Re: [9fans] mouse

Re: [9fans] mouse

[David Presotto]

I mistranslated jmk's.  'teenei whakarongo mai' means
`listen to this', not 'look at this'.

Re: [9fans] mouse

[splite]

On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:52:25AM -0500, zfolkerts@starcenter.tn.org wrote:
>
> Basically you put a silver dot sticker on your forhead, and as you move
> your head, appropriate mouse movements are made.

So, instead of getting "gorilla arm", one can look forward to "gorilla neck"
and a nice side career as a linebacker or bouncer?

Re: [9fans] mouse

[zfolkerts]

Has anyone else seen one of these devices?
http://orin.com/access/headmouse/index.htm

Basically you put a silver dot sticker on your forhead, and as you move
your head, appropriate mouse movements are made. I saw this on a Windows
box several years ago, but according to their site, it emulates standard
mouse protocols, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on a Plan 9 box.

Zack Folkerts

Re: [9fans] mouse

[boyd, rounin]

> Basically you put a silver dot sticker on your forhead, and as you move
> your head, appropriate mouse movements are made.

nope, no silver Bindis.  i want lasers and  acurracy and it would really mess
up those 'mouse in window' focus policies.

[9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

this is OT, but i'm gonna ask anyway.

i wanna know the meaning, or how to find it of a 3 character japanese
'word' that has one complex kanji and ends in 'mi' 'shi' [kana].  it'd be
a nice use of rev | grep with the right dictionary.

Re: [9fans] kanji

[okamoto]

> this is OT, but i'm gonna ask anyway.
> 
> i wanna know the meaning, or how to find it of a 3 character japanese
> 'word' that has one complex kanji and ends in 'mi' 'shi' [kana].  it'd be
> a nice use of rev | grep with the right dictionary.

You might have to refer to Kanwa dictionary which translate a Kanji
character to Nihongo.   Well, Kanji was imported from old china, and
Chinese and Japanese are quit different language each other.   So,
we need such dictionary in some case.

Is your requested Kanji isn't like this:  蝦, which I just guessed from
your favorite I detected. ☺

Kenji

Re: [9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

> Well, Kanji was imported from old china,

yup 13th century.

> Chinese and Japanese are quit different language each other.

yes.

> So, we need such dictionary in some case.

well i have a kenkyusha's somewhere, but that wont help me.

> Is your requested Kanji isn't like this:  蝦, which I just guessed from

no it's not like that.  it's more like chuo/tou[kyo] but more complex.

hell, it's tattooed on a gaijin's back.  it may mean _nothing_.

gaijin dakara, wakaranai

it's just a puzzle i'd like to figure out. well, that and this DNA resercher's
question about enzemes -- her time will come:  AGCT

Re: [9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

yeah, i need a 'stroke count' dictionary/index.

Re: [9fans] kanji

[okamoto]

>> Is your requested Kanji isn't like this:  蝦, which I just guessed from
> 
> no it's not like that.  it's more like chuo/tou[kyo] but more complex.
> 
> hell, it's tattooed on a gaijin's back.  it may mean _nothing_.

Isn't it 夷 ?   It means gaijin...

Kenji

Re: [9fans] kanji

[okamoto]

>>> Is your requested Kanji isn't like this:  蝦, which I just guessed from
>> 
>> no it's not like that.  it's more like chuo/tou[kyo] but more complex.
>> 
>> hell, it's tattooed on a gaijin's back.  it may mean _nothing_.
> 
> Isn't it 夷 ?   It means gaijin...

I forgot one thing.
I think it was written like 夷みし, which means gaijin with lesser quality.
I recommend you not to ware it on your back.  ☺

Kenji

Re: [9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

> I think it was written like 夷みし, which means gaijin with lesser quality.

yup, that looks like it.  i've never seen it written that way.  what are the
furigana (?) for the first character.

> I recommend you not to ware it on your back.  ☺

well, it is kinda obvious that i _am_ a gaijin, so it's kinda unnecessary.

arigatou gozaimasu.

Re: [9fans] kanji

[Moroo Jun]

Maybe this page helps you.

