fix doesn't limit some existing
functionality, I think it should be corrected.  I am qualified to make such
a correction but, not being familiar with the code, I estimate it would
take me a whole day to do.  I'd bet it would take someone famaliar with the
code an hour.  My time, like all of yours, is very limited.  I will make
the change when my time permits.  My hope is that someone more familiar
with the code can make it before then.

Thanks.

Blake



On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de> wrote:

> I think the reason is that filenames with spaces are not very common in
> Plan 9.
> If you're running plumber, you can probably adjust the regular
> exressions for file matching in your $HOME/lib/plumbing file.
>
> If you don't have that file yet:
> 9p read plumb/rules >$HOME/lib/plumbing
>
> ~Fritz
>
> Am 15.12.2013 16:25, schrieb Blake McBride:
> > Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be
> > made to load a file or directory with spaces in it?  In other words,
> > would this conflict with some other intended operation?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Blake
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name
> > <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>> wrote:
> >
> >     When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If you want
> >     to execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole
> >     thing and then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.
> >
> >     When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme loads the
> >     file with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file name with
> >     spaces and then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would
> >     be totally consistent.
> >
> >     It there a reason this hasn't been done?
> >
> >     Thanks.
> >
> >     Blake
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel
> >     <ruben@mostlymaths.net <mailto:ruben@mostlymaths.net>> wrote:
> >
> >         A kind of crude workaround is using the whole
> >         /Users/whatever/file with spaces, selecting it with first button
> >         and 1-2 chording it to Get. This works on Mac, problem is that
> >         it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate solution may be to
> >         use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I don't
> >         remember if piping works with right-button and selected text or
> >         follows the same rules as opening a file.
> >
> >         Ruben
> >
> >
> >         On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke
> >         <rtrlists@googlemail.com <mailto:rtrlists@googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >             Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute
> >             spaces in filenames with a different character. When placed
> >             between the normal fs and Acme, this would make things work
> >             quite nicely.
> >
> >             If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno)
> >             does that by default.
> >
> >             No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But
> >             this might give you a start.
> >
> >             Robby
> >
> >             On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name
> >             <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>> wrote:
> >
> >                 Greetings,
> >
> >                 Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
> >
> >                 I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
> >
> >                 Within a file list one can right-click a listing in
> >                 order to decend into another directory or load a file.
> >                  The problem is that neither work if a space is
> >                 contained within the name.  Apparently, the right-click
> >                 functionality only looks at non-white space strings.  An
> >                 easy fix to this would be to allow the user to highlight
> >                 the entire string (including spaces) and then
> >                 right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
> >                 highlight facility to override the "just test for
> >                 contigous non-space string" current functionality.
> >
> >                 Any thoughts on this?
> >
> >                 Thanks.
> >
> >                 Blake McBride
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Friedrich Psiorz]

To use the plumber, you have to start it first. Then you can configure
all the Button-3 behavior you want. No need to change the hard coded
backup behavior.

Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride:
> Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules
> 9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb:
> connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file 
> 
> I don't have to do this when I search for text with spaces, or to
> execute a command with spaces.  Not being able to load files or
> directories with spaces is, and I mean this in the most respectfull way,
> short sighted and inconsistent IMO.  As long as a fix doesn't limit some
> existing functionality, I think it should be corrected.  I am qualified
> to make such a correction but, not being familiar with the code, I
> estimate it would take me a whole day to do.  I'd bet it would take
> someone famaliar with the code an hour.  My time, like all of yours, is
> very limited.  I will make the change when my time permits.  My hope is
> that someone more familiar with the code can make it before then.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Blake
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de
> <mailto:f.psiorz@gmx.de>> wrote:
> 
>     I think the reason is that filenames with spaces are not very common in
>     Plan 9.
>     If you're running plumber, you can probably adjust the regular
>     exressions for file matching in your $HOME/lib/plumbing file.
> 
>     If you don't have that file yet:
>     9p read plumb/rules >$HOME/lib/plumbing
> 
>     ~Fritz
> 
>     Am 15.12.2013 16:25, schrieb Blake McBride:
>     > Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could
>     not be
>     > made to load a file or directory with spaces in it?  In other words,
>     > would this conflict with some other intended operation?
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Blake
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name
>     <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>
>     > <mailto:blake@mcbride.name <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     When you button-2-click on text acme executes the word.  If
>     you want
>     >     to execute something larger with spaces, you highlight the whole
>     >     thing and then button-2-click on it to execute the whole thing.
>     >
>     >     When you button-3-click on text in a file list buffer acme
>     loads the
>     >     file with that name.  I should be able to highlight a file
>     name with
>     >     spaces and then button-3-click on it to load the file.  This would
>     >     be totally consistent.
>     >
>     >     It there a reason this hasn't been done?
>     >
>     >     Thanks.
>     >
>     >     Blake
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rubén Berenguel
>     >     <ruben@mostlymaths.net <mailto:ruben@mostlymaths.net>
>     <mailto:ruben@mostlymaths.net <mailto:ruben@mostlymaths.net>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         A kind of crude workaround is using the whole
>     >         /Users/whatever/file with spaces, selecting it with first
>     button
>     >         and 1-2 chording it to Get. This works on Mac, problem is that
>     >         it's quite horrible to do. An intermediate solution may be to
>     >         use some piping rule like sp:filename with spaces, but I don't
>     >         remember if piping works with right-button and selected
>     text or
>     >         follows the same rules as opening a file.
>     >
>     >         Ruben
>     >
>     >
>     >         On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Robert Raschke
>     >         <rtrlists@googlemail.com <mailto:rtrlists@googlemail.com>
>     <mailto:rtrlists@googlemail.com <mailto:rtrlists@googlemail.com>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >             Someone once made a little filesystem that would
>     substitute
>     >             spaces in filenames with a different character. When
>     placed
>     >             between the normal fs and Acme, this would make things
>     work
>     >             quite nicely.
>     >
>     >             If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of
>     Inferno)
>     >             does that by default.
>     >
>     >             No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac though. But
>     >             this might give you a start.
>     >
>     >             Robby
>     >
>     >             On Dec 11, 2013 6:19 PM, "Blake McBride"
>     <blake@mcbride.name <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>
>     >             <mailto:blake@mcbride.name
>     <mailto:blake@mcbride.name>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >                 Greetings,
>     >
>     >                 Just started using acme (and sam).  Cool.
>     >
>     >                 I am using acme on a Mac form plan9port.
>     >
>     >                 Within a file list one can right-click a listing in
>     >                 order to decend into another directory or load a file.
>     >                  The problem is that neither work if a space is
>     >                 contained within the name.  Apparently, the
>     right-click
>     >                 functionality only looks at non-white space
>     strings.  An
>     >                 easy fix to this would be to allow the user to
>     highlight
>     >                 the entire string (including spaces) and then
>     >                 right-click as normal.  The system would allow the
>     >                 highlight facility to override the "just test for
>     >                 contigous non-space string" current functionality.
>     >
>     >                 Any thoughts on this?
>     >
>     >                 Thanks.
>     >
>     >                 Blake McBride
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
> 
> 
> 

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me the specifics on this.

Thanks!

Blake



On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de> wrote:

> To use the plumber, you have to start it first. Then you can configure
> all the Button-3 behavior you want. No need to change the hard coded
> backup behavior.
>
> Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride:
> > Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules
> > 9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb:
> > connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file
> >
> > I don't have to do this when I search for text with spaces, or to
> > execute a command with spaces.  Not being able to load files or
> > directories with spaces is, and I mean this in the most respectfull way,
> > short sighted and inconsistent IMO.  As long as a fix doesn't limit some
> > existing functionality, I think it should be corrected.  I am qualified
> > to make such a correction but, not being familiar with the code, I
> > estimate it would take me a whole day to do.  I'd bet it would take
> > someone famaliar with the code an hour.  My time, like all of yours, is
> > very limited.  I will make the change when my time permits.  My hope is
> > that someone more familiar with the code can make it before then.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Blake
> >
> >
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Friedrich Psiorz]

To run the plumber, type
plumber &

then you can copy the rules file to $HOME/lib/plumbing and modify it as
you wish. The next time you start the plumber (or when you write the
modified file back via 9p), it will load that config file and hopefully
behave as you planned.

