From: zeurkous@blaatscaahp.org, zeurkous@volny.cz
To: Ellenor Bjornsdottir <ellenor@umbrellix.net>, zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: RE: Re: The request of words matter updated
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 12:57:41 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <thinkcrap!zeurkous!1664369860.13944> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA4D47DB-BC5F-4FBE-8729-B951D947578A@umbrellix.net>
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 06:30:56 +0000, Ellenor Bjornsdottir <ellenor@umbrellix.net> wrote:
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> Will this change actually harm anything - foreign libraries, etc?
Yes. It will create inconsistency and confusion.
> If not, then because it clearly benefits some people, the cost-benefit cal=
> culus favors change=2E
>
> I don't like it, but my opinion doesn't matter because the change harms no=
> thing=2E
Even if you see no harm: that attitude tends to lead to MIME garbage,
the careless dropping of 'Cc:'s, and top-posting.
Luckily, your response doesn't suffer from any of that, does it?
Pfew.
--zeurkous.
>
> On 28 September 2022 06:17:59 UTC, Felipe Contreras <felipe=2Econtreras@gm=
> ail=2Ecom> wrote:
>>On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:39 PM Mikael Magnusson <mikachu@gmail=2Ecom> wr=
> ote:
>>>
>>> On 9/27/22, Daniel Shahaf <d=2Es@daniel=2Eshahaf=2Ename> wrote:
>>> > -1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the
>>> > change feel comfortable saying so publicly=2E
>>>
>>> If a word is so bad that people don't want to say that they want to
>>> keep it, then we should not keep it=2E
>>
>>There's nothing "bad" about the word a priori=2E If *you* believe it has
>>to be changed, then *you* have the burden of proof=2E
>>
>>Just like any other change=2E
>>
>>--=20
>>Felipe Contreras
>>
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> Ellenor Bjornsdottir (she)
> sysadmin umbrellix=2Enet
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> <html><head></head><body>Will this change actually harm anything - foreign =
> libraries, etc?<br><br>If not, then because it clearly benefits some people=
> , the cost-benefit calculus favors change=2E<br><br>I don't like it, but my=
> opinion doesn't matter because the change harms nothing=2E<br><br><div cla=
> ss=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 September 2022 06:17:59 UTC, Felipe Contreras <=
> felipe=2Econtreras@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
> style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
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> <pre dir=3D"auto" class=3D"k9mail">On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:39 PM Mikael =
> Magnusson <mikachu@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
> quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf=
> ; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> On 9/27/22, Daniel Shahaf <d=2Es@daniel=2Esha=
> haf=2Ename> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
> 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">-=
> 1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the<br>chan=
> ge feel comfortable saying so publicly=2E<br></blockquote><br> If a word is=
> so bad that people don't want to say that they want to<br> keep it, then w=
> e should not keep it=2E<br></blockquote><br>There's nothing "bad" about the=
> word a priori=2E If *you* believe it has<br>to be changed, then *you* have=
> the burden of proof=2E<br><br>Just like any other change=2E<br><br><div cl=
> ass=3D"k9mail-signature">-- <br>Felipe Contreras<br><br></div></pre></block=
> quote></div><div style=3D'white-space: pre-wrap'><div class=3D'k9mail-signa=
> ture'>-- <br>Ellenor Bjornsdottir (she)<br>sysadmin umbrellix=2Enet</div></=
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-28 15:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-19 6:52 Xiao Ling XL Chen
2022-09-19 18:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-27 3:15 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-09-27 4:22 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-27 8:44 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-09-27 20:54 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-09-27 21:15 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-27 21:22 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-28 12:42 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:33 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-27 21:32 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-09-28 6:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-09-28 6:30 ` Ellenor Bjornsdottir
2022-09-28 12:57 ` zeurkous, zeurkous [this message]
2022-09-29 8:23 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-09-28 12:47 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:35 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-28 6:14 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-09-28 12:16 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-09-28 13:05 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:49 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-29 4:08 ` On the "Words Matter" issue (was Re: The request of words matter updated; quotes deleted) Ellenor Bjornsdottir
2022-09-29 10:48 ` De Zeurkous
2022-09-29 12:11 ` FU: " zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-30 4:29 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-09-30 5:14 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 8:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-10-08 10:12 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 10:12 ` zeurkous
[not found] ` <63414db7.050a0220.8ee33.4cc4SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2022-10-08 10:48 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 11:06 ` zeurkous
[not found] ` <63415a7a.500a0220.e6d5.1c01SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2022-10-08 11:20 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 11:59 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 16:48 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 16:54 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 17:55 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-08 18:09 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-08 18:24 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-10-08 18:43 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 18:25 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 18:11 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 19:58 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-10-08 20:17 ` zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:52 ` Re: The request of words matter updated zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 12:08 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-09-28 16:34 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-09-28 16:42 ` zeurkous, zeurkous
2022-10-03 14:25 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-03 14:43 ` zeurkous
2022-10-03 23:24 ` Eric Cook
2022-10-04 0:45 ` Wesley
2022-10-04 5:29 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 5:48 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 23:31 ` zeurkous
2022-10-04 11:14 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-08 18:14 ` Martijn Dekker
2022-10-08 18:34 ` zeurkous
2022-10-03 15:27 ` Wesley
2022-10-03 15:45 ` zeurkous
2022-10-04 7:05 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-04 7:28 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-10-05 0:00 ` zeurkous
2022-10-04 23:46 ` zeurkous
2022-10-05 0:28 ` FU: " zeurkous
2022-10-08 7:54 ` Felipe Contreras
2022-10-08 10:06 ` zeurkous
2022-10-08 10:46 ` Mikael Magnusson
2022-10-08 10:59 ` zeurkous
2022-09-29 8:31 ` Axel Beckert
2022-09-28 20:01 ` Eric Cook
2022-09-29 8:05 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-10-01 4:40 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-10-03 15:24 ` Peter Stephenson
2022-10-05 3:02 Wesley
2022-10-05 3:18 ` zeurkous
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