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From: "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: FD 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:58:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230123085833.lvxjr44d4ty2ag62@illithid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO2qRdOvgNny3L50icK8xmwswu3M429-KqzhVoe09bRMXJBVVg@mail.gmail.com>

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At 2023-01-23T00:32:53-0800, James Johnston wrote:
> At one point it was like $22/page.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 11:30 PM <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
> 
> > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And I believe that the impetus for the V7 changes was
> > > phototypesetting 'file not found' too often...  But that last bit
> > > is mostly because I want to believe.
> >
> > Doug McIlroy has told that story here, search the archives.
> > It was indeed becase of the phototypesetter.

Steve Johnson's email[0] (which I cited in my earlier reply to this
thread) said it took only "a couple of days" after acquistion of the
phototypesetter for this to happen.  But the C/A/T was acquired by
1973[1], and the Hunt Brothers' cornering of the silver market occurred
in March 1980[2], over a year _after_ the release of V7[3].

It seems both of these can't be true.  I wondered if maybe only a later
typesetter used a silver-based photochemical development process, but
that doesn't work with troff history either, as device-independent troff
wasn't ready to go until about January 1981, targetting the C/A/T and
the Autologic APS-5[4], the latter with support so fresh that it wasn't
in the manual yet[5].

Can someone reconcile these points?

Regards,
Branden

[0] https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2013-December/006113.html
[1] https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V4/man/man1/troff.1
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday
[3] https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=V7
[4] https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Manuals/Unix_4.0/Volume_1/00_Annotated_Table_of_Contents.pdf
    (p. 2)
[5] https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Manuals/Unix_4.0/Volume_1/C.1.2_NROFF_TROFF_Users_Manual.pdf
    (p. 34)

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 22:44 [TUHS] " ron minnich
2023-01-20 22:54 ` [TUHS] " G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 22:56 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:11   ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 23:14     ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:22       ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 23:13 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-21  3:37 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-21 15:42 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 17:34   ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 17:50     ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:26       ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 18:37         ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 11:05           ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-22 21:23           ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 22:10             ` ron minnich
2023-01-23  7:30             ` arnold
2023-01-23  8:32               ` James Johnston
2023-01-23  8:58                 ` G. Branden Robinson [this message]
2023-01-23 11:49                   ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 14:25                     ` Ronald Natalie
2023-01-23 17:43                       ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 16:59                 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-24  7:21                   ` arnold
2023-01-29 18:51             ` Warner Losh
2023-01-29 19:20               ` Ron Natalie
2023-01-29 20:25                 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30  7:50                   ` arnold
2023-01-30  8:09                     ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 15:02                       ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:16                         ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:27                           ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:35                             ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:45                               ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:09                                 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18                                   ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 19:03                                     ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 19:12                                       ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-30 21:24                                       ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 22:15                                         ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 22:50                                           ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 23:05                                           ` [TUHS] Child of plan9? (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-31  3:19                                             ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2023-01-30 16:21                                   ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:27                                     ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:32                                       ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 16:40                                       ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 19:55                                       ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-01-31 21:27                                     ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-30 16:48                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 16:57                                   ` Andy Kosela
2023-01-30 17:04                                     ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 20:38                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 21:01                                         ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 21:10                                         ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 16:03                           ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:07                             ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:13                               ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:22                                 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:17                               ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18                             ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-30 16:41                               ` [TUHS] job control (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 19:07                               ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-01-30 13:26                     ` John Cowan
2023-01-30 14:30                       ` arnold
2023-01-30  0:25                 ` Phil Budne
2023-01-30  2:08                   ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:27     ` Clem Cole
2023-01-22 10:56       ` Jaap Akkerhuis via TUHS

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