Okay, now what's the plumber? There are two kinds of Buttor-3 actions in
acme:
1) if you use button 3 on things like file names, addresses, etc. it
does some special action
2) otherwise, search text

The plumber (when running) is there to find out, if there is a special
action to perform, and then do it. Read the paper "Plumbing and other
utilities" to get more details.

~Fritz

Am 15.12.2013 17:38, schrieb Blake McBride:
> I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me the specifics on this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de
> <mailto:f.psiorz@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     To use the plumber, you have to start it first. Then you can configure
>     all the Button-3 behavior you want. No need to change the hard coded
>     backup behavior.
>
>     Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride:
>     > Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules
>     > 9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb:
>     > connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file
>     >
>     > I don't have to do this when I search for text with spaces, or to
>     > execute a command with spaces.  Not being able to load files or
>     > directories with spaces is, and I mean this in the most
>     respectfull way,
>     > short sighted and inconsistent IMO.  As long as a fix doesn't
>     limit some
>     > existing functionality, I think it should be corrected.  I am
>     qualified
>     > to make such a correction but, not being familiar with the code, I
>     > estimate it would take me a whole day to do.  I'd bet it would take
>     > someone famaliar with the code an hour.  My time, like all of
>     yours, is
>     > very limited.  I will make the change when my time permits.  My
>     hope is
>     > that someone more familiar with the code can make it before then.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Blake
>     >
>     >
>

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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Thanks!  That is very helpful.


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de> wrote:

> To run the plumber, type
> plumber &
>
> then you can copy the rules file to $HOME/lib/plumbing and modify it as
> you wish. The next time you start the plumber (or when you write the
> modified file back via 9p), it will load that config file and hopefully
> behave as you planned.
>
> Okay, now what's the plumber? There are two kinds of Buttor-3 actions in
> acme:
> 1) if you use button 3 on things like file names, addresses, etc. it
> does some special action
> 2) otherwise, search text
>
> The plumber (when running) is there to find out, if there is a special
> action to perform, and then do it. Read the paper "Plumbing and other
> utilities" to get more details.
>
> ~Fritz
>
> Am 15.12.2013 17:38, schrieb Blake McBride:
> > I would greatly appreciate it if you could give me the specifics on this.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Blake
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Friedrich Psiorz <f.psiorz@gmx.de
> > <mailto:f.psiorz@gmx.de>> wrote:
> >
> >     To use the plumber, you have to start it first. Then you can
> configure
> >     all the Button-3 behavior you want. No need to change the hard coded
> >     backup behavior.
> >
> >     Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride:
> >     > Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules
> >     > 9p: mount: dial
> unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb:
> >     > connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such
> file
> >     >
> >     > I don't have to do this when I search for text with spaces, or to
> >     > execute a command with spaces.  Not being able to load files or
> >     > directories with spaces is, and I mean this in the most
> >     respectfull way,
> >     > short sighted and inconsistent IMO.  As long as a fix doesn't
> >     limit some
> >     > existing functionality, I think it should be corrected.  I am
> >     qualified
> >     > to make such a correction but, not being familiar with the code, I
> >     > estimate it would take me a whole day to do.  I'd bet it would take
> >     > someone famaliar with the code an hour.  My time, like all of
> >     yours, is
> >     > very limited.  I will make the change when my time permits.  My
> >     hope is
> >     > that someone more familiar with the code can make it before then.
> >     >
> >     > Thanks.
> >     >
> >     > Blake
> >     >
> >     >
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[andrey mirtchovski]

with the plumber running, issuing "B /anyfile" will open the file in
acme, even if acme isn't running. this is very useful when you start
scripting little tools.

i think this covers everything about acme :)

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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B 'some directory name with spaces'

does load the directory correctly.  But as soon as you put the cursor into
the directory acme changes the buffer header from "some directory name with
spaces" to "some".  Not supporting space in file/directory names has been
the single biggest impediment to my use of acme.

