Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Christopher Splinter]

Hi,

Some mails which are quite apparently spam (i. e. have spamicity
values of about 0.9952959048) are not sorted into the group they
should be sorted to.

I use bogofilter as a mailfilter and (: spam-split) for
splitting. `S t' shows the proper spamicity.

Is this a bug or am I doing anything wrong?

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 01 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
> Some mails which are quite apparently spam (i. e. have spamicity
> values of about 0.9952959048) are not sorted into the group they
> should be sorted to.
> 
> I use bogofilter as a mailfilter and (: spam-split) for
> splitting. `S t' shows the proper spamicity.
> 
> Is this a bug or am I doing anything wrong?

Are you using spam-use-bogofilter-headers or spam-use-bogofilter?

What does spam-check-bogofilter or spam-check-bogofilter-headers
return when you run it in the article buffer?

(hit `t' beforehand to make sure the X-Bogosity header is visible)

Can you show an example of a broken Bogofilter header?  The
spam-bogofilter-header ("X-Bogosity") and
spam-bogofilter-bogosity-positive-spam-header ("^\\(Yes\\|Spam\\)")
variables control whether a X-Bogosity header will be caught as spam.

Thanks
Ted

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Christopher Splinter]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Sat, 01 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
>> Some mails which are quite apparently spam (i. e. have spamicity
>> values of about 0.9952959048) are not sorted into the group they
>> should be sorted to.
>> 
>> I use bogofilter as a mailfilter and (: spam-split) for
>> splitting. `S t' shows the proper spamicity.
>> 
>> Is this a bug or am I doing anything wrong?
>
> Are you using spam-use-bogofilter-headers or spam-use-bogofilter?

I use spam-use-bogofilter.

> What does spam-check-bogofilter or spam-check-bogofilter-headers
> return when you run it in the article buffer?

"junk" -- `B t' though returns this:

(: spam-split)
"mail.misc"

("mail.misc" is not meant for spam.)

> Can you show an example of a broken Bogofilter header?

X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=1.0000000000, version=0.10.1.3.cvs.20030130

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
> 
>> On Sat, 01 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
>>> Some mails which are quite apparently spam (i. e. have spamicity
>>> values of about 0.9952959048) are not sorted into the group they
>>> should be sorted to.
>>> 
>>> I use bogofilter as a mailfilter and (: spam-split) for
>>> splitting. `S t' shows the proper spamicity.
>>> 
>>> Is this a bug or am I doing anything wrong?
>>
>> Are you using spam-use-bogofilter-headers or spam-use-bogofilter?
> 
> I use spam-use-bogofilter.

Just to make sure: you do not pre-process mail with Bogofilter, right?
It should come to you unmodified (without a X-Bogosity headers) if you
have spam-use-bogofilter turned on.

>> What does spam-check-bogofilter or spam-check-bogofilter-headers
>> return when you run it in the article buffer?
> 
> "junk" -- `B t' though returns this:
> 
> (: spam-split)
> "mail.misc"
> 
> ("mail.misc" is not meant for spam.)
> 
>> Can you show an example of a broken Bogofilter header?
> 
> X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=1.0000000000,
> version=0.10.1.3.cvs.20030130

I get the correct output on that.  Could something else in your split
methods be matching?  Can you show your split methods?  Also, can you
hit `t' on that article to show the whole body, then 
`M-: (spam-split)' to see what spam-split thinks about the message?

Thanks
Ted

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Christopher Splinter]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>> Are you using spam-use-bogofilter-headers or spam-use-bogofilter?
>> I use spam-use-bogofilter.
> Just to make sure: you do not pre-process mail with Bogofilter, right?

No.

>>> What does spam-check-bogofilter or spam-check-bogofilter-headers
>>> return when you run it in the article buffer?
>> 
>> "junk" -- `B t' though returns this:
>> 
>> (: spam-split)
>> "mail.misc"
>> 
>> ("mail.misc" is not meant for spam.)
>> 
>>> Can you show an example of a broken Bogofilter header?
>> 
>> X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=1.0000000000,
>> version=0.10.1.3.cvs.20030130
>
> I get the correct output on that.

(spam-split) used in *Article* (on the full message, of course),
returns "junk", which is the value of spam-split-group.  In spite
of that, the mail's not split properly.

> Could something else in your split methods be matching?

I wouldn't think so, there's only one entry which moves
messages to mail.misc:

(setq nnmail-split-fancy
      '(| (: spam-split)
          [...] 
	  "mail.misc"))

If that's not enough, I can post the rest of the list too; it
wouldn't be very enlightening, though.

