From: Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
To: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: FD 2
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 14:07:59 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W52N9RZthX_DcdSkHisn--VbL2Lt-jjh7Ga-Vf++N1afg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230130161857.F2F371FB2F@orac.inputplus.co.uk>
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:19 AM Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk> wrote:
> > > There was no job control on plan9 and I can't say I ever missed it.
> >
> > Just yesterday I realized running two “make -j 8” in parallel was
> > making them both go real slow so I stopped one of them with ^Z and
> > continued it once the other make finished. This use case can’t be
> > handled with more windows.
>
> If I lacked job control in that situation, I'd either SIGSTOP one of the
> two with kill(1) for a later SIGCONT or renice it to hardly get a look
> in until its peer had finished. (The TTY's susp character for job
> control is SIGTSTP.)
I think that Bakul's point was that there wasn't an analogue for
SIGTSTP in plan 9. You _could_ drop a `stop` into a process's
/proc/$pid/note, which was the Unix equivalent of sending `SIGSTOP`
(and I was a bit wrong earlier; that was handled by the proc driver,
not the process). I don't believe there was a binding for that in the
window system, though.
It's funny, as I thought about it a bit more, the existence of the
window system model sort of proves that there's nothing intrinsic
about how it worked that would preclude one writing, basically, a
terminal-driver in user space. No one was ever motivated to do so, but
I don't see why one couldn't have implemented job control as a
userspace primitive building on top of the existing proc/note
machinery.
- Dan C.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-30 19:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-20 22:44 [TUHS] " ron minnich
2023-01-20 22:54 ` [TUHS] " G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 22:56 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:11 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 23:14 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:22 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 23:13 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-21 3:37 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-21 15:42 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 17:34 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 17:50 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:26 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 18:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 11:05 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-22 21:23 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 22:10 ` ron minnich
2023-01-23 7:30 ` arnold
2023-01-23 8:32 ` James Johnston
2023-01-23 8:58 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-23 11:49 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 14:25 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-01-23 17:43 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 16:59 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-24 7:21 ` arnold
2023-01-29 18:51 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-29 19:20 ` Ron Natalie
2023-01-29 20:25 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 7:50 ` arnold
2023-01-30 8:09 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 15:02 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:16 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:27 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:35 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:45 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:09 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 19:03 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 19:12 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-30 21:24 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 22:15 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 22:50 ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 23:05 ` [TUHS] Child of plan9? (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-31 3:19 ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2023-01-30 16:21 ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:27 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:32 ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 16:40 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 19:55 ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-01-31 21:27 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-30 16:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 16:57 ` Andy Kosela
2023-01-30 17:04 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 20:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 21:01 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 21:10 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 16:03 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:07 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:13 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:22 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:17 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-30 16:41 ` [TUHS] job control (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 19:07 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2023-01-30 13:26 ` [TUHS] " John Cowan
2023-01-30 14:30 ` arnold
2023-01-30 0:25 ` Phil Budne
2023-01-30 2:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:27 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-22 10:56 ` Jaap Akkerhuis via TUHS
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