I noticed Wily doesn't have this problem.  Of course it is missing win,
Edit, Tab, etc....

Thanks.

Blake


On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com>
wrote:

> with the plumber running, issuing "B /anyfile" will open the file in
> acme, even if acme isn't running. this is very useful when you start
> scripting little tools.
>
> i think this covers everything about acme :)
>
>

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[9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Riddler]

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Perhaps making the tagline a special case where acme will read from the
left to the bar | and use that for the file/directory name.

You would still have to chord it elsewhere but it might fix the most
annoying issue (inability to one click put etc)

Thoughts?
On 19 Aug 2014 21:40, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:

> B 'some directory name with spaces'
>
> does load the directory correctly.  But as soon as you put the cursor into
> the directory acme changes the buffer header from "some directory name with
> spaces" to "some".  Not supporting space in file/directory names has been
> the single biggest impediment to my use of acme.
>
> I noticed Wily doesn't have this problem.  Of course it is missing win,
> Edit, Tab, etc....
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> with the plumber running, issuing "B /anyfile" will open the file in
>> acme, even if acme isn't running. this is very useful when you start
>> scripting little tools.
>>
>> i think this covers everything about acme :)
>>
>>
>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Blake McBride]

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Thanks for the suggestion.  I really wish acme were just fixed.  I find
acme a beautiful editor.  A small number of issues render the editor too
much of a hassle to use for me.  It is a shame because I really like it.
 It is clean, simple, easy to learn, and powerful.

Thanks.

Blake



On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Riddler <riddler876@gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps making the tagline a special case where acme will read from the
> left to the bar | and use that for the file/directory name.
>
> You would still have to chord it elsewhere but it might fix the most
> annoying issue (inability to one click put etc)
>
> Thoughts?
> On 19 Aug 2014 21:40, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>
>> B 'some directory name with spaces'
>>
>> does load the directory correctly.  But as soon as you put the cursor
>> into the directory acme changes the buffer header from "some directory name
>> with spaces" to "some".  Not supporting space in file/directory names has
>> been the single biggest impediment to my use of acme.
>>
>> I noticed Wily doesn't have this problem.  Of course it is missing win,
>> Edit, Tab, etc....
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Blake
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, andrey mirtchovski <
>> mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> with the plumber running, issuing "B /anyfile" will open the file in
>>> acme, even if acme isn't running. this is very useful when you start
>>> scripting little tools.
>>>
>>> i think this covers everything about acme :)
>>>
>>>
>>

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Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

[Skip Tavakkolian]

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i'm not sure, but i think this is where the problem starts. take it with a
grain of salt; i'm no acme expert and i spent less than 10 minutes looking
through the sources (the Plan 9 version).

/sys/src/cmd/acme/wind.c:359,361





On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Blake McBride <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion.  I really wish acme were just fixed.  I find
> acme a beautiful editor.  A small number of issues render the editor too
> much of a hassle to use for me.  It is a shame because I really like it.
>  It is clean, simple, easy to learn, and powerful.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Blake
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Riddler <riddler876@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps making the tagline a special case where acme will read from the
>> left to the bar | and use that for the file/directory name.
>>
>> You would still have to chord it elsewhere but it might fix the most
>> annoying issue (inability to one click put etc)
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> On 19 Aug 2014 21:40, "Blake McBride" <blake@mcbride.name> wrote:
>>
>>> B 'some directory name with spaces'
>>>
>>> does load the directory correctly.  But as soon as you put the cursor
>>> into the directory acme changes the buffer header from "some directory name
>>> with spaces" to "some".  Not supporting space in file/directory names has
>>> been the single biggest impediment to my use of acme.
>>>
>>> I noticed Wily doesn't have this problem.  Of course it is missing win,
>>> Edit, Tab, etc....
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Blake
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:39 PM, andrey mirtchovski <
>>> mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> with the plumber running, issuing "B /anyfile" will open the file in
>>>> acme, even if acme isn't running. this is very useful when you start
>>>> scripting little tools.
>>>>
>>>> i think this covers everything about acme :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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