[ISSUE] Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[ISSUE] Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[Cynosphere]

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New issue by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.0.15_1 x86_64 AuthenticAMD notuptodate FFFFFFFF

### Package(s) Affected

steam-1.0.0.75_2 (theoretical)

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1199#issuecomment-1368284488
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/34902#issuecomment-1255715853

### Expected behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat run fine.

### Actual behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat seem to not initialize Easy Anti-Cheat properly.

### Steps to reproduce

VRChat:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Login if fresh install
3. Be greeted with "Can't Travel" screen explaining Easy Anti-Cheat hasn't been initialized.

Apex Legends:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Wait to get to the main menu
3. Be greeted with Engine Error message box saying "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found"

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
Comment #2 is not relevant to the issue, if you go further, you will see that the issue is that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue is that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus right now and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus right now and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

(Btw, you can use `xpkg -L` to list which packages are installed locally as opposed to from a repo)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus right now and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

(You can use `xpkg -L` to list which packages are installed locally as opposed to from a repo)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[Cynosphere]

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368332366

Comment:
No change, I don't think I ever had a local build of glibc as this install has only existed since October and I've had no reason to touch glibc.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368334491

Comment:
When did you first run into this issue and was it working for you before the glibc 2.36 update?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368336284

Comment:
November 19th is when I first tried to run a game using EAC, which if I'm correct was before 2.36 and it was not working then either.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368337142

Comment:
Did you follow `cat /usr/share/doc/steam/README.voidlinux`?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368337142

Comment:
Did you try following `cat /usr/share/doc/steam/README.voidlinux`?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368339649

Comment:
Already had the needed 32bit packages, none of the troubleshooting steps made any changes.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368340703

Comment:
Can you join #voidlinux on irc/matrix?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368341323

Comment:
Joined on IRC

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368370326

Comment:
The Apex Legends legends issue was solved by using Proton 6.3.
idk about the VRChat issue though.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368370326

Comment:
The Apex Legends legends issue was solved by using Proton 6.3.
idk about the VRChat issue though.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus right now and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

(You can use `xpkg -L` to list which packages are installed locally as opposed to from a repo)

Btw, you can confirm that glibc has DT_HASH using:
`readelf -e /usr/lib/libc.so.6`
`readelf -e /usr/lib32/libc.so.6`
You should get both `.gnu.hash` and `.hash` (whereas most binaries should just have `.gnu.hash`)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368330472

Comment:
For comment 2, if you go further, you will see that the issue was that while I was testing with a patched glibc I wasn't using a patched glibc-32bit (hence why it wasn't working).

I tested with Multiversus right now and that works for me.

You can try `xbps-install -Sf glibc glibc-32bit` to make sure you are using the version from the repos and not an old local build.

(You can use `xpkg -L` to list which packages are installed locally as opposed to from a repo)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502

Comment:
I can confirm that Apex Legends doesn't work. I can also confirm that DT_HASH is present in glibc so it shouldn't be related to that:
This can be confirmed using:
`readelf -e /usr/lib/libc.so.6`
`readelf -e /usr/lib32/libc.so.6`
Both have `.gnu.hash` and `.hash` (whereas most binaries should just have `.gnu.hash`)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502

Comment:
I can confirm that Apex Legends doesn't work. I can also confirm that DT_HASH is present in glibc so it shouldn't be related to that.
This can be confirmed using:
`readelf -e /usr/lib/libc.so.6`
`readelf -e /usr/lib32/libc.so.6`
Both have `.gnu.hash` and `.hash` (whereas most binaries should just have `.gnu.hash`)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502

Comment:
I can confirm that Apex Legends doesn't work. I can also confirm that DT_HASH is present in glibc so it shouldn't be related to that.
This can be confirmed using:
`readelf -e /usr/lib/libc.so.6`
`readelf -e /usr/lib32/libc.so.6`
Both have `.gnu.hash` and `.hash` (whereas most binaries should just have `.gnu.hash`)

As a workaround flatpak should work.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502

Comment:
I can confirm that Apex Legends doesn't work. I can also confirm that DT_HASH is present in glibc so it shouldn't be related to that.
This can be confirmed using:
`readelf -e /usr/lib/libc.so.6`
`readelf -e /usr/lib32/libc.so.6`
Both have `.gnu.hash` and `.hash`.

As a workaround flatpak should work.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[Cynosphere]

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368529421

Comment:
I do hope someone does attempt to find the actual cause of the issue instead of leaving it to die on the hill of "just use flatpak".

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f` to see where it exits?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f` to see where it exits? (you would probably want to edit the launch script or add it as launch args, although idk if using strace would cause the Anticheat to fail)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f` to see where it exits? (you would probably want to edit the launch script or add it as launch args)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532138

Comment:
I'm genuinely just tired of being thrown round and round into troubleshooting circles at this point. I don't care anymore.

I'm tired of how the greater FOSS, Linux and whatnot community as a whole treats people that it's infuriating at this point.

It just genuinely comes off as "just use X because we don't want to spend time and effort into fixing Y because Y is proprietary" and its this elitism that annoys me the most.

So whatever. If someone cares to fix this in the future, cool. But I'm not going to sit here just wasting time being thrown in an endless loop of "try this, try this, try this" or "just use this instead".

Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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Closed issue by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.0.15_1 x86_64 AuthenticAMD notuptodate FFFFFFFF

### Package(s) Affected

steam-1.0.0.75_2 (theoretical)

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1199#issuecomment-1368284488
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/34902#issuecomment-1255715853
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6051

### Expected behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat run fine.

### Actual behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat seem to not initialize Easy Anti-Cheat properly.

### Steps to reproduce

VRChat:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Login if fresh install
3. Be greeted with "Can't Travel" screen explaining Easy Anti-Cheat hasn't been initialized.

Apex Legends:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Wait to get to the main menu
3. Be greeted with Engine Error message box saying "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found"

Re: [ISSUE] [CLOSED] Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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Closed issue by Cynosphere on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388

Description:
### Is this a new report?

Yes

### System Info

Void 6.0.15_1 x86_64 AuthenticAMD notuptodate FFFFFFFF

### Package(s) Affected

steam-1.0.0.75_2 (theoretical)

### Does a report exist for this bug with the project's home (upstream) and/or another distro?

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1199#issuecomment-1368284488
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/34902#issuecomment-1255715853
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6051

### Expected behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat run fine.

### Actual behaviour

Games using Easy Anti-Cheat seem to not initialize Easy Anti-Cheat properly.

### Steps to reproduce

VRChat:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Login if fresh install
3. Be greeted with "Can't Travel" screen explaining Easy Anti-Cheat hasn't been initialized.

Apex Legends:
1. Launch game through Steam
2. Wait to get to the main menu
3. Be greeted with Engine Error message box saying "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found"

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before or now, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.
Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue, if you don't want to do it you don't have to.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before or now, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue, if you don't want to do it, you don't have to.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before or now, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before or now, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to. (also, you can take as much time as you want)
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers and also I'd imagine being difficult to debug it part of the point of an Anticheat.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. If you don't want to do it, you don't have to.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how one could start trying to debug the issue. You don't have to do it.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. You don't have to do it.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time. I told you how you could start trying to debug the issue. You don't *have* to do it.
I don't personally play anticheat games and many of them require special accounts to play so idk if they worked before, all I know is that Multiversus doesn't get to the sign-in screen without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH so I imported the patch.

Just keep in mind that almost if not everyone here are volunteers.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time.

> just use X because we don't want to spend time and effort into fixing Y because Y is proprietary

To be clear, I'm not a maintainer. I don't personally play any games that use anticheat. I did test Multiversus (since it is a smaller game) and was able to confirm that it doesn't get to the menu without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/srcpkgs/glibc/patches/0001-Revert-Do-not-use-hash-style-both-for-building-glibc.patch

I'm sorry for making you "thrown round and round into troubleshooting circles" I was hoping it might be something simpler or related to the DT_HASH issue you linked in your initial post.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368532996

Comment:
> Sorry I wasted your time, as per usual that it seems to be with me trying to interact with anything on GitHub...

You didn't waste my time.

> just use X because we don't want to spend time and effort into fixing Y because Y is proprietary

To be clear, I'm not a maintainer. I don't personally play any games that use anticheat. I did test Multiversus (since it is a smaller game) and was able to confirm that it doesn't get to the menu without DT_HASH and it does with DT_HASH: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/srcpkgs/glibc/patches/0001-Revert-Do-not-use-hash-style-both-for-building-glibc.patch

I'm sorry for making you "thrown round and round into troubleshooting circles" I was hoping it might be something simpler or related to the DT_HASH issue you linked in your initial post.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368572487

Comment:
I think I found the log for EAC, it should be in `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
Here are my logs:
https://gist.github.com/oreo639/7d3d430308bb604efca6a47952c64df9

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368572487

Comment:
I think I may have found the logs for EAC, it should be in `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
Here are my logs:
https://gist.github.com/oreo639/7d3d430308bb604efca6a47952c64df9

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368572487

Comment:
I think I may have found the logs for EAC, it should be in `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
Here are my logs:
https://gist.github.com/oreo639/7d3d430308bb604efca6a47952c64df9

Not sure why it is erroring?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368572487

Comment:
I think I may have found the logs for EAC, it should be in `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
Here are my logs:
https://gist.github.com/oreo639/7d3d430308bb604efca6a47952c64df9

Not sure why it is erroring?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
When running it with proton 6.3 it shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`
When using proton experimental the logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).

