From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Luther Johnson <luther@makerlisp.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 15:54:43 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANCZdfpbdVhJW9YhJXbX2B4cU9rbcpBE0GNyxqg0RBWGK37rcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <849f8da7-8df2-619c-6080-d40d0ef6fc57@makerlisp.com>
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Oh also sometimes for breaking out of multiple levels of while/for loops.
The alternatives are often worse.
Warner
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 4:31 PM Luther Johnson <luther@makerlisp.com> wrote:
> I agree, unless I use setjmp/longjmp for that. Besides error recovery,
> there are occasionally other times when we want to locally "return" to a
> common state and start "from the top" again. I find such uses very clear in
> their intent, and if commented well, not hard to follow at all - as long as
> there is not more than one "top" :)
> On 03/09/2023 04:21 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 4:18 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>> GOTO is one of those paradoxical things where I would only trust the most
>> sophisticated engineer to know when it's acceptable to use a GOTO but on
>> the flip side would be suspicious of anyone claiming to be an engineer that
>> uses any amount of GOTOs...
>>
>> Were any of the various GOTOs in languages ever meant to be any more than
>> providing the same level of control that branch statements in assembly do?
>> Was there ever some vision anyone's aware of concerning a sophisticated,
>> dependable use of GOTOs? Since my first days poking around learning C GOTO
>> has been mentally filed away as an assembly vestige for folks in
>> transition, not a dependable construct in its own right. Any alternative
>> camps out there?
>>
>
>
> In C I use it all the time to do goto err for common error recovery
> because C doesn't have anything better.
>
> Warner
>
>> - Matt G.
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Thursday, March 9th, 2023 at 3:01 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso <
>> steffen@sdaoden.eu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I wonder if Pink Floyd's Summer68 maybe refers to this.
>> > Other than that i am addicted and could not live without it.
>> > The other (terrible) song is from 1984 (east southern US).
>> >
>> > --steffen
>> > |
>> > |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
>> > |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
>> > |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
>> > |(By Robert Gernhardt)
>>
>
>
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-09 23:01 [TUHS] " Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-09 23:18 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-09 23:21 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-09 23:31 ` Luther Johnson
2023-03-09 23:44 ` josh
2023-03-09 23:54 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2023-03-10 0:54 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-10 1:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-10 10:08 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:37 ` arnold
2023-03-10 11:56 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:59 ` arnold
2023-03-10 12:11 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 6:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-10 16:55 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:02 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-12 20:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-12 21:50 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-12 22:27 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-13 3:09 ` [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55thanniversary Dave Horsfall
2023-03-14 19:54 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 1:31 ` [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary Rich Morin
2023-03-10 11:37 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 15:54 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12 7:39 ` Anthony Martin
2023-03-12 11:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12 16:40 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 3:25 ` John Cowan
2023-03-13 10:40 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2023-03-13 12:19 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 11:51 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 14:16 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-03-10 14:39 ` John Cowan
2023-03-10 16:30 ` Phil Budne
2023-03-10 17:50 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:57 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-10 18:12 ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-03-10 17:28 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-10 17:54 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-10 15:37 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 15:46 ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-10 16:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 18:55 ` Ron Natalie
2023-03-10 19:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 19:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
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