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/jwb/wwwjdic?1B

On 2003.08.07, at 19:43, boyd, rounin wrote:
> yup, that looks like it.  i've never seen it written that way.  what
> are the
> furigana (?) for the first character.

Re: [9fans] mouse

[matt]

>
>
>So, instead of getting "gorilla arm", one can look forward to "gorilla neck"
>and a nice side career as a linebacker or bouncer?
>

yeah, these gorilla eyes are really starting to look grotesque

Re: [9fans] kanji

[okamoto]

Yeah!  I was very close from the first time.

>> I think it was written like 夷みし, which means gaijin with lesser quality.
> 
> yup, that looks like it.  i've never seen it written that way.  what are the
> furigana (?) for the first character.

えみし(e-mi-shi)
The first kanji I wrote here was also the えみし、 蝦夷, which is the
formal Kanji for えみし.  蝦夷 is a very old word to indicate the people
lived in the northern Japan, canned アイヌ(Iinu) now.  It was a word
to look down them from the ruling people at Kansai area.   These habits
of Kanji usage came from China, who called Japanese at that time as
東夷(とうい, barbarian living east) .

Therefore, I suppose someone doesn't want to use the very word 
蝦夷, and used 夷みし to express somthing "I'm not Japanese", or 
"I have rich hair all around my body" ☺  Anyway, 夷みしstill means
barbarian!

> well, it is kinda obvious that i _am_ a gaijin, so it's kinda unnecessary.

yeah!
However, you look like sophisticated barbarian if I judge only from your
writing here, so. it may fit to you.  ☺

Kenji -- sorry, boyd, I'm kidding

Re: [9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

> えみし(e-mi-shi)

oh cool.  this should provide some fun :)

> Kansai area.

iirc kansai includes ousaka [great slope] and koube.  spent some time in
koube, NEC no kaisha-in deshita.

> Therefore, I suppose someone doesn't want to use the very word
> 蝦夷, and used 夷みし to express somthing "I'm not Japanese", or
> "I have rich hair all around my body" ☺  Anyway, 夷みしstill means
> barbarian!

yes it makes no sense, like a lot of the 'english' on t-shirts etc in japan
(and many other countries).

> However, you look like sophisticated barbarian if I judge only from your
> writing here, so. it may fit to you.  ☺

it does perfectly and all the connotations mean 'disgrace'? well until the 47
rounin (who were honourable men) did what needed to be done.

the bushido code, right?  i've read/studied some Mishima -- now that is
interesting 'cos it has mi-shi :)

it was the movie that reminded me that i'd seen the site in shinagawa [goods
river] in '89 or so.

> Kenji -- sorry, boyd, I'm kidding

s'ok, in oz we call it 'stirring' and it's sort of a national sport :)

Re: [9fans] kanji

[boyd, rounin]

nope, i was wrong.  here are the BUAG:

    /
 \ --- /
   |  |
   |--|
 / |  | \
   ---
 ------
   /|\

the middle character (iirc) is shiro [white].

Re: [9fans] mouse

[Steve Zimmerman]

YAMANASHI Takeshi wrote:

>>writing elvish in plan9:

> Three syncs for the fixed disks under the SCSI,
>   Seven for the inetds of their ports of echo,
> Nine for Mortal Processes doomed to die,
>   One for the Dark Init on his endless wait
> In the Land of Lunix where the PCs lie.
>

Very nice!

	--Steve

Re: [9fans] mouse

[boyd, rounin]

> An Indian giver is one who says he will give you something and then
> takes it back.

no, got that. i watched F-Troop.

> I was also using it as a play on words seeing as it was from the Apache.

ahh ...

Re: [9fans] mouse

[matt]

boyd, rounin wrote:

>>Indian giver
>>
>>
>
>what is wrong with you?
>

Maybe you misunderstood (although there a quite a few things wrong with me)

An Indian giver is one who says he will give you something and then
takes it back.

I thougt the prospect of one of those was genuine before the "client
license" part.

I was also using it as a play on words seeing as it was from the Apache.

8)

Re: [9fans] mouse

[boyd, rounin]

> Indian giver

what is wrong with you?  given the us military already has this
technology why should it be re-invented?

oh, i know why, it would justify lunix.

i have CAT-I night vision and it's damn impressive.  you go
for CAT-II or CAT-III and 'a world of pain' is just the beginning.