There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which shows the following error: `[Connection] Connect result: No error (0) Response Code: 200 Destination IP: 2600:9000:234c:9000:10:ae80:c5c0:93a1`

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
When running it with proton 6.3 it shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`
When using proton experimental the logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).

There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicates no error.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
When running it with proton 6.3 it shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`
When using proton experimental the logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).

There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
When running it with proton 6.3:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
It shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`

When using proton experimental:
The logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).
There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
When running it with proton 6.3:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
It shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`

When using proton experimental:
The logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).
There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

I'll see if I can find anything from the strace output.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f  -o ~/strace.log %command%` to see where it exits? (you would probably want to edit the launch script or add it as launch args)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f -o ~/strace.log %command%` to see where it exits? (you would probably want to edit the launch script or add it as launch args)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
When running it with proton 6.3:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
It shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`

When using proton experimental:
The logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).
There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

I'll see if I can find anything from the strace output.

Edit: I am getting the hash catalogue error when using strace but not when using strace -f, so maybe it is detecting that?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
When running it with proton 6.3:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
It shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`

When using proton experimental:
The logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).
There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

I'll see if I can find anything from the strace output.

Edit: I am not getting the hash catalogue error when using `strace -f`  so maybe it is detecting that?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368530080

Comment:
You can try using `strace -f` to see where it exits? (you would probably want to edit the launch script or add it as launch args)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368575805

Comment:
When running it with proton 6.3:
I found logs at `$HOME/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/1172470/pfx/dosdevices/c:/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat`
It shows the following error `Connect result: Couldn't resolve host name (6) Response Code: 0 Destination IP: Unavailable`

When using proton experimental:
The logs here indicate no error (although the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found" error still show up when trying to start the game).
There are also logs generated at `~/.cache/com.epicgames.easyanticheat/154` when using proton expiremental which also indicate no error.

I'll see if I can find anything from the strace output.

Edit: I am not getting the hash catalogue error when using `strace -f` (and EAC isn't working) so maybe it is detecting that?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369014128

Comment:
Hello, have same troubles here, on Void too, can't play apex or vrchat, I can play Elden Ring but in offline only. 
For Apex replacing the EAC dll/so by the one present in the proton EAC runtime make the game goes past the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found", launching properly, accessing to the loby and all, but after a while it'll kick you out saying that EAC isn't running.

I also want to report that EAC isn't the only thing acting strange on Void, [steamvr](https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamVR-for-Linux/issues/511#issue-1210110962) is too

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369044355

Comment:
reopening because this is not fixed

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369014128

Comment:
Hello, have same troubles here, on Void too, can't play apex or vrchat, I can play Elden Ring but in offline only. 
For Apex replacing the EAC dll/so by the one present in the proton EAC runtime make the game goes past the "Easy Anti-Cheat Hash Catalogue not found", launching properly, accessing to the loby and all, but after a while it'll kick you out saying that EAC isn't running.

I also want to report that EAC isn't the only thing acting strange on Void, [steamvr](https://github.com/ValveSoftware/SteamVR-for-Linux/issues/511#issue-1210110962) is too

(and quick note, yes it do work in flatpak. Thanks for reminding me, i totally forgot steam flatpak existed. But while it's a great workaround, it still suck that it just dont work by default)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369150572

Comment:
Actually the issue seems to be the compination of eac and our glibc, did setup a quick chroot and changing the glibc to the one from arch satisfies eac, using the void one doesn't :shrug: 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369199300

Comment:
what is very strange is that: 
- I was using glibc 2.32 until now (which *isnt* a version of glibc known for troubles with EAC afaik)
- I just upgraded to 2.36, which is known to be problematic *but* that seems to be patched: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/tree/master/srcpkgs/glibc/patches

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369199300

Comment:
what is very strange is that: 
- I was using glibc 2.32 until now (which *isnt* a version of glibc known for troubles with EAC afaik)
- I just upgraded to 2.36, which is known to be problematic *but* that seems to be patched: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/tree/master/srcpkgs/glibc/patches

and that so in both case its broken

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369370906

Comment:
I've read through some of the links on this page and, transitively, an essay at https://maskray.me/blog/2022-08-21-glibc-and-dt-gnu-hash that leaves me wondering:
1. Why we carry a patch attempting to revert the linker change contrary to our usual deference to upstream. They have been aware of this problem for months and are apparently uninterested in the issue or reverting the change.
2. Why this issue isn't closed as WONTFIX with a note that EAC needs to fix its shit. The patch doesn't fix Void-packaged software, it fixes proprietary software fetched optionally by one of our packages. Furthermore, as already noted, there are alternatives like flatpak while people bother the EAC people to fix what broke.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369393448

Comment:
> Why we carry a patch attempting to revert the linker change contrary to our usual deference to upstream. They have been aware of this problem for months and are apparently uninterested in the issue or reverting the change.

I assume you are referring to:
https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-August/141304.html

> At present I would not make any changes to glibc. I would close bug 29456
as RESOLVED/WONTFIX. I'm open to hearing from the EPIC EAC developers 
if they have a case to make about DT_HASH.

Carlos later said:
https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-September/142353.html

> The fix is available in version 1.15.2 of the EOS SDK and in the new
> corresponding version of the anti-cheat module. This was released in August.
> 
> Fixing this issue though requires several steps that need to be taken by the
> developers of the game itself.
>... 
>Looking across the distributions some of them are carrying a revert that adds
>back DT_HASH. Therefore I think it would help the distributions and add
>back DT_HASH support for a longer period of time before final removal.
>
>I don't think this will solve all the problems, but I will work to test out
>the revert on my Fedora system.

Carlos added a temporary revert for DT_HASH in Fedora:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/c/a9713abfbd4db4350fbc201e4d5cd6ddc36cfd27?branch=f37

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369403398

Comment:
I'm referring to the fact that the upstream issue at https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29456 remains open and unassigned five months after it was reported. 

Whether other distributions carry a patch to revert the change is irrelevant here. Void favors upstream decisions and eschews patches unless they are backport as of upstream changes or fix issues introduced specifically by our packaging. This is neither. Upstream made a change to drop support for DT_HASH and continues to stand by it. We should be uninterested in fixing this problem until either upstream reverts the patch (in which case we can backport it if we don't want to wait for the next release) or EAC is fixed to support the glibc change (in which case the problem goes away entirely).

This is not our problem to fix.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369403398

Comment:
I'm referring to the fact that the upstream issue at https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29456 remains open and unassigned five months after it was reported. 

Whether other distributions carry a patch to revert the change is irrelevant here. Void favors upstream decisions and eschews patches unless they are backports of upstream changes or fix issues introduced specifically by our packaging. This is neither. Upstream made a change to drop support for DT_HASH and continues to stand by it. We should be uninterested in fixing this problem until either upstream reverts the patch (in which case we can backport it if we don't want to wait for the next release) or EAC is fixed to support the glibc change (in which case the problem goes away entirely).

This is not our problem to fix.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1436091631

Comment:
It is not a "violation" of upstream decisions/policies to use the provided option to include DT_HASH, since they give you the option to compile it in.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1436091631

Comment:
It is not a "violation" of upstream decisions/policies to use the provided option to include DT_HASH, since they give you the option to compile it in.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by dsemy on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1441594609

Comment:
> I'm referring to the fact that the upstream issue at https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29456 remains open and unassigned five months after it was reported.
> 
> Whether other distributions carry a patch to revert the change is irrelevant here. Void favors upstream decisions and eschews patches unless they are backports of upstream changes or fix issues introduced specifically by our packaging. This is neither. Upstream made a change to drop support for DT_HASH and continues to stand by it. We should be uninterested in fixing this problem until either upstream reverts the patch (in which case we can backport it if we don't want to wait for the next release) or EAC is fixed to support the glibc change (in which case the problem goes away entirely).
> 
> This is not our problem to fix.

This issue isn't caused because support for DT_HASH was dropped though; as other comments indicate, Easy Anti Cheat has been broken on Void since at least glibc 2.32.  After all, the current glibc package does contain this patch and yet EAC is still broken.  IOW, discussion about this patch is off-topic and would be better suited in a separate issue IMO.

I'm posting this mainly because as a user your comment (being the last one in the chain) made me think that the issue is related to the glibc 2.36 update, when it isn't actually.  This discouraged me from attempting to troubleshoot it on my own, which seems counter-productive to me (although admittedly I didn't get very far when I did try troubleshooting on my own).  This is significant, as currently Void is the only distribution I am aware of in which EAC is broken despite the aforementioned patch being applied.

In any case, I would very much like to see this issue fixed, and I would be glad to help with any testing (I own Elden Ring and Fall Guys on Steam, both of which use EAC unfortunately).

BTW, I don't use the Steam Flatpak since I also use Steam as a launcher for emulated games - setting this up is very complicated with the Flatpak version (Flatpak in general is way too complicated IMO, so I'd prefer to avoid it  if possible).

