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From: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
To: Angelo Papenhoff <aap@papnet.eu>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: forgotten versions
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 17:50:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKzdPgwk+76qTKV87vYQtbiBQLGRyEo_kQj8KnAsf42JdVrJDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yq15RUFdzdH/wV5Q@indra.papnet.eu>

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The VAX Plan 9 kernel isn't worth anything. It never worked, was never
used, and was abandoned completely when better SMP machines started
appearing. The VAX code wasn't even ported, as I remember it; Ken and I
started over from scratch with a pair of 4-core SGI machines with MIPS CPUs
and wackadoo synchronization hardware.

-rob


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 5:05 PM Angelo Papenhoff <aap@papnet.eu> wrote:

> To make people more aware of post-v7 Research UNIX it would be great if
> you could actually run all of them in a simulator and have the manuals
> available.
>
> V8 is working perfectly in simh and there's blit (jerq) emulation as well.
> DMD 5620 emulation should be possible as well with Seth Morabito's
> emulator, but as far as I understand it needs a different ROM that we
> don't have a dump of. (I've had a real 5620 connected to my laptop
> running v8 in simh, it worked perfectly)
>
> V9 exists as a port to Sun-3 and it can actually be booted apparently.
> The source seems incomplete, but the VAX kernel source seems to be
> included as well. Maybe it could be gotten to run in simh on a VAX
> in some form or another?
>
> V10 exists but not as anything that boots. I think getting this to work
> would be the holy grail but also requires quite a bit of effort.
> I don't know if the V8 and V10 file systems are compatible, but if that
> is the case one could probably start by bootstrapping from V8.
> It also includes the multilevel-secure IX system and software for the
> 630 MTG terminal.
>
>
> As for the manual...
>
> The V8 files have the man pages but not much of the documents.
>
> The V9 files seem to have neither.
>
> The V10 files have both the man pages and the documents but I have not
> yet tried to troff any of this.
>
> Since I know at least the V10 manual to be a work of art and beauty I
> think it should be available to everyone. I have not seen the physical
> V8 and V9 manuals, but if they look anything like the V10 one, they too
> deserve to be available to the public.
>
>
> Does anyone have a plan of attack? I'd gladly join some effort to make
> the research systems more visible or available again (but probably don't
> have the motivation to do so alone).
>
> Angelo/aap
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-19  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-16 23:06 [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2022-06-16 23:17 ` [TUHS] " Earl Baugh
2022-06-16 23:18 ` George Michaelson
2022-06-16 23:44   ` George Michaelson
2022-06-17  0:10     ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-17 16:23     ` [TUHS] Sockets vs Streams (was " Bakul Shah
2022-06-17 17:43       ` [TUHS] " Paul Winalski
2022-06-17 22:52       ` Dan Stromberg
2022-06-17  7:20 ` [TUHS] " Diomidis Spinellis
2022-06-17  7:33   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-17  8:34   ` arnold
2022-06-17 10:52 ` arnold
2022-06-18  7:05 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  7:50   ` Rob Pike [this message]
2022-06-19  8:17     ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  8:53       ` Rob Pike
2022-06-19  9:02         ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:14           ` arnold
2022-06-19  9:19             ` Angelo Papenhoff
2022-06-19  9:23               ` arnold
2022-06-19 11:37                 ` Matthias Bruestle
2022-06-19 14:47         ` Kenneth Goodwin
2022-06-19 16:27           ` Al Kossow
2022-06-19 18:32           ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-19 18:38             ` Dan Cross
2022-06-21 23:56               ` Jacob Moody
2022-06-22  0:13                 ` Larry McVoy
2022-06-22  0:48                   ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  1:55                     ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:10                       ` Bakul Shah
2022-06-22  2:14                       ` Jon Steinhart
2022-06-22  2:19                         ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:58                           ` Rob Pike
2022-06-22  3:09                             ` George Michaelson
2022-06-22  2:16                   ` Andrew Hume
2022-06-22  2:55                   ` Brad Spencer
2022-06-17 14:50 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-18  0:35 Douglas McIlroy
2022-06-18  5:00 ` Kevin Bowling
2022-06-18  5:13   ` Adam Thornton
2022-06-18 16:58     ` Clem Cole
2022-06-18 17:18       ` Warner Losh
2022-06-18 17:57         ` Clem Cole
2022-06-18 19:55 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-22 12:06 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-23  0:02 ` Dan Cross
2022-06-23  2:18 Noel Chiappa
2022-06-24  6:47 Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-25 19:16 ` Anthony Martin
2022-06-25 20:45   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2022-06-27  0:57     ` Kevin Bowling

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