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From: Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>
To: Tommy Kelly <tommy.kelly@verilab.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Just shoot me now (was Re: What's wrong with this fancy split?)
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:26:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fx62ums1xi.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2ipymu0k7.fsf_-_@verilab.com> (Tommy Kelly's message of "Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:13:28 -0600")

Tommy Kelly <tommy.kelly@verilab.com> writes:

> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>
>> Because [ and ] are not word characters.  See
>> nnmail-split-fancy-syntax-table.
>
> Thanks Andreas. Unfortunately that 6,500 line variable, consisting
> mostly of pairs of parens enclosing numbers, is as clear as mud :-)
>
> This to no one in particular:
>
> Thus far, like my adventures in figuring out what version of gnus is
> current, my attempts Just To Split My Mail have been ... interesting:
>
> 1. Try to figure out multi-line regexps with simple splitting
> 2. Advised to move to fancy splitting
> 3. Hours of trying to get even the simplest fancy split working (and I'm
> not alone)
> 4. Finally get it moving -- but only after direct advice. But still
> don't understand why (specifically, why is nnmail-split-methods settable
> on a per-server basis, but nnmail-split-fancy is done on a ... shrug
> .. a per gnus basis?)
> 5. Begin building more simple splits then stumble on
> "\\[stuff\\]". Splitting isn't as keen on \\[ as it is on, say, \\. .
> 6. Told that nnmail-split-fancy-syntax-table is the clue
> 7. C-h v on that variable. Look. Puke. Look again.
> 8. Google for "emacs lisp syntax table"
> 9. Fall pretty much at the first fence on being told that a syntax table
> is a "char-table" about which I know very little
> 10. Start reading about what a char-table is
> 11. Consider reading about "aref" and "aset" since part of the basic
> description of char-tables mentions those
> 12. Stop and think "Seriously!? All this Just To Split My Mail!?"
>
> I'm not remotely demanding, requesting or even begging for change. I
> acknowledge that Gnus is a labour of love, open source, and is there to
> be taken or left as each sees fit.
>
> I'm just saying.
>
> Tommy

Heh. This made me smile ;) It's nice to know I'm not alone as someone
who thinks themselves moderately able that also bangs their head against
the wall wondering if I have gone crazy ... ;)

This could be a great start for the new "Make Gnus Accessible" effort!



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-22  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-21 22:29 What's wrong with this fancy split? Tommy Kelly
2010-12-21 22:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-21 23:50   ` Russ Allbery
2010-12-22  0:17     ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22  9:32     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-22 10:16       ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 10:28         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-22 10:35           ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 10:44             ` Andreas Schwab
2010-12-22 11:44               ` Bjørn Mork
2010-12-22 12:26               ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 12:37                 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-12-22 12:59                   ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 13:48                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 16:10                       ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 17:46                         ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 18:19                           ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 19:15                             ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 19:53                               ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 22:12                                 ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 23:31                                   ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-23 19:05                                     ` Steinar Bang
2010-12-22 15:39               ` Richard Riley
2010-12-22 12:34           ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22  0:13   ` Just shoot me now (was Re: What's wrong with this fancy split?) Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22  7:24     ` Just shoot me now Reiner Steib
2010-12-22 13:57       ` Richard Riley
2010-12-22 14:18         ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 15:54           ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2010-12-22 16:30             ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 16:54               ` Richard Riley
2010-12-22 17:12                 ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 17:14                 ` Lawrence Mitchell
2010-12-22 17:43                   ` Richard Riley
2010-12-22 18:07                   ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 22:40                   ` Richard Riley
2010-12-22 19:25           ` Eric S Fraga
2010-12-22  7:26     ` Richard Riley [this message]
2010-12-22  9:35     ` Just shoot me now (was Re: What's wrong with this fancy split?) Andreas Schwab
2010-12-22 12:53       ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 18:21         ` Adam Sjøgren
2010-12-22 19:12           ` Tommy Kelly
2010-12-22 19:44             ` Adam Sjøgren

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