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1583003911

Comment:
How i can install eac supported version of glibc so i can play games?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1605441818

Comment:
I'm writing this just to draw more attention to this bug.
Despite having a patch, EAC games still won't run (Apex Legends in my case).
Other distributions run it without problems, so it's definitely a Void bug.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1605441818

Comment:
I'm writing this just to draw more attention to this bug.
Despite having a patch, EAC games still won't run (Apex Legends in my case).
Other distributions run it without problems, so it's definitely a Void bug.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1712313586

Comment:
small update on my end, 
especially about https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369014128
steamvr was probably not a void issue, just steamvr breaking up on some specific configuration im guessing. I was able to run just fine last public release, use it with alvr, get in vr, even launch vrchat without any troubles.
Tho so vrchat didnt run properly because EAC is still broken unfortunaly :v

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[Naia-love]

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1712313586

Comment:
small update on my end, 
especially about https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369014128
steamvr was probably not a void issue, just steamvr breaking up on some specific configuration im guessing. I was able to run just fine last public release, use it with alvr, get in vr, even launch vrchat without any troubles.
Tho so vrchat dont run properly because EAC is still broken unfortunately :v

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[Naia-love]

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1712313586

Comment:
small update on my end, 
especially about https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369014128
steamvr was probably not a void issue, just steamvr breaking up on some specific configuration im guessing. I was able to run just fine last public release, use it with alvr, get in vr, even launch vrchat without any troubles.
Tho so vrchat dont run properly because EAC is still broken unfortunately :v
(also no steamflatpak its actually complicated as of now for VR, especially on nvidia)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[fanyx]

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New comment by fanyx on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1714242048

Comment:
bumping @oreo639 

Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?
I've found the "Hash catalogue not found" error to be present in Dead by Daylight as well.
Fall Guys works without any issues though.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1732264959

Comment:
soo i have multiple EAC games, most of which don't run (for years now, so pretty sure not DT_HASH related) despite *everyone* telling me they should, the fact that steamflatpak seems to help some people points at some other library being borked but i'm not sure how to investigate further, please someone tell me how i can help figure this out finally? :(

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1732264959

Comment:
soo i have multiple EAC games, most of which don't run (for years now, so pretty sure not DT_HASH related) despite *everyone* telling me they should, the fact that steamflatpak seems to help some people points at some other library being borked but i'm not sure how to investigate further, please someone tell me if i can help figure this out finally? am happy to do a bunch of tests and provide logs and whathaveya, just wish this worked for once :(

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1732264959

Comment:
soo i have multiple EAC games, most of which don't run (for years now, so pretty sure not DT_HASH related) despite *everyone* telling me they should, the fact that steamflatpak seems to help some people points at some other library being borked but i'm not sure how to investigate further, please someone tell me if i can help figure this out finally? am happy to do a bunch of tests and provide logs and whathaveya, just no idea where to start (given anticheat stuff is a black box by design) and wish this worked for once :(

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1732264959

Comment:
soo i have multiple EAC games, most (if not all; didn't check them all lately) of which don't run (for years now, so pretty sure not DT_HASH related) despite *everyone* telling me they should, the fact that steamflatpak seems to help some people points at some other library being borked but i'm not sure how to investigate further, please someone tell me if i can help figure this out finally? am happy to do a bunch of tests and provide logs and whathaveya, just no idea where to start (given anticheat stuff is a black box by design) and wish this worked for once :(

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template (keep in mind that EAC checks both the 64-bit and 32-bit glibcs):
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template (keep in mind that EAC checks both the 64-bit and 32-bit glibcs):
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was, only that it is related to our glibc.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template (keep in mind that EAC checks both the 64-bit and 32-bit glibcs):
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was, only that it is related to glibc and not some other library.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template (keep in mind that EAC checks both the 64-bit and 32-bit glibcs):
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a Void user and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, no I couldn't figure out what the issue was, only that it is related to glibc and not some other library (as demonstrated by Johnnynator).

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Comment:
Btw, just I removed the patch since I couldn't figure out how to make EAC work regardless of what flags I used and I am not aware of anything fixed by the DT_HASH patch (since most EAC games don't work with Void's glibc regardless. Feel free to let me know if there are breakages after upgrading glibc, e.g. worked before updating but not afterwords).

If you still want to test with DT_HASH enabled you can enable it by copying these two lines before the `make` call in `do_buld()` in the glibc template (keep in mind that EAC checks both the 64-bit and 32-bit glibcs):
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glibc/blob/ca9e6ac79501d9ee8eeaf795c5764d8733534910/f/glibc.spec#_1219

> Were you or another member of the Void team able to find any leads on this?

Just to clarify, I am just a contributor and not a part of the void-team organization. Also, I couldn't figure out what the issue was, only that it is related to glibc and not some other library (as demonstrated by Johnnynator).

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[dexgs]

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New comment by dexgs on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869819631

Comment:
I have tried intermittently to fix this myself by getting the configure arguments as close to those on Arch and Fedora as possible (as well as numerous other changes) and this hasn't worked.

As Johnnynator said previously, EAC works as expected if you use the build from Arch Linux. There is a problem with Void's build of glibc that is not present on other distributions.

Given that no progress has been made in the year since this issue has been opened, and that those affected stand basically 0 chance of resolving this on their own, is it possible to reach out to knowledgeable glibc maintainers from other distributions to shed some light on this problem?

It's good that users can circumvent this problem using flatpak or another distribution's glibc, but this is far from ideal.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[dexgs]

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New comment by dexgs on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869819631

Comment:
I have tried intermittently to fix this myself by getting the configure arguments as close to those on Arch and Fedora as possible (as well as numerous other changes) and this hasn't worked.

As Johnnynator said previously, EAC works as expected if you use the build from Arch Linux. There is a problem with Void's build of glibc that is not present on other distributions.

Given that no progress has been made in the year since this issue has been opened, and that those affected stand basically 0 chance of resolving this on their own, is it possible to reach out to knowledgeable glibc maintainers from other distributions to shed some light on this problem?

It's good that users can circumvent this problem using flatpak or another distribution's glibc, but this is far from ideal.

EDIT: in case this goes anywhere, the one interesting thing I found that is not already mentioned is that arch's libc.so.6 has a `.gnu_debuglink` section while void's does not. void also has a `.plt.got` section while arch has a `.plt.sec` section.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[okawo80085]

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873340478

Comment:
Well, updating `glibc` to the recently merged 2.38_2 version that has the fix for EAC to not crash brings it back to life, and it does start now, only issue is that it fails with a network error now x)
![image](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/43695253/c64abcac-f96f-4654-8113-4ee7c979ea84)
Which is weird, cuz looking at EAC logs it finishes the download, but the callback throws an error?
```
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 90
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] [Connection] Connect result: No error (0) Response Code: 200 Destination IP: 18.244.146.77
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.01-13.37.29] [EAC Callback] Code: 509. Message: 'Unexpected error. (#1)'.
```
Not sure if its related to the new `glibc` update, it did disable cryptography functionality from `glibc` and instead moved it to `libxcrypt` , you can find more in the `glibc` package MR https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/45501

I wonder if preloading steam with `libxcrypt` will help it :thinking: 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873529130

Comment:
libxcrypt is specifically for encrypting passwords. For most cryptography, openssl is used. It is likely unrelated.
Afaict libcrypt.so is not used or checked by EAC.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873529130

Comment:
libxcrypt is specifically for encrypting passwords. For most cryptography, openssl is used. It is likely unrelated.
Also, afaict libcrypt.so is not used or checked by EAC.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873529130

Comment:
libxcrypt is specifically for encrypting and hashing passwords. For most cryptography, openssl is used. It is likely unrelated.
Also, afaict libcrypt.so is not used or checked by EAC.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873529130

Comment:
libxcrypt is specifically for hashing passwords. For most cryptography, openssl is used. It is likely unrelated.
Also, afaict libcrypt.so is not used or checked by EAC.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[okawo80085]

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873541184

Comment:
Well idk it doesn't like then, all the links its checking are fine, i can even see in the logs from EAC that it finishes the download it was doing, but it still fails with that error :woman_shrugging: 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[okawo80085]

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1873541184

Comment:
Well idk what it doesn't like then, all the links its checking are fine, i can even see in the logs from EAC that it finishes the download it was doing, but it still fails with that error :woman_shrugging: 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by HO5DTOAT on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880509795

Comment:
I am getting a similar EAC error when trying to run [Brawlhalla](https://store.steampowered.com/app/291550/Brawlhalla/). I tried both Steam with Proton experimental as well as Lutris with Ubisoft Connect and got the same error. This started happening after the glibc 2.38 update.
![image](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/101270121/ff9db577-b009-4740-922b-3afd192be25e)


In the EAC logs folder of the game (`~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/291550/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/EasyAntiCheat/2a5901f5be6545b39f551a92214978d6/e7e719b170b74c18b89ba4f3cccd4fdc/loader.log`) , I can see the download success followed by the error message.

```
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 99
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 99
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 99
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] [Connection] Connect result: No error (0) Response Code: 200 Destination IP: 18.66.57.4
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] Download Progress: 100
[2024.01.08-13.09.03] [EAC Callback] Code: 507. Message: 'Failed to load the anti-cheat module.'.
```

In my system which has the glibc 2.38. I can see only the `.gnu.hash` entries.
![image](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/101270121/30bd4e74-6170-4d25-b019-af72bfd7f18f)

Checking the commit history for glibc. it seems the patch that enabled DT_HASH is not present in the 2.38 commit https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/ee93adc0af49c8f3825dff7e3c6c7dbc40ef4b70. Could that be causing the issue again?
![image](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/101270121/f5097ebf-ecaf-45fa-b5b6-46c211890658)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla is an EAC game that works on Void's glibc with DT_HASH.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla is an EAC game that does launch on Void's glibc with DT_HASH enabled. Although it also supports `-noeac` and I haven't checked it fully.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla is an EAC game that does launch on Void's glibc with DT_HASH enabled. Although it also seems to work with `-noeac`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla is an EAC game that does launch on Void's glibc with DT_HASH enabled. although I haven't tested ranked mode. You can launch the game with `-noeac`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla is an EAC game that does launch on Void's glibc with DT_HASH enabled, although I haven't tested ranked mode. You can launch the game with `-noeac`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla does work on glibc with DT_HASH enabled.

