From: zeurkous@blaatscaahp.org
To: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org, Wesley <opndev@protonmail.com>
Subject: RE: Re: The request of words matter updated
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 00:00:20 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <thinkcrap!zeurkous!1664928017.4875> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221004072806.GD27622@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2>
On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 07:28:06 +0000, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> In terms of jcb's thesis, the two positions on master/slave terminology
> seem to be "tactlessness is a strict liability faux pas; if Bob opines
> Alice spoke tactlessly, she should speak differently" and "Alice wasn't
> being intentionally racist/speciesist/*, and Bob should follow Postel's
> Law".
>
> If I wrote the last paragraph well, I mispresented /both/ positions
> equally badly :P
[disclaimer: didn't read "jcb's thesis"]
The real problem with an "it causes offense, so it must be wrong"
attitude is conflicting norms, an inherent property of the very
"cultural diversity" that companies like IBM claim to persue.
In simpler terms: it's very easy to say something that constitutes an
insult in $CULTURE[0], while constituting lavish praise in $CULTURE[1].
(The words "not bad" spring to mind.)
We can never get it right; or, rather: we can never please everybody, no
matter what terminology we use, *someone* will be offended.
That's why it's important that keep technical terminology technical.
Unless we're willing to outright make up words that no-one will be able
to intuitively learn or understand. That would be quite a regression,
wouldn't it?
--zeurkous.
--
Friggin' Machines!
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-19 6:52 Xiao Ling XL Chen
2022-09-19 18:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-27 3:15 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-09-27 4:22 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-27 8:44 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-09-27 20:54 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-09-27 21:15 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-27 21:22 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-28 12:42 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:33 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-27 21:32 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-09-28 6:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-09-28 6:30 ` Ellenor Bjornsdottir
2022-09-28 12:57 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:23 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-09-28 12:47 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:35 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-28 6:14 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-09-28 12:16 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-28 13:05 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:49 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-29 4:08 ` On the "Words Matter" issue (was Re: The request of words matter updated; quotes deleted) Ellenor Bjornsdottir
2022-09-29 10:48 ` De Zeurkous
2022-09-29 12:11 ` FU: " zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-30 4:29 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-30 5:14 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 8:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-10-08 10:12 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 10:12 ` zeurkous
[not found] ` <63414db7.050a0220.8ee33.4cc4SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2022-10-08 10:48 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 11:06 ` zeurkous
[not found] ` <63415a7a.500a0220.e6d5.1c01SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2022-10-08 11:20 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 11:59 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 16:48 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 16:54 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 17:55 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-08 18:09 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-08 18:24 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-10-08 18:43 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 18:25 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 18:11 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 19:58 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 20:17 ` zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:52 ` Re: The request of words matter updated zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:08 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 16:34 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-09-28 16:42 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-10-03 14:25 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-03 14:43 ` zeurkous
2022-10-03 23:24 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-04 0:45 ` Wesley
2022-10-04 5:29 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 5:48 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 23:31 ` zeurkous
2022-10-04 11:14 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-08 18:14 ` Martijn Dekker
2022-10-08 18:34 ` zeurkous
2022-10-03 15:27 ` Wesley
2022-10-03 15:45 ` zeurkous
2022-10-04 7:05 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 7:28 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-05 0:00 ` zeurkous [this message]
2022-10-04 23:46 ` zeurkous
2022-10-05 0:28 ` FU: " zeurkous
2022-10-08 7:54 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-10-08 10:06 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 10:46 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 10:59 ` zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:31 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-28 20:01 ` Eric Cook
2022-09-29 8:05 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-10-01 4:40 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-10-03 15:24 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-05 3:02 Wesley
2022-10-05 3:18 ` zeurkous
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