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From: Clemens Fischer <ino@despammed.com>
Subject: Re: [despammed] Re: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 15:30:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ofa7ae4b.fsf@ID-23066.news.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m365wjzdr1.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu>

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

>> only when starting a thread, there is no information in the To/Cc,
>
> We have to-list, to-address, header fields from group parameters,
> and message-default-mail-headers.  At least.

no.  you people always think that everybody wants separate groups for
each mailinglist and splits that way.  well, i don't.  i subscribe to
as many lists i can manage in me poor head, and i read each and every
post, but i store only the ones i need.  so i have a central mailbox
collecting everything, all splitting is done by procmail before that.

meaning i can't use any of the group parameters, even if there were
thousands of them.  so what do _i_ do?  i know, i know, "roll your
own"...

>> C-c C-f C-a (init unsubscribed-mft) or C-c C-f C-m (move to mft)
>> could have their semantics changed in that they re-generate the
>> header value according to the current contents of To/Cc.
>
> It would be better to add a new command for that, so as not to
> disturb users of the old commands.

ok.

>> reading through a batch of emails it seems that senders are commonly
>> stored in Return-Path, Delivered-To and [...]
>
> Delivered-To is a recipient address, not sender.

sure.  what a big mistake of mine.  what i was hinting at is the fact
that there are no RFC-ified headers one can look at for envelope
information, although typical MTAs offer lots of functionality based
on envelope information.  it seems natural to let users influence and
check envelope information.   eg. i still don't know why
posting-styles doesn't reliably set my sender.  the workaround is
easy, but it takes hours of that time i didn't know i had to invest.

let's be done with this.  btw, some part of my mailing now generates
correct MFTs.

clemens





  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-06 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-29 14:01 Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 14:14 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-09-29 14:32   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 17:08     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-09-29 17:51       ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-30  1:31         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-09-30  1:57           ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-30 19:15             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-10-01  2:11               ` Russ Allbery
2002-10-01  3:27                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-10-01  3:38                   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-01  3:57                   ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-30  3:08           ` greg andruk
2002-09-30 19:17             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-09-30 11:23           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-07 21:58         ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-07 23:20           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-09 14:04             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-10-02 16:46       ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-29 18:35   ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-29 18:51     ` Michael Cook
2002-09-29 19:45       ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-29 15:14 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 16:59   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 20:15     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 20:21       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-09-29 20:30         ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 21:43           ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-09-30 12:03           ` Clemens Fischer
2002-09-30 14:19             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-30 14:43             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-30 22:04               ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-01  0:22                 ` Josh Huber
2002-10-01  9:54                   ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-01 10:45                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-02 16:52                       ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-01 14:05                     ` Josh Huber
2002-10-01 18:12                       ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-02 18:38                         ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-03  0:06                           ` mail-followup-to, was " Clemens Fischer
2002-10-03 16:13                             ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 16:49                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 19:44                       ` [despammed] " clemens fischer
2002-10-02 20:25                         ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 23:16                           ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-03 16:30                             ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-06 13:30                               ` Clemens Fischer [this message]
2002-10-07 16:34                                 ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-07 23:44                                   ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-08 15:34                                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 18:48                     ` Reiner Steib
2002-10-03  0:13                       ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-08 12:07                         ` Reiner Steib
2002-10-01 11:06               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-01 11:54                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-02  4:41               ` Dan Christensen
2002-12-29 15:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 16:36   ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-12-30 16:50     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 22:06       ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-12-30 20:46   ` No References header when using drafts (was: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?) Reiner Steib
2002-12-30 21:06     ` No References header when using drafts Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 21:59       ` Reiner Steib
2002-12-30 22:23         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-31 14:43           ` Reiner Steib
2003-01-01 17:57             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-01 18:49               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-31 15:23           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-02 17:05             ` Simon Josefsson
2003-01-02 18:30               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-02 20:53                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-01-02 21:04                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-03 17:48                     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-02 21:30               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-06 19:27   ` References Header (Re: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?) Mark Thomas
2003-01-07  4:56     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-07 13:11       ` Mark Thomas
2003-01-07 18:12       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-08  4:10         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-07 12:49     ` References Header Reiner Steib
2003-01-08  3:55       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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