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla does work on glibc with DT_HASH enabled.
If you don't want to play ranked mode, there is also `-noeac`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1880543667

Comment:
Thank you, I can confirm that Brawlhalla does work on glibc with DT_HASH enabled (including ranked).
If you don't want to play ranked mode, there is also `-noeac`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Comment:
> EDIT: in case this goes anywhere, the one interesting thing I found that is not already mentioned is that arch's libc.so.6 has a `.gnu_debuglink` section while void's does not. void also has a `.plt.got` section while arch has a `.plt.sec` section.

I got compiled a glibc in xbps with the same sections as Arch Linux (same flags and same stripping) and it still errors. `diff -rup <(readelf -S libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge') <(readelf -S /usr/lib/libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge')`

I tested further using bwrap and overlayfs, and launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6 (nothing else seemed to affect anything) does allow EAC games to work (with DT_HASH in the system glibc ofc) even when swapping the libc.so.6 with the system one before launching the game. I am still not sure what the error is.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Comment:
> EDIT: in case this goes anywhere, the one interesting thing I found that is not already mentioned is that arch's libc.so.6 has a `.gnu_debuglink` section while void's does not. void also has a `.plt.got` section while arch has a `.plt.sec` section.

I compiled a glibc in xbps with the same sections as Arch Linux (same flags and same stripping) and it still errors. `diff -rup <(readelf -S libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge') <(readelf -S /usr/lib/libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge')`

I tested further using bwrap and overlayfs, and launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6 (nothing else seemed to affect anything) does allow EAC games to work (with DT_HASH in the system glibc ofc) even when swapping the libc.so.6 with the system one before launching the game. I am still not sure what the error is.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Comment:
> EDIT: in case this goes anywhere, the one interesting thing I found that is not already mentioned is that arch's libc.so.6 has a `.gnu_debuglink` section while void's does not. void also has a `.plt.got` section while arch has a `.plt.sec` section.

I compiled a glibc in xbps with the same sections as Arch Linux (same flags and same stripping) and it still errors. Verified using `diff -rup <(readelf -S libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge') <(readelf -S /usr/lib/libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge')`.

I tested further using bwrap and overlayfs, and launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6 (nothing else seemed to affect anything) does allow EAC games to work (with DT_HASH in the system glibc ofc) even when swapping the libc.so.6 with the system one before launching the game. I am still not sure what the error is.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Comment:
> EDIT: in case this goes anywhere, the one interesting thing I found that is not already mentioned is that arch's libc.so.6 has a `.gnu_debuglink` section while void's does not. void also has a `.plt.got` section while arch has a `.plt.sec` section.

I compiled a glibc in xbps with the same sections as Arch Linux (same flags and same stripping) and it still errors. Verified using `diff -rup <(readelf -S libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge') <(readelf -S /usr/lib/libc.so.6 | grep "\[[0-9]*\]" | sed -r 's/([^.]*)(\.[^ ]*)(.*)/echo "\2"/ge')`.

I tested further using bwrap and overlayfs, and launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6 (nothing else seemed to affect anything) does allow EAC games to work (with `.hash` in the system glibc ofc) even when swapping the libc.so.6 with the system one before launching the game. I am still not sure what the error is.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Sapein on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1891025106

Comment:
That is...exceedingly weird. The only thing I can think of is there's some weird difference that's unrelated to the sections that is either incidentally environmental or is expected that Void *doesn't* have...not sure how you would go about solving that though tbqh...

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1891078478

Comment:
Maybe lets try take flatpak's glibc and run and compare it to upstream glibc? Cuz like if flatpak steam works fine lets check what they are doing different compared to our environments

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1891078478

Comment:
Maybe lets try take flatpak's glibc and run and compare it to upstream glibc? Cuz like if on flatpak steam EAC works fine, lets check what they are doing different compared to our environments

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by dexgs on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1899334572

Comment:
> That is...exceedingly weird. The only thing I can think of is there's some weird difference that's unrelated to the sections that is either incidentally environmental or is expected that Void _doesn't_ have...not sure how you would go about solving that though tbqh...

It's something caused by the glibc binary itself. As discussed previously, if you swap out glibc with the files from arch linux, EAC works as expected

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those), and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single `.so`.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the DT_HASH thing, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those), and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single `.so`.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those), and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single libc.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those) with the "verified that i built it the same and it doesn't work", and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single libc.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those) with the "verified that i built it the same and it doesn't work", and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single libc.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

i'm not saying it can't be the glibc, but all the experimentation say it definitely can't be DT_HASH, and it most likely isn't anything else "meta" about it. so short of EAC parsing opcodes in glibc like some weirdo antivirus thing and shitting itself because we ran an optimizer slightly different or such, it sounds more likely to be at least not glibc's fault *alone*.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those) with the "verified that i built it the same and it doesn't work", and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single libc.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

i'm not saying it can't be the glibc, but all the experimentation say it definitely can't be (only) DT_HASH, and it most likely isn't anything else "meta" about it. so short of EAC parsing opcodes in glibc like some weirdo antivirus thing and shitting itself because we ran an optimizer slightly different or such, it sounds more likely to be at least not glibc's fault *alone*.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900266306

Comment:
@dexgs are we **sure** on that though? definitely not how i'd read @oreo639's last comment (or literally any of the others trying to compare/replace those) with the "verified that i built it the same and it doesn't work", and all @Johnnynator said was they "set up a chroot" without details as to *what* was setup *how*, and those usually contain more than just a single libc.

and we've already proven it's unrelated to the existence or absence or naming or format of DT_HASH sections, the thing everyone keeps blaming here for no reason whatsoever.

i'm not saying it can't be the glibc, but all the experimentation say it definitely can't be (only) DT_HASH, and it most likely isn't anything else "meta" about it. so short of EAC parsing opcodes in glibc like some weirdo antivirus thing and shitting itself because we ran an optimizer slightly different or such (though on second thought, i wouldn't put it 100% past them), it sounds more likely to be at least not glibc's fault *alone*.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by fanyx on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1900363737

Comment:
Do any signs point to anything other than glibc?
It does get more and more nebulous now that people have tested newly compiled, other distro's, sandboxed, etc. libc's

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by uniboi on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1902754498

Comment:
I was able to work around the issue before glibc 2.37 was availabe via xbps by compiling the glibc version I needed and running steam like this `D_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/glibc-2.37-32bit/lib steam`.
Today I finally updated glibc to 2.38 with xbps-install but I still get the Hash Catalogue not found error for EAC games.
My workaround stopped working too, the steam UI now segfaults lol.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by uniboi on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1902754498

Comment:
I was able to work around the issue before glibc 2.37 was availabe via xbps by compiling the glibc version I needed and running steam like this `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/glibc-2.37-32bit/lib steam`.
Today I finally updated glibc to 2.38 with xbps-install but I still get the Hash Catalogue not found error for EAC games.
My workaround stopped working too, the steam UI now segfaults lol.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by uniboi on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1902754498

Comment:
I was able to work around the issue before glibc 2.37 was availabe via xbps by compiling the glibc version I needed and running steam like this `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/glibc-2.37-32bit/lib steam`.
Today I finally updated glibc to 2.38 with xbps-install but I still get the Hash Catalogue not found error for EAC games.
My workaround stopped working too, the steam UI now segfaults lol.

I just tried the workaround again with glibc 2.38, the steam UI now works but I still get the hash catalogue error.

