Re: The request of words matter updated

[Clinton Bunch <cdbunch@zentaur.org>]

On 9/27/2022 4:15 PM, Clinton Bunch wrote:
> On 9/27/2022 3:54 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> -1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the
>> change feel comfortable saying so publicly.
>>
>> I will also point out that tracking the terms used by the formal 
>> parameters
>> in the callee's header files or documentation, as proposed upthread — is
>> a clear, objective criterion; makes the terminology decisions Someone
>> Else's Problem; makes the code easier to read; and involves less churn.
>> Without advocating for that particular solution or considering what
>> downsides it may have, I do wish to say those properties thereof seem
>> desirable.
>>
> We've been trying to rid ourselves of these words for twenty years in 
> the IT industry.  They were used because they accurately describe the 
> relationship and at the dawn of Unix and the Internet, the emotional 
> charge the words carry wasn't recognized.
>
>
> For PTYs  I like the terms controller and subsidiary.  It seems to 
> describe the relationship better than other suggestions.  The use of 
> superior and inferior as otherwhere suggested strike me as eventually 
> running into the same problem of being emotionally charged.
>
I will also point out that making it "Somebody Else's Problem" Is a big 
part of why we haven't successfully rid ourselves of these terms in over 
two decades of realizing they were problematic. Let's not perpetuate the 
problem.