Re: [9fans] mouse

[matt]

boyd, rounin wrote:

>the phrase 'end user certificate' springs to mind :(
>

Indian giver

Re: [9fans] mouse

[matt]

>
>
>an attractive person of appropriate gender walks past
>and your cursor jams against the side of the screen.
>(Especially tedious if a mouse button is down at the time).
>

I think that at that very moment I would be too distracted by the wave
of energy from all the atoms on one side of the universe upping and
moving to the other.

Re: [9fans] mouse

[YAMANASHI Takeshi]

> writing elvish in plan9:

Wonderful.  I love both Tolkien and Plan 9 very much.
I would like to write the following infamous verse in
the elvish font.

Three syncs for the fixed disks under the SCSI,
  Seven for the inetds of their ports of echo,
Nine for Mortal Processes doomed to die,
  One for the Dark Init on his endless wait
In the Land of Lunix where the PCs lie.
--

Re: [9fans] mouse

[okamoto]

>> 	>Dave (watching a buzzard fly past his window).
>> 
>> E koe, e manu, i runga i te rangi, teenei whakarongo mai!
> 
> Me koe na anoo toona aahua

Hmmm, it may not be Hawaiian.  ☺

Kenji

Re: [9fans] mouse

[Sape Mullender]

> 	>Dave (watching a buzzard fly past his window).
>
> E koe, e manu, i runga i te rangi, teenei whakarongo mai!

Me koe na anoo toona aahua

Re: [9fans] mouse

[David Presotto]

Oh you, bird, at the top of the sky, look at this!

Re: [9fans] mouse

[Dave Lukes]

On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:00:46PM -0400, jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> 	>Dave (watching a buzzard fly past his window).
>
> E koe, e manu, i runga i te rangi, teenei whakarongo mai!

Any chance of a translation?
It doesn't look like Welsh to me!

Cheers,
	Dave.

Re: [9fans] mouse

[jmk]

	>Dave (watching a buzzard fly past his window).

E koe, e manu, i runga i te rangi, teenei whakarongo mai!

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[boyd, rounin]

> Count me out:
> an attractive person of appropriate gender walks past
> and your cursor jams against the side of the screen.

ahh, but the AH-64 pilots are trained to have binocular vision, so
your left eye is free to look at whatever it likes :)

Re: [9fans] mouse

[Dave Lukes]

> >i want one of those AH-64 Apache pilot monoculars
> >so i can 'point' the mouse with my right eye, with a
> >ps2 interface.
> >
> >any takers?
> >
> >
> count me in

Count me out:
an attractive person of appropriate gender walks past
and your cursor jams against the side of the screen.
(Especially tedious if a mouse button is down at the time).

These kind of things (interfaces based directly on sensory organs)
are only appropriate in specific contexts;
in the real world, you want artifical interfaces,
so that you can still interface with the real world.
(Well, maybe not all of us).

That's one reason why speech recognition is not very successful:
you have to disable it when the 'phone rings.

	Dave (watching a buzzard fly past his window).

Re: [9fans] mouse

[boyd, rounin]

the phrase 'end user certificate' springs to mind :(

Re: [9fans] mouse

[matt]

boyd, rounin wrote:

>i want one of those AH-64 Apache pilot monoculars
>so i can 'point' the mouse with my right eye, with a
>ps2 interface.
>
>any takers?
>
>
count me in

[9fans] mouse

[boyd, rounin]

i want one of those AH-64 Apache pilot monoculars
so i can 'point' the mouse with my right eye, with a
ps2 interface.

any takers?

[9fans] mouse

[forsyth]

echo accelerated >/dev/mousectl

there are a few other options.

[9fans] mouse

[Russ]

	The mouse is slow under 1024x768.
	How can I make it be faster?

echo -n accelerated >/dev/mousectl
echo -n res 3 >/dev/mousectl

Russ

[9fans] mouse

[Vladimir]

Hi

The mouse is slow under 1024x768.
How can I make it be faster?

Thank's

Vladimir

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