I compiled glibc like this for 2.37 and 2.38
```
git clone https://sourceware.org/git/glibc.git
mkdir glibc/build
cd build/build
../configure --prefix=/opt/glibc-2.38-32bit --enable-multi-arch --host=$LFS_TGT32
make -j4
sudo make install
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by uniboi on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1902754498

Comment:
I was able to work around the issue before glibc 2.37 was availabe via xbps by compiling the glibc version I needed and running steam like this `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/glibc-2.37-32bit/lib steam`.
Today I finally updated glibc to 2.38 with xbps-install but I still get the Hash Catalogue not found error for EAC games.
My workaround stopped working too, the steam UI now segfaults lol.

~~I just tried the workaround again with glibc 2.38, the steam UI now works but I still get the hash catalogue error.~~

I compiled glibc like this for 2.37 and 2.38
```
git clone https://sourceware.org/git/glibc.git
mkdir glibc/build
cd build/build
../configure --prefix=/opt/glibc-2.38-32bit --enable-multi-arch --host=$LFS_TGT32
make -j4
sudo make install
```

The workaround still works with a new compiled copy of glibc 2.38, I just misspelled the environment variable before.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by dexgs on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1903140404

Comment:
> @dexgs are we **sure** on that though?

Yes, I managed to get EAC to work by taking the `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2` and `libc.so.6` binaries from Arch Linux and putting them into `/usr/lib`

I don't recommend doing this because it is very easy to break your install this way, but it confirms that it is specifically Void's glibc binaries which cause the problem.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1905598539

Comment:
> `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2`

...isn't glibc, so that's good to know. do you want to maybe elaborate on the reasoning / your findings? we got multiple conflicting findings about "arch's glibc" (and nothing as to how that even differs from ours), one person claiming that simply compiling with pretty much default options fixes everything *after* another says that compiling with the options arch itself uses *doesn't* fix anything. and now you're answering "can we be sure it's that exact issue with that exact file" with "yeah totally because i replaced a different one and it works now", that honestly doesn't sound like it answers anything :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1905598539

Comment:
> `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2`

...isn't glibc, so that's good to know. do you want to maybe elaborate on the reasoning / your findings? we got multiple conflicting findings about "arch's glibc" (and nothing as to how that even differs from ours), one person claiming that simply compiling with pretty much default options (including a "not misspelled variable" that literally does not exist in any void setup i've ever seen) fixes everything *after* another says that compiling with the options arch itself uses *doesn't* fix anything. and now you're answering "can we be sure it's that exact issue with that exact file" with "yeah totally because i replaced a different one and it works now", that honestly doesn't sound like it answers anything :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1905598539

Comment:
> `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2` and `libc.so.6`

...isn't a full glibc install, so that's interesting to know... do you want to maybe elaborate on the reasoning / your findings picking those two? we got multiple conflicting findings about "arch's glibc" (and nothing as to how that even differs from ours), one person claiming that simply compiling with pretty much default options (including a "not misspelled variable" that literally does not exist in any void setup i've ever seen) fixes everything *after* another says that compiling with the options arch itself uses *doesn't* fix anything. and now you're answering "can we be sure it's that exact issue with that exact file" with "yeah totally because i replaced a different one and it works now", that honestly doesn't sound like it answers anything :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1905598539

Comment:
> `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2` and `libc.so.6`

...isn't a full glibc install, so that's interesting to know... do you want to maybe elaborate on the reasoning / your findings picking those two? we got multiple conflicting findings about "arch's glibc" (and nothing as to how that even differs from ours), one person claiming that simply compiling with pretty much default options (including a "not misspelled variable" that literally does not exist in any void setup i've ever seen) fixes everything *after* another says that compiling with the options arch itself uses *doesn't* fix anything. and now you're answering "can we be sure it's that exact issue with that exact file" with "yeah totally because i replaced a different one and it works now", that honestly doesn't sound like it answers much :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1905598539

Comment:
> `ld-linux-x86-64.so.2` and `libc.so.6`

...isn't a full glibc install, so that's interesting to know... do you want to maybe elaborate on the reasoning / your findings picking those two? we got multiple conflicting findings about "arch's glibc" (and nothing as to how that even differs from ours), one person claiming that simply compiling with pretty much default options (including a "not misspelled variable" that literally does not exist in any void setup i've ever seen) fixes everything *after* another says that compiling with the options arch itself uses *doesn't* fix anything. and now you're answering "can we be sure it's that exact issue with that exact file" with "yeah totally because i replaced *2 files* and it works now", that honestly doesn't sound like it answers much :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by uniboi on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1902754498

Comment:
I was able to work around the issue before glibc 2.37 was availabe via xbps by compiling the glibc version I needed and running steam like this `LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/glibc-2.37-32bit/lib steam`.
Today I finally updated glibc to 2.38 with xbps-install but I still get the Hash Catalogue not found error for EAC games.
My workaround stopped working too, the steam UI now segfaults lol.

~~I just tried the workaround again with glibc 2.38, the steam UI now works but I still get the hash catalogue error.~~

I compiled glibc like this for 2.37 and 2.38
```
git clone https://sourceware.org/git/glibc.git
mkdir glibc/build
cd glibc/build
../configure --prefix=/opt/glibc-2.38-32bit --enable-multi-arch --host=$LFS_TGT32
make -j4
sudo make install
```

The workaround still works with a new compiled copy of glibc 2.38, I just misspelled the environment variable before.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by dexgs on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1906030450

Comment:
No, sorry. I picked those two after asking @Johnnynator what he did, maybe he can explain why in more detail.

You're right that maybe the problem is caused by `ld-linux` but from what I remember, the system won't boot if the loader doesn't match `libc.so`, so there's no easy way to test "just" `libc.so`. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is the minimum files that can be taken from Arch while still having a bootable system.

My point about it being fixed with "just" the 2 files from Arch is that it demonstrates that the problem is not some environmental difference between Void and other distros, it is specifically an issue with Void's build of glibc.

As per the conflicting reports, I think one person is saying that they modified the xbps template to match Arch's build options as closely as possible while the other is saying they did a build of glibc without creating an xbps package.

Based on this, it seems like maybe the problem is caused by some automatic step in xbps (some symbol gets stripped which shouldn't, or something like that).

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909055312

Comment:
> Well, updating `glibc` to the recently merged 2.38_2 version that has the fix for EAC to not crash brings it back to life, and it does start now, only issue is that it fails with a network error now x) ![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/43695253/293589005-c64abcac-f96f-4654-8113-4ee7c979ea84.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.ig3-nqutrTJjnzF68zTyovifcjZ2c-5wpqFPo87ldW8) Which is weird, cuz looking at EAC logs it finishes the download, but the callback throws an error?
> 
> ```
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 90
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] [Connection] Connect result: No error (0) Response Code: 200 Destination IP: 18.244.146.77
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] [EAC Callback] Code: 509. Message: 'Unexpected error. (#1)'.
> ```
> 
> Not sure if its related to the new `glibc` update, it did disable cryptography functionality from `glibc` and instead moved it to `libxcrypt` , you can find more in the `glibc` package MR #45501
> 
> I wonder if preloading steam with `libxcrypt` will help it 🤔

I thought i was going crazy there... So it is a glibc problem specific to void ?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909592315

Comment:
@SpidFightFR yknow, it generally helps not to copypaste a 20+ line comment wholesale just to ask a single *obvious* and already answered *in the comment(s) right above yours* question? especially if the comment you chose to copypaste is pretty much exclusively outdated information/speculation from before we knew more about the issue? for general sanity sake and such.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909592315

Comment:
@SpidFightFR yknow, it generally helps not to copypaste a 20 line comment wholesale just to ask a single *obvious* and already answered *in the comment(s) right above yours* question? especially if the comment you chose to copypaste is pretty much exclusively outdated information/speculation from before we knew more about the issue? for general sanity sake and such.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909592315

Comment:
@SpidFightFR yknow, it generally helps not to copypaste a 20 line comment wholesale just to ask a single *obvious* and already answered *in the comment(s) all the way back to the start and reconfirmed with more detail right above yours* question? especially if the comment you chose to copypaste is pretty much exclusively outdated information/speculation from before we knew more about the issue? for general sanity sake and such.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by SpidFightFR on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909055312

Comment:
> Well, updating `glibc` to the recently merged 2.38_2 version that has the fix for EAC to not crash brings it back to life, and it does start now, only issue is that it fails with a network error now x) ![image](https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/43695253/293589005-c64abcac-f96f-4654-8113-4ee7c979ea84.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.ig3-nqutrTJjnzF68zTyovifcjZ2c-5wpqFPo87ldW8) Which is weird, cuz looking at EAC logs it finishes the download, but the callback throws an error?
> 
> ```
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 90
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] [Connection] Connect result: No error (0) Response Code: 200 Destination IP: 18.244.146.77
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] Download Progress: 100
> [2024.01.01-13.37.29] [EAC Callback] Code: 509. Message: 'Unexpected error. (#1)'.
> ```
> 
> Not sure if its related to the new `glibc` update, it did disable cryptography functionality from `glibc` and instead moved it to `libxcrypt` , you can find more in the `glibc` package MR #45501
> 
> I wonder if preloading steam with `libxcrypt` will help it 🤔

I thought i was going crazy there... So it is a glibc problem specific to void ?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909592315

Comment:
@SpidFightFR yknow, it generally helps not to copypaste a 20 line comment wholesale just to ask a single *obvious* and already answered *in the comment(s) all the way back to the start and reconfirmed with more detail right above yours* question? especially if the comment you chose to copypaste is pretty much exclusively outdated information/speculation from before we knew more about the issue? for general sanity sake and such.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909823808

Comment:
https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/f36d21c5a25e24a15a740b83f0847956a1c1b146

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909838671

Comment:
@classabbyamp https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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Comment:
@classabbyamp https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1368376502 https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369199300 https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1869486831

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
btw i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so here's a diff from their to our sections:

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ GLIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
btw i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338 above)

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ GLIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338 above)

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ GLIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ GLIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nekopsykose on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909927839

Comment:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```

the former is from -fcf-protection (iirc). arch has that in default cflags. probably doesn't matter, but you can rebuild passing that and see