> Also, can you hit `t' on that article to show the whole body,
> then `M-: (spam-split)' to see what spam-split thinks about the
> message?

See above.

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
> (spam-split) used in *Article* (on the full message, of course),
> returns "junk", which is the value of spam-split-group.  In spite
> of that, the mail's not split properly.
> 
>> Could something else in your split methods be matching?
> 
> I wouldn't think so, there's only one entry which moves
> messages to mail.misc:
> 
> (setq nnmail-split-fancy
>       '(| (: spam-split)
>           [...] 
> 	  "mail.misc"))
> 
> If that's not enough, I can post the rest of the list too; it
> wouldn't be very enlightening, though.

I'm pretty stumped.  spam-split is behaving exactly as it should by
itself; spam-check-bogofilter is behaving exactly as it should by
itself.  Inside nnmail-split-fancy, however, they fail.

How about 

(defun spam-split-test ()
 (debug (spam-split))
 nil)

Add (: spam-split-test) in your nnmail-split-fancy before spam-split
and see what the debug error is.  Hit `c' to continue once you hit the
debugger.  Let me know what the stack trace says - it will tell us
what really is happening in there.

Thanks
Ted

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Christopher Splinter]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
>> (spam-split) used in *Article* (on the full message, of course),
>> returns "junk", which is the value of spam-split-group.  In spite
>> of that, the mail's not split properly.
>> 
>>> Could something else in your split methods be matching?
>> 
>> I wouldn't think so, there's only one entry which moves
>> messages to mail.misc:
>> 
>> (setq nnmail-split-fancy
>>       '(| (: spam-split)
>>           [...] 
>> 	  "mail.misc"))
>> 
>> If that's not enough, I can post the rest of the list too; it
>> wouldn't be very enlightening, though.
>
> I'm pretty stumped.  spam-split is behaving exactly as it should by
> itself; spam-check-bogofilter is behaving exactly as it should by
> itself.  Inside nnmail-split-fancy, however, they fail.
>
> How about 
>
> (defun spam-split-test ()
>  (debug (spam-split))
>  nil)
>
> Add (: spam-split-test) in your nnmail-split-fancy before spam-split
> and see what the debug error is.  Hit `c' to continue once you hit the
> debugger. 

