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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Subject: Re: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 18:59:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iluy99kzq8w.fsf@h28n1c1o299.bredband.skanova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vaffzvssu97.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:14:28 +0200")

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> Also, shouldn't Gnus generate the In-Reply-To header in the message
>> buffer when you press R or F?  The References: header is generated.
>> Possibly neither should be generated though (and people that want to
>> see it can use `message-generate-headers-first').  Opinions?
>
> IIUC, the In-Reply-To header contains a pointer to just one message,
> whereas the References header contains pointers to many messages.
> With the multiple messages, Gnus can fill gaps in the threading.  I
> like the filling-gaps feature.
>
> Unless I misunderstood something, I vote for keeping References.

I wasn't clear -- I wanted to remove Lines: completely for mail, but
the In-Reply-To/References question was only if they were to be
displayed in the message buffer by default.  Currently, References: is
shown in the message buffer when you press F but In-Reply-To: is not,
which is rather confusing.  Both headers will be present in the sent
message.  I wanted to make the behaviour the same, either both
In-Reply-To and References: are shown when you press F or they are not
shown.  They should both still be added to outgoing mail, of course.

The reason is that I often have a habit of pressing R or F and then
removing the References: line and change Subject in order to start a
new thread.  This won't work well since In-Reply-To: is automatically
added when the message is sent though.  Either both headers should be
shown by default, or none and I will have to use
`message-generate-headers-first'.

I vote for not showing References: by default.  People that care about
the header (very few I think) can frob m-g-h-f.  What do you think?




  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-29 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-29 14:01 Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 14:14 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-09-29 14:32   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 17:08     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2002-09-29 17:51       ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-30  1:31         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-09-30  1:57           ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-30 19:15             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-10-01  2:11               ` Russ Allbery
2002-10-01  3:27                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-10-01  3:38                   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-01  3:57                   ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-30  3:08           ` greg andruk
2002-09-30 19:17             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2002-09-30 11:23           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-07 21:58         ` Florian Weimer
2002-10-07 23:20           ` Simon Josefsson
2002-10-09 14:04             ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-10-02 16:46       ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-09-29 18:35   ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-29 18:51     ` Michael Cook
2002-09-29 19:45       ` Russ Allbery
2002-09-29 15:14 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 16:59   ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2002-09-29 20:15     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-29 20:21       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-09-29 20:30         ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-29 21:43           ` Jorgen Schaefer
2002-09-30 12:03           ` Clemens Fischer
2002-09-30 14:19             ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-30 14:43             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-09-30 22:04               ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-01  0:22                 ` Josh Huber
2002-10-01  9:54                   ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-01 10:45                     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-02 16:52                       ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-01 14:05                     ` Josh Huber
2002-10-01 18:12                       ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-02 18:38                         ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-03  0:06                           ` mail-followup-to, was " Clemens Fischer
2002-10-03 16:13                             ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 16:49                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 19:44                       ` [despammed] " clemens fischer
2002-10-02 20:25                         ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 23:16                           ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-03 16:30                             ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-06 13:30                               ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-07 16:34                                 ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-07 23:44                                   ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-08 15:34                                     ` Paul Jarc
2002-10-02 18:48                     ` Reiner Steib
2002-10-03  0:13                       ` Clemens Fischer
2002-10-08 12:07                         ` Reiner Steib
2002-10-01 11:06               ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-01 11:54                 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-10-02  4:41               ` Dan Christensen
2002-12-29 15:59 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 16:36   ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-12-30 16:50     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 22:06       ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-12-30 20:46   ` No References header when using drafts (was: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?) Reiner Steib
2002-12-30 21:06     ` No References header when using drafts Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-30 21:59       ` Reiner Steib
2002-12-30 22:23         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-31 14:43           ` Reiner Steib
2003-01-01 17:57             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-01 18:49               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-12-31 15:23           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-02 17:05             ` Simon Josefsson
2003-01-02 18:30               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-02 20:53                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-01-02 21:04                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-03 17:48                     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-02 21:30               ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-06 19:27   ` References Header (Re: Why does Gnus generates Lines: header in mail?) Mark Thomas
2003-01-07  4:56     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-07 13:11       ` Mark Thomas
2003-01-07 18:12       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-01-08  4:10         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2003-01-07 12:49     ` References Header Reiner Steib
2003-01-08  3:55       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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