```
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
```

this is --enable-systemtap and also probably doesn't matter

```
-.gnu_debuglink
```

this is for split debuginfo (here it's not split)

```
-.gnu.version_r
```

this is a symver thing. might matter, but this one is optional https://maskray.me/blog/2020-11-26-all-about-symbol-versioning


```
-.relr.dyn
```

this is ldflags -Wl,-z,pack-relative-relocs which arch now enables and most likely makes no difference (very recent from arch side)


overall it might not be related to those at all

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "shall contain required symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

The:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```
has to do with Arch using `-fno-plt`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Also, the:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```
has to do with Arch using `-fno-plt`.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r`, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it.

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some facts to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r`, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it.

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Also, the:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```
has to do with Arch using `-fno-plt`.

Also when I say "launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6" I just meant libc.so.6, I was using bubblewrap with an overlayfs script. 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "shall contain required symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)


and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "**shall** contain **required** symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)


and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r`, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Also, the:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```
has to do with Arch using `-fno-plt`.

Also when I say "launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6" I just meant libc.so.6, I was using bubblewrap with an overlayfs script and swapping it after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the `.hash` checks which are performed when launching the game.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[oreo639]

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New comment by oreo639 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909932561

Comment:
I already tested those: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338

Also, the:
```
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
```
has to do with Arch using `-fno-plt`.

Also when I say "launching steam using Arch Linux's libc.so.6" I just meant libc.so.6, I was using bubblewrap with an overlayfs script and swapping the libc after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the `.hash` checks which are performed when launching the game.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt" :'D)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt")

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt")

> swapping the libc after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the .hash checks which are performed when launching the game.

wait, am i reading that wrong or does that mean EAC does something to the libc *linking steam itself* instead of the game?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB (the way i understand the blogpost you linked to it's optional for "a libc" to have+support it, but glibc seems to *usually* have and its linker *does* support it) so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt")

> swapping the libc after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the .hash checks which are performed when launching the game.

wait, am i reading that wrong or does that mean EAC does something to the libc *linking steam itself* instead of the game?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nekopsykose]

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New comment by nekopsykose on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1910097809

Comment:
> I already tested those: 

ah right, not any of those then, sorry for the noise :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB (the way i understand the blogpost you linked to it's optional for "a libc" to have+support it, but glibc seems to *usually* have and its linker *does* support it) so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt")

> swapping the libc after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the .hash checks which are performed when launching the game.

wait, am i reading that wrong or does that mean EAC does something to the libc *linking steam itself* instead of the game? or does bubblewrap potentially only affect a certain process tree / namespace / etc?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909937322

Comment:
@nekopsykose thanks for your insight, my current best bet is on `.gnu.version_r` if i had to pick one, because it's very much **not** optional according to LSB (the way i understand the blogpost you linked to it's optional for "a libc" to have+support it, but glibc seems to *usually* have and its linker *does* support it) so there's a decent chance a "reasonable person" (and even an unreasonable ~~malware~~*anticheat* developer) might expect it. but like you say it might well not be any section difference, i just wanted to list them "for the record". i could just as likely see EAC accidentally triggering on some weird optimizer difference resulting in "suspicious" codegen or such :'D

@oreo639 i know you already did some tests, but you didn't show the details, and a lot of various quality levels of info are around on the googles about this topic, so i figured it doesn't hurt to start collecting some "hard facts" from some known good/bad samples, to make sure we're on a similar page to rule out or home in on the potential causes. (also offtopic but gotta love that "no-plt" means "use a different kind of plt")

> swapping the libc after launching steam didn't affect anything until restarting steam as opposed to the .hash checks which are performed when launching the game.

wait, am i reading that wrong or does that mean EAC does something to the libc *linking steam itself* instead of the game?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[okawo80085]

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1915822766

Comment:
Lmfaoooooooooo, so with `glibc-2.38_4`, current latest upstream version of glibc and Proton Experimental, EAC doesn't crash anymore, BUT it kicks you from game like a minute or so after start of the match cuz it fails anticheat authentication x)
Gonna try with some other proton versions in a bit, but really not sure where to start with the failed authentication stuff, cuz there is nothing wrong in the eac logs now :/

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1915841791

Comment:
Ohhhhh, looking at the steam client terminal output when i run the game with GE-Proton8.27, found this gem
```

LogActor: Warning: SetReplicates called on non-initialized actor BP_Projectile_M18_C_2147460702. Direct
ly setting bReplicates is the correct procedure for pre-init actors.


LogNet: Warning: UNetDriver::ProcessRemoteFunction: No owning connection for actor BP_Character_Player_
C_2147476777. Function ServerSetCameraIsTargetingKillLocation will not be processed.