> Let me know what the stack trace says

Debugger entered: nil
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("Æ\b!ˆÇ ˆÈ	!ˆ\nƒ?\0Éed\"\vVƒ4\0ebˆÊ\v¥yˆ`\x1cdbˆÊ\v¥\vZyˆ\f`|ˆ)ËcˆebˆÌÍ !ˆÎ ˆ	@Ï=ƒK\0ÐÑÒ\"ˆÓ ˆÌÔ!ˆÒÕÒ\x1d\x1e\x17\x1e\x18ÌÔ!ˆŠÖ ˆ,Õ‡" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(nil)
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("Æ\b!ˆÇ ˆÈ	!ˆ\nƒ?\0Éed\"\vVƒ4\0ebˆÊ\v¥yˆ`\x1cdbˆÊ\v¥\vZyˆ\f`|ˆ)ËcˆebˆÌÍ !ˆÎ ˆ	@Ï=ƒK\0ÐÑÒ\"ˆÓ ˆÌÔ!ˆÒÕÒ\x1d\x1e\x17\x1e\x18ÌÔ!ˆŠÖ ˆ,Õ‡" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(nil)
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("Æ\b!ˆÇ ˆÈ	!ˆ\nƒ?\0Éed\"\vVƒ4\0ebˆÊ\v¥yˆ`\x1cdbˆÊ\v¥\vZyˆ\f`|ˆ)ËcˆebˆÌÍ !ˆÎ ˆ	@Ï=ƒK\0ÐÑÒ\"ˆÓ ˆÌÔ!ˆÒÕÒ\x1d\x1e\x17\x1e\x18ÌÔ!ˆŠÖ ˆ,Õ‡" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(nil)
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("Æ\b!ˆÇ ˆÈ	!ˆ\nƒ?\0Éed\"\vVƒ4\0ebˆÊ\v¥yˆ`\x1cdbˆÊ\v¥\vZyˆ\f`|ˆ)ËcˆebˆÌÍ !ˆÎ ˆ	@Ï=ƒK\0ÐÑÒ\"ˆÓ ˆÌÔ!ˆÒÕÒ\x1d\x1e\x17\x1e\x18ÌÔ!ˆŠÖ ˆ,Õ‡" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(nil)
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("Æ\b!ˆÇ ˆÈ	!ˆ\nƒ?\0Éed\"\vVƒ4\0ebˆÊ\v¥yˆ`\x1cdbˆÊ\v¥\vZyˆ\f`|ˆ)ËcˆebˆÌÍ !ˆÎ ˆ	@Ï=ƒK\0ÐÑÒ\"ˆÓ ˆÌÔ!ˆÒÕÒ\x1d\x1e\x17\x1e\x18ÌÔ!ˆŠÖ ˆ,Õ‡" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(nil)
  spam-split-test()
  eval((spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((: spam-split-test))
  nnmail-split-it((| (: spam-split-test) (: spam-split) ("Gnus-Warning" "This is a duplicate of message" "junk.dupes") ("to" "amazon@splinter.inka.de" "mail.amazon") ("to" "chris-2001@splinter.inka.de" "mail.zweitausendeins") ("to" "chris-libri@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.libri") ("to" "chris-visions2?@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.visions") ("to" "chris-test@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "mail.test") ("to" "chris-lf@splinter.inka.de" "mail.yahoo") ("to" "chris-vlb@splinter.inka.de" "mail.vlb") ("subject" "[Ww]ahlschein" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" ".*- Bestaetigung" "mail.wahlen") ("subject" "[Rr]eflector" "mail.reflector-answers") ("subject" "[Tt]estposting" "mail.reflector-answers") ("from" "[Mm]ajordomo@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "listar@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" ".*-request@.*" "mail.subs") ("from" "de-alt-netdigest@moderators\\.dana\\.de" "mail.netdigest") ("from" "uucp@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "root@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "news@splinter.inka.de" "mail.system") ("from" "Group Update Program" "mail.gup") ("from" ".*@ebay\\.de" "mail.ebay") ("from" ".*@yahoo-inc\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.com" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@yahoogroups\\.de" "mail.yahoo") ("from" ".*@lehmanns\\.de" "mail.lehmanns") ("subject" "ezmlm response" "mail.subs") ("subject" "Majordomo results:.*" "mail.subs") ("subject" "splinter\\.inka\\.de Daily Usenet report for .*" "mail.system.news.daily-reports") ("subject" "\\bnewgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\brmgroup\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("subject" "\\bcheckgroups\\b.*" "mail.system.news.controls") ("mailing-list" "contact dcoulm-rmgroup-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.rmgroup-dcoulm") ("mailing-list" "contact qmail-help@list.cr.yp.to; run by ezmlm" "lists.qmail") ("mailing-list" "contact gnus-tutorial-help@socha.net; run by ezmlm" "lists.gnus.tutorial") ("to" "chris-ts@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tagesschau.newsletter") ("Delivered-To" "chris-tw\\.d5695b@splinter\\.inka\\.de" "lists.tmda.workers") ("return-path" "\\<dcoul-de-admin@buug\\.de\\>" "lists.dcoul-de") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-dev-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.dev") ("return-path" "\\<bogofilter-return-.*@aotto\\.com\\>" "lists.bogofilter.misc") ("return-path" "\\<asml-return@dca\\.damaschke\\.de\\>" "lists.asml") (any "de-newusers@krell.snafu.de" "lists.de-newusers") (any "rfddcouln@egroups.com" "lists.rfddcouln") (any "tin-\\(.*\\)@tin.org" "lists.tin.\\1") (any "ding@\\(gnus.org\\|hpc.uh.edu\\)" "lists.gnus.ding") (any "xemacs-announce@xemacs.org" "lists.xemacs.announce") (any "debian-\\(.*\\)@lists.debian.org" "lists.debian.\\1") ...))
  nnmail-split-fancy()
  byte-code("\b †\x06\0Á‡" [nnmail-split-methods ("bogus")] 1)
  nnmail-article-group(identity t)
  gnus-summary-respool-query(nil t)
  gnus-summary-respool-trace()
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-respool-trace)

Re: Some spam messages are not sorted into the corresponding group

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 05 Feb 2003, chris@splinter.inka.de wrote:
> Debugger entered: nil
>   spam-split-test() eval((spam-split-test)) nnmail-split-it((:

OK, so spam-split is returning nil even though it shouldn't.  Can you
send a gnus-bug, so I get all your variables?  I'm pretty sure
something is wrong with either the code or your setup, and I can't see
anything obvious in the code that would cause your problems.

Thanks
Ted