From: "D. Brownlee" <brownlee@acm.org>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:40:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F732878.7040609@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c372adca72d22242d17c7a6f7513bbd7@plan9.bell-labs.com>
It looks as though the congress is acting to pass
a law that would effect much of what the administrative
law would do, with respect to the do-not-call list.
For the spam problem, we need a "killer-app,"
mailizard, which, like a lizard, just hangs-out
waiting for insects to come by.
David Presotto wrote:
> As far as I can tell, using laws to stop spammers is not
> very effective. Spam is essentially a nuisance. There
> are indeed many local nuisance laws. However, an attempt
> to injunct someone in another state from bothering you
> is pretty hard.
>
> Local laws against bulk faxing got passed partially with the
> support of businesses that claimed the fax spam was wasting
> their paper and losing them business when their fax machines
> didn't have paper to take orders. Similar argument may work
> with spam but only once the problem gets much worse than
> it is. Read HR 2515 for a fairly reasoned description of
> the problem, though the solution wouldn't really help much.
> They request that each sender (not transmitter) of spam
> have an opt-out mechanism and that they have valid reply
> info so that you can opt out. However, you get into the same
> problem as opting out of telemarketing calls. If you have
> to opt-out with each spammer, you could easily spend your
> whole life opting out.
>
> A opt-out registry would be nice, but look what's happening
> with the FTC's do-not-call registry.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-25 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-25 11:32 Aharon Robbins
2003-09-25 12:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 13:42 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 14:48 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 15:07 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-25 15:34 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 16:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-25 17:20 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:28 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 17:37 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:12 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:19 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 18:25 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:29 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:39 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:43 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:51 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 19:06 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:35 ` mirtchov
2003-09-26 10:16 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-25 19:48 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 10:17 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-26 11:44 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:40 ` D. Brownlee [this message]
2003-09-25 17:47 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 2:03 ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-09-25 16:06 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:45 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:05 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:05 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 18:16 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 21:39 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:47 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:56 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:08 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:31 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 10:13 ` David Lukes
2003-09-25 19:59 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:22 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:16 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:45 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:46 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 21:25 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:36 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:50 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-25 21:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:10 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-25 22:34 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:19 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:37 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 23:10 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 23:21 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-26 0:01 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 0:11 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 0:45 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 22:32 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 22:27 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 22:53 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 4:33 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 10:45 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:07 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:09 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:21 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:39 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:58 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:23 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 13:33 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:46 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 14:01 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 14:36 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:03 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:22 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-26 19:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:23 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:00 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 9:22 ` boyd
2003-10-06 11:19 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 18:09 ` boyd
2003-09-26 13:55 ` rog
2003-09-26 14:25 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 19:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:06 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:50 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 20:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:18 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 21:13 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 6:01 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:00 ` [9fans] PEM boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 9:43 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 8:02 ` [9fans] ISP filtering - update boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 10:15 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 10:56 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-26 12:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:49 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:01 ` rog
2003-09-28 15:53 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-26 13:02 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 15:08 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-29 9:11 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-29 9:33 ` boyd
2003-09-25 17:19 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:32 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:30 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:48 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:56 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:03 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 18:10 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:08 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:31 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 19:46 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 14:51 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 19:32 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:43 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 19:05 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 17:32 ` Michael Jeffrey
2003-09-25 17:57 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:23 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:46 ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 15:17 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-25 23:30 Sven Lundquist
2003-09-26 13:09 David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:44 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:23 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 17:31 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 18:29 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 18:51 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:33 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 12:55 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 17:59 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-09-26 14:49 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-26 19:49 ` boyd, rounin
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