From: "Wes Kussmaul" <wes@village.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:22:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c9c01c383a2$b02e70c0$6400a8c0@dell01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01a201c3839f$91797240$b9844051@insultant.net>
> > Boyd had the right idea (not the current one (though that one's good
too))
> > but... let's see if I can find it... quoted it in my book...
> >
> > The final solution is to either beef up IP (bad idea) or replace
> > it with a mutually authenticaticated, encrypted protocol.
>
> that's it. thanks.
It really is the right place to start.
Now the trick(s) is (are)
1. Who can you rely on to authenticate identities and enroll people with
meaningful credentials, i.e. key pairs
2. How do you protect individual privacy once people start using these
universal identifiers
3. (ducking) access to key escrow for law enforcement
4. Reality check: who's going to pay for it
Please please please do not start a flame war over #3. We are all way too
busy for that.
Wes Kussmaul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-25 20:22 UTC|newest]
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2003-09-25 11:32 Aharon Robbins
2003-09-25 12:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 13:42 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 14:48 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 15:07 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-25 15:34 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 16:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-25 17:20 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:28 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 17:37 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:12 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:19 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 18:25 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:29 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:39 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:43 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:51 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 19:06 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:35 ` mirtchov
2003-09-26 10:16 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-25 19:48 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 10:17 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-26 11:44 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:40 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 17:47 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 2:03 ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-09-25 16:06 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:45 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:05 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:05 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 18:16 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 21:39 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:47 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:56 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:08 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:31 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 10:13 ` David Lukes
2003-09-25 19:59 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:22 ` Wes Kussmaul [this message]
2003-09-25 20:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:16 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:45 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:46 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 21:25 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:36 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:50 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-25 21:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:10 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-25 22:34 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:19 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:37 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 23:10 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 23:21 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-26 0:01 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 0:11 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 0:45 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 22:32 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 22:27 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 22:53 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 4:33 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 10:45 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:07 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:09 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:21 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:39 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:58 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:23 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 13:33 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:46 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 14:01 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 14:36 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:03 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:22 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-26 19:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:23 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:00 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 9:22 ` boyd
2003-10-06 11:19 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 18:09 ` boyd
2003-09-26 13:55 ` rog
2003-09-26 14:25 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 19:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:06 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:50 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 20:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:18 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 21:13 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 6:01 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:00 ` [9fans] PEM boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 9:43 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 8:02 ` [9fans] ISP filtering - update boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 10:15 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 10:56 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-26 12:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:49 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:01 ` rog
2003-09-28 15:53 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-26 13:02 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 15:08 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-29 9:11 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-29 9:33 ` boyd
2003-09-25 17:19 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:32 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:30 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:48 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:56 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:03 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 18:10 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:08 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:31 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 19:46 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 14:51 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 19:32 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:43 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 19:05 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 17:32 ` Michael Jeffrey
2003-09-25 17:57 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:23 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:46 ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 15:17 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-25 23:30 Sven Lundquist
2003-09-26 13:09 David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:44 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:23 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 17:31 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 18:29 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 18:51 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:33 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 12:55 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 17:59 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-09-26 14:49 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-26 19:49 ` boyd, rounin
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