LogINSPlayerController: Display: Kicked by server: Anti-Cheat: Authentication timed out (1/2).
LogNet: Error: UEngine::BroadcastNetworkFailure: FailureType = ConnectionLost, ErrorString = Your conne
ction to the host has been lost., Driver = GameNetDriver IpNetDriver_2147477057
LogNet: Warning: Network Failure: GameNetDriver[ConnectionLost]: Your connection to the host has been l
ost.
LogINSParty: Warning: EndCurrentMatch : Reset latest party data.
LogStreaming: Display: FlushAsyncLoading: 1 QueuedPackages, 0 AsyncPackages
LogLoad: Warning: UINSGameInstance::OnPreLoadMap: Invalid NextURL, loading /Game/Maps/Utility/Entry
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: EndSessionClient : Result : (EOS_InvalidParameters)
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: BeginSessionClient : Result : (EOS_InvalidParameters)

```
Anyone seen anything like this before?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1916335444

Comment:
> Lmfaoooooooooo, so with `glibc-2.38_4`, current latest upstream version of glibc and Proton Experimental, EAC doesn't crash anymore, BUT it kicks you from game like a minute or so after start of the match cuz it fails anticheat authentication x)
> Gonna try with some other proton versions in a bit, but really not sure where to start with the failed authentication stuff, cuz there is nothing wrong in the eac logs now :/

Have you tried with more than one game ? (that you know it behavior before said update of glibc) or your game got updated? 
because what you're discribing was already something that was happening on some game (ie Vrchat, and that for at least as long as i started contributing to this issue)
for apex legend iirc it'd happen if you'd move manually the eac library from the proton eac inside the game folder

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1916490088

Comment:
> Anyone seen anything like this before?

@okawo80085 yes, that's the server kicking you for not passing the EAC check, that's what this whole issue is about :D

the crash was just a temporary side effect of it going *even* wronger than usual. or like @Naia-love suggests it might be just the game or proton having been crashy with EAC not even to blame for that part.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1916490088

Comment:
> Anyone seen anything like this before?

@okawo80085 yes, that's the server kicking you for not passing the EAC check (and as usual your log doesn't contain any better info, but dont worry that's not on you, that's just because anticheat "doesn't wanna help you beat it" so just gives you 0 info), that's what this whole issue is about :D

the crash was just a temporary side effect of it going *even* wronger than usual. or like @Naia-love suggests it might be just the game or proton having been crashy with EAC not even to blame for that part.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1918078730

Comment:
Well damn, i ran out of time to test with anything else yesterday, was testing with Insurgency Sandstorm, gonna try to test with a few more EAC games today

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Dekomoro on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1922505535

Comment:
According to an Arch Linux commit(https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/glibc/-/commit/83899c6e216ef04a56f16faaa19fcbf84bd0f799) valve has reported all affected easy anti cheat titles to be patched to not require -hash-style=both.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923377922

Comment:
@Dekomoro yup that confirms the theory we already had that the hash thing is unrelated, because (in my and some others' experience above) EAC *never* really worked on void even tho the hash change only happened last year :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923377922

Comment:
@Dekomoro yup that confirms the theory we already had that the hash thing is not the main cause, because (in my and some others' experience above) EAC *never* really worked on void even tho the hash change only happened last year :P

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
## `#freeDtHash`!

(sorry couldn't resist)  essentially everyone including valve and the concept of linearish time are confirming that `DT_HASH`-related changes are *not* (or at least not the only thing) to blame for our problems. sure it might have made things "worse", but EAC did *not* work even before anyone even thought about that change, and does *not* work after undoing it with a patch, so we know for *sure* that we have another problem causing this issue.

# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "**shall** contain **required** symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)


and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923377922

Comment:
@Dekomoro yup that confirms the theory we already had that the hash thing is not the main cause, because (in my and some others' experience above) EAC *never* really worked on void even tho the hash change only happened last year :P

added it to my big notes list above :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
## `#freeDtHash`!

(sorry couldn't resist)  essentially everyone including [valve](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1922505535) and the concept of linearish time are confirming that `DT_HASH`-related changes are *not* (or at least not the only thing) to blame for our problems. sure it might have made things "worse", but EAC did *not* work even before anyone even thought about that change, and does *not* work after undoing it with a patch, so we know for *sure* that we have another problem causing this issue.

# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "**shall** contain **required** symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)


and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923477838

Comment:
> @Dekomoro yup that confirms the theory we already had that the hash thing is not the main cause, because (in my and some others' experience above) EAC *never* really worked on void even tho the hash change only happened last year :P

not exactly
im sure it worked for a while, 
but it definitively broke before the glibc hash change

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
## `#freeDtHash`!

(sorry couldn't resist)  essentially everyone including [valve](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1922505535) and the concept of linearish time are confirming that `DT_HASH`-related changes are *not* (or at least not the only thing) to blame for our problems. sure it might have made things "worse", but EAC did *not* work even before anyone even thought about that change, and does *not* work after undoing it with a patch, so we know for *sure* that we have another problem causing this issue.

# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "**shall** contain **required** symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)


and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

---

## entropy graphs:

### arch:

![libc_map](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/601018/28fc7adb-6407-4d8a-b4d9-0663d423e9d0)

### void:

![libc_map](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/601018/ce16f8eb-c39d-4046-964f-c479c0eeea78)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923524654

Comment:
@Naia-love wait you're literally one of the sources supporting that conclusion :grin: 
what exactly do you mean by "i'm sure"? like are you guessing or reporting? because i for one have used void-glibc since the release of proton/EAC, and it *never* worked.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923524654

Comment:
@Naia-love wait you're literally one of the sources supporting that conclusion :grin: 
what exactly do you mean by "i'm sure"? like are you guessing or reporting? because i for one have used void-glibc since the release dates of proton and EAC, and it *never* worked.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923524654

Comment:
@Naia-love wait you're literally one of the sources supporting that conclusion :grin: 
what exactly do you mean by "i'm sure"? like are you guessing or reporting? because i for one have used void-glibc since the release dates of proton and EAC, and it *never* worked. like we're talking pre-DXVK already there.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923535508

Comment:
huh?
okay my memory may be wrong then
i recall playing apex on void without using flatpak
but yea been too much time could have been on another distro ig

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923541325

Comment:
I confirm, going through convo with freinds, at least apex did work for a while

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923541325

Comment:
I confirm, going through convo with freinds, at least apex did work for a while

but yes dosent change the fact that its a void problem and isnt link to the hash change (as we already knew since [here](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369199300)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923541325

Comment:
I confirm, going through convo with freinds, at least apex did work for a while

but yes dosent change the fact that its a void problem and isnt linked to the hash change (as we already knew since [here](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1369199300) )

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923554307

Comment:
@Naia-love keep in mind plenty games also release/betatest/etc without malware and only choose to become a broken mess for no decent reason *after* "1.0 release" or "official sale" or whatchamacallit. maybe it used to work because it simply didn't care yet? :D

also apex specifically broke and unbroke their own `anticheat.so` about 20 times so far with what can only be explained by people with zero clue pushing the wrong "release to live without any testing" button, usually then followed by an accidental autoban of the whole customer base, so honestly no idea what they're doing/how reliably/correctly they even use EAC.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923562470

Comment:
> @Naia-love keep in mind plenty games also release/betatest/etc without malware and only choose to become a broken mess for no decent reason _after_ "1.0 release" or "official sale" or whatchamacallit. maybe it used to work because it simply didn't care yet? :D

that not impossible ig, but it do have eac since release, so well xD 
but unfortunaly I havent played any other game with eac at that time (or i cant recall at least), any other eac game i played was after it broke.

> also apex specifically broke and unbroke their own `anticheat.so` about 20 times so far with what can only be explained by people with zero clue pushing the wrong "release to live without any testing" button, usually then followed by an accidental autoban of the whole customer base, so honestly no idea what they're doing/how reliably/correctly they even use EAC.

yes I remember that, most of time just grabbing the eac lib from the proton folder would work tho

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923568918

Comment:
@Naia-love do you happen to remember when abouts that was? could be worth comparing the versions we had back then, maybe we also accidentally unbroke our libc for a while without realizing and rebroke it since :'D

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923568918

Comment:
@Naia-love do you happen to remember when abouts that was (something like "summer last year" should be accurate enough)? could be worth comparing the versions we had back then, maybe we also accidentally unbroke our libc for a while without realizing and rebroke it since :'D

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923583164

Comment:
> @Naia-love do you happen to remember when abouts that was (something like "summer last year" should be accurate enough)? could be worth comparing the versions we had back then, maybe we also accidentally unbroke our libc for a while without realizing and rebroke it since :'D

around start of 2022

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

[nonchip]

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1923622714

Comment:
@oreo639  while i can't confirm that EAC worked for me before that (in fact i know that it *didn't* work for me, but in different games, so might be different reasons?), the first commit after that timeframe would be your [update to 2.36](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/e1e8467efb0bb185ba523885d8d7aacb17753c49), maybe you have some deeper insight? you asked about that version specifically all the way up.

also need to keep in mind though that we can't really know what EAC changed about their "rules" over the time. might well do all kinds of different things depending on the "build config" of the game even.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by nonchip on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1909903575

Comment:
## `#freeDtHash`!

(sorry couldn't resist)  essentially everyone including [valve](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1922505535) and the concept of linearish time are confirming that `DT_HASH`-related changes are *not* (or at least not the only thing) to blame for our problems. sure it might have made things "worse", but EAC did *not* work even before anyone even thought about that change, and does *not* work after undoing it with a patch, so we know for *sure* that we have another problem causing this issue.

# Arch / Void differences

i just got an arch glibc (`2.38-7` pacman) to compare to ours (`2.38_4` xbps), so i'mma just post some findings of differences here, slowly growing this post as i figure out what to look for.

## `file` output

```
ARCH libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=8bfe03f6bf9b6a6e2591babd0bbc266837d8f658, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped
VOID libc.so.6: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=155f1ec9aea8bbf8c097651b576a018cbad543bf, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, with debug_info, not stripped

ARCH ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=6ebd6e95dffa2afcbdaf7b7c91103b23ecf2b012, stripped
VOID ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), static-pie linked, BuildID[sha1]=ae38d2f30121831555e199be378007e7f05bcd78, with debug_info, not stripped
```
 

## section differences

(command from @oreo639 [above](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1884242338))

```diff
--- ARCH
+++ VOID

@@ LIBC @@

-.gnu.version_r
-.plt.sec
+.plt.got
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab

@@ LD-LINUX @@

-.relr.dyn
-.stapsdt.base
-.note.stapsdt
-.gnu_debuglink
+.debug_aranges
+.debug_info
+.debug_abbrev
+.debug_line
+.debug_str
+.debug_line_str
+.debug_loclists
+.debug_rnglists
+.symtab
+.strtab
```

## "red objects"

since i have no idea which of those are flags and which are herrings, here are some things i'm noticing so far:

* we're missing `.gnu.version_r`,  which "**shall** contain **required** symbol version definitions" according to [LSB](https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/symversion.html)
* there's conflicting reports (in different games, so might not actually conflict) whether our version worked before [2.36](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/commit/e1e8467efb0bb185ba523885d8d7aacb17753c49)

and: **look down**, smarter people than me are contributing to this list, but i try to keep this updated as we figure things out here :)

---

## entropy graphs:

### arch:

![libc_map](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/601018/28fc7adb-6407-4d8a-b4d9-0663d423e9d0)

### void:

![libc_map](https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/assets/601018/ce16f8eb-c39d-4046-964f-c479c0eeea78)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925361791

Comment:
Well, i decided to try comparing the same game on flatpak steam vs native steam package.
When using native package steam still the same anti cheat validation failed in Insurgency Sandstorm
```
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: EndSessionClient : Result : (EOS_InvalidParameters)
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: BeginSessionClient : Result : (EOS_InvalidParameters)
```
However when using flatpak steam, it works fine??? It also dumps these logs
```
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: EndSessionClient : Result : (EOS_NotConfigured)
LogEOSAntiCheat: Display: BeginSessionClient : Result : (EOS_Success)
```
So im starting to have a feeling that this might be somehow tied into the native steam package as well...

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925363026

Comment:
> Well, i decided to try comparing the same game on flatpak steam vs native steam package.
> When using native package steam still the 
> So im starting to have a feeling that this might be somehow tied into the native steam package as well...

theres very little to no chance its that
flatpak use its own system lib (i dont wanna say bs as i dont know how it exactly work, but its kinda like if you do a chroot with others libs, like if you're on musl and do a glibc chroot of void, steam will work inside the glibc chroot.
and btw steam also work on musl void with flatpak)
so as it useit own glibc, if its indeed the  glibc void build the culprit (which we are like asfar i understood the thread, pretty sure), well its fiked cuz it use it own mot bugged 

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925393948

Comment:
Well, how about we take a look at how flatpak builds their system lib and how it differs from ours

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925393948

Comment:
Well, how about we take a look at how flatpak builds their system lib and how it differs from ours?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by Naia-love on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925394313

Comment:
> Well, how about we take a look at how flatpak builds their system lib and how it differs from ours?

we are already doing so with arch

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by classabbyamp on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925394440

Comment:
flatpak does not use the system glibc. it is a container fully independent of the system

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925445541

Comment:
> flatpak does not use the system glibc. it is a container fully independent of the system

Well yeah, but its not like its built from some magical source, the steam package manifest can be found [here](https://github.com/flathub/com.valvesoftware.Steam/tree/beta)
And last time i checked freedesktop's stuff is also open source.

I started to look through it, and a few things i already noticed is that void's native package for steam is missing some deps compared to the stuff that flatpak is installing.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925498897

Comment:
Also worth taking a look at what this repo that has a patch Arch's glibc to work with EAC
repo with the patch: https://github.com/Frogging-Family/glibc-eac/blob/main/disable_tests.patch
Arch's glibc recipe: https://github.com/archlinux/aur/blob/glibc-x86_64/PKGBUILD

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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New comment by okawo80085 on void-packages repository

https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925512681

Comment:
Also as per this relatively ancient gentoo thread, building glibc with `libc_cv_hashstyle=no` made their EAC work again, but idk how relevant it is now
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1147585.html?sid=ff98ea1836909e193ed668f5fd0430b5

I got glibc to build, but its inconsistant af, and if i try to link against the built libs instead of void-package ones steam refuses to start saying glibc has the wrong elfclass x)
So need to figure that one out before i can really do any proper testing :/

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now, and literally the 2nd post on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts with *less* research than above won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now, and literally the 2nd post on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925687834

Comment:
@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts with *less* research than above won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now, and literally the 2nd post on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

and why would we look at a 3rd party "patch to make arch libc work" if arch libc worked all the time and is the thing we've been comparing to so far as the known good one? especially since that patch is completely unrelated and just to make that repo's build thingy happy by turning off some optional tests?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925687834

Comment:
@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts with *less* research than above won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now, and literally the 2nd post on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

and why would we look at a 3rd party "patch to make arch libc work" if arch libc works plenty without it and is the thing we've been comparing to so far as the known good one? especially since that patch is completely unrelated and just to make that repo's build thingy happy by turning off some optional tests?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925687834

Comment:
@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts with *less* research than above won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now, and literally the 2nd post  (that isn't just "logistics") on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

and why would we look at a 3rd party "patch to make arch libc work" if arch libc works plenty without it and is the thing we've been comparing to so far as the known good one? especially since that patch is completely unrelated and just to make that repo's build thingy happy by turning off some optional tests?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1925687834

Comment:
@okawo80085 i'm rather positive that digging up already ruled out or clearly established things in a bunch of individual unedited spammy posts with *less* research than above won't bring us further, please scroll next time. DT_HASH has been beaten to death and back now (to the point of me already having made up a joke hashtag above), and literally the 2nd post  (that isn't just "logistics") on this topic is about how flatpak works by not using our libc!

and why would we look at a 3rd party "patch to make arch libc work" if arch libc works plenty without it and is the thing we've been comparing to so far as the known good one? especially since that patch is completely unrelated and just to make that repo's build thingy happy by turning off some optional tests?

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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i not sure if anyone has found a way (apart from Flatpaks) to launch eac successfully so i'm just posting this here in case it could lead to the root cause.

I found a way to launch vrchat successfully by forcing steam to run the game outside of it's "Steam Linux Runtime 3.0 (Sniper)" wrapper using vrchats launch options in steam. 

When you launch the game normally and watch steam clients output for the launch command it will be some form of `<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <linux runtime path>/_v2-entry-point -- <proton path>/proton <vrchat path>/launch.exe`

This way vrchat fails to connect with eac and quits. When you copy the command and **remove** the Steam Runtime wrapper however (removing the `_v2-entry-point` while leaving the `reaper` and `steam-launch-wrapper`) and put the full command steam launch options (eg. `<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <proton path>/proton <vrc path>/launch.exe # %command%`) the game and eac launches successfully.

This is a scuffed setup but it must likely rules out glibc from being the problem. It seams there's an issue when running an eac game inside the steam runtime as vrc couldn't even detect eac while its service was running in the background (logging `[AntiCheatClient] Anti-cheat client not available. Verify that the game was started using the anti-cheat bootstrapper if you intend to use it.`)

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Comment:
i not sure if anyone has found a way (apart from Flatpaks) to launch eac successfully so i'm just posting this here in case it could lead to the root cause.

I found a way to launch vrchat successfully by forcing steam to run the game outside of it's "Steam Linux Runtime 3.0 (Sniper)" wrapper using vrchats launch options in steam. 

When you launch the game normally and watch steam clients output for the launch command it will be some form of `<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <linux runtime path>/_v2-entry-point -- <proton path>/proton <vrchat path>/launch.exe`

This way vrchat fails to connect with eac and quits. When you copy the command and **remove** the Steam Runtime wrapper however (removing the `_v2-entry-point` while leaving the `reaper` and `steam-launch-wrapper`) and put the full command steam launch options (eg. `<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <proton path>/proton <vrc path>/launch.exe # %command%`) the game and eac launches successfully.

This is a scuffed setup to say the least but it most likely rules out glibc from being the problem. It seams there's an issue when running an eac game inside the steam runtime as vrc couldn't even detect eac while its service was running in the background (logging `[AntiCheatClient] Anti-cheat client not available. Verify that the game was started using the anti-cheat bootstrapper if you intend to use it.`)

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This method works for Elden Ring and Armored Core 6, thanks.

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/issues/41388#issuecomment-1947357310

Comment:
i not sure if anyone has found a way (apart from Flatpaks) to launch eac successfully so i'm just posting this here in case it could lead to the root cause.

I found a way to launch vrchat successfully by forcing steam to run the game outside of it's "Steam Linux Runtime 3.0 (Sniper)" wrapper using vrchats launch options in steam. 

When you launch the game normally and watch steam clients output for the launch command it will be some form of this
 ```
<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <linux runtime path>/_v2-entry-point -- <proton path>/proton <vrchat path>/launch.exe
```

This way vrchat fails to connect with eac and quits. But when you copy the command and **remove** the Steam Runtime wrapper (removing the `_v2-entry-point` while leaving the `reaper` and `steam-launch-wrapper`) and put the full command into the steam launch options like this
```
<steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <proton path>/proton <vrc path>/launch.exe # %command%
```
the game and eac launch successfully.

This is a scuffed setup to say the least but it most likely rules out glibc from being the problem. It seams there's an issue when running an eac game inside the steam runtime as vrc couldn't even detect eac always logging 
```
[AntiCheatClient] Anti-cheat client not available. Verify that the game was started using the anti-cheat bootstrapper if you intend to use it.
```
even tho the eac service did launch without errors.

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Comment:
since it's narrowed to the runtime, I thought it might be worth bringing up this page. If special cases are needed they offer the ability to contact them. This was done with exherbo, which is another independent distro. https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/steamrt/steam-runtime-tools/-/blob/main/docs/distro-assumptions.md

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Comment:
since it's narrowed to the runtime, I thought it might be worth bringing up this page. If special cases are needed they offer the ability to contact them. This was done with exherbo, which is another independent distro. It lists all the common dependencies and such. https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/steamrt/steam-runtime-tools/-/blob/main/docs/distro-assumptions.md

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Comment:
So apparently the steam linux runtime calls all of it's scripts with #!/bin/sh.
I'm seriously suspecting some bashisms being the culprit here. I am not available right now for investigation so if someone could look into that as a possibility?

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you can run shellcheck on the scripts, maybe. some of the lints it raises are about bashisms in posix sh

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> ```
> <steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <linux runtime path>/_v2-entry-point -- <proton path>/proton <vrchat path>/launch.exe
> ```

> ```
> <steam path>/reaper -- <steam path>/steam-launch-wrapper -- <proton path>/proton <vrc path>/launch.exe # %command%
> ```

Ran into this EAC issue this evening with Sea of Thieves and this workaround makes it playable again. Cheers for sharing it.

I'll try to contribute some time to this issue if its helpful, but I'm late to this party and getting caught up in this thread.

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Bashisms aren't the issue, symlinkg /bin/sh to bash doesn't fix EAC in my glibc chroot

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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Comment:
@trizey pretty sure that's something else, since Sea of Thieves never had *this* issue.

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> @trizey pretty sure that's something else, since Sea of Thieves never had _this_ issue.

@nonchip Sea of Thieves enabled EAC recently in March. The error I was getting trying to login to the server was "EAC failed to initialize" to which the workaround mentioned in this thread fixes it. Seems pretty related to me.

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~~@trizey pretty sure that's something else, since Sea of Thieves never had *this* issue.~~

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@trizey oh sorry yeah i haven't actually played in a few months, i wasn't aware that was new, thought they'd been using it for a while. yeah then it's related.

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ive seen this issue happen every time as of that update on 2 different void linux computers (gentoo still works but im sticking with void)

Re: Steam: Easy Anti-Cheat does not work under Void

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Comment:
Tested again today on Void 6.6.29_1 x86_64 AuthenticAMD notuptodate rrrrmmnFFFFFFF, EAC still fails with native steam, tested with VRChat and Insurgency, same errors as before `EAC failed to initialize`, all while the same games work fine on flatpak version on steam :/
If its not `glibc`, maybe its missing some shared lib dep or there is some dep version miss match?