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From: Derek Fawcus <dfawcus@cisco.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:11:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030926011100.B10729@edinburgh.cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F737603.8040709@acm.org>; from brownlee@acm.org on Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 04:10:59PM -0700

On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 04:10:59PM -0700, D. Brownlee wrote:
>
> > That's the point.  Latin has single word infinitives,  English doesn't.
>
> Latin actually has some two-worded infinitives; for example,
> "portaturus esse" -- "to be about to carry" (future infinitive),
> where the present infinitive is "portare." So, a Latin infinitive
> could be "split," if "to split" is to insert something between the
> first and second words.
>
> "portatus esse" may be the perfect passive infinitive -- I may
> be mistaken.

Well what d'ya know.   So I guess it must come (ref to anal latin teachers)
from there being some rule in latin grammer that such infinitives shouldn't
have another word inserted between them?  Whereas english has alowed this
form.

actually one quote I always liked (can't remember from whom) is that

   "grammer is the dead husk left as a language evolves"

DF


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-26  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-25 11:32 Aharon Robbins
2003-09-25 12:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 13:42 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 14:48   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 15:07     ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-25 15:34       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 16:41         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-25 17:20           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:28           ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 17:37             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:12               ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:19                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 18:25                 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:29                   ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:39                     ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:43                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:51                   ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 19:06                     ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:35                       ` mirtchov
2003-09-26 10:16                       ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-25 19:48                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 10:17                     ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-26 11:44                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:37                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:40             ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 17:47             ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26  2:03           ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-09-25 16:06     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:21       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:26         ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:45           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:05             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:05             ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 18:16               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 21:39             ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:47               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:56                 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:08                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:31                     ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 10:13                     ` David Lukes
2003-09-25 19:59       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:22         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:38           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:16       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:45         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:46         ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 21:25           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:36             ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:50               ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-25 21:58                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:10                 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-25 22:34                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:19                 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:37                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 23:10                   ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 23:21                     ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-26  0:01                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26  0:11                     ` Derek Fawcus [this message]
2003-09-26  0:45                       ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 22:32             ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 22:27           ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 22:53             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26  4:33           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 10:45             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:07             ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:09               ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:21                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:39                   ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:58                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:23                       ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 13:33                         ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:46                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 14:01                             ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 14:36                               ` rog
2003-09-26 15:03                                 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:22                                   ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-26 19:41                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:23                               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:00                                 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06  9:01                               ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06  9:22                                 ` boyd
2003-10-06 11:19                                   ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 18:09                                     ` boyd
2003-09-26 13:55                         ` rog
2003-09-26 14:25                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 19:38                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:06                               ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:50                           ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 20:31                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:18                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:44                           ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 21:13                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  6:01                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27  8:00                             ` [9fans] PEM boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  9:43                               ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27  8:31                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  8:02                             ` [9fans] ISP filtering - update boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 10:15                               ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 10:56                     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-26 12:14               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:49                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:01                   ` rog
2003-09-28 15:53                     ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-26 13:02                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 15:08                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-29  9:11       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-29  9:33         ` boyd
2003-09-25 17:19     ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:32       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:30         ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:48         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:56           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:03             ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 18:10               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:08                 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:21                   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:26                     ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:37                       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:31                         ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:44                           ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 19:46                           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 14:51                             ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 19:32                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:43                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 19:05                       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 17:32                     ` Michael Jeffrey
2003-09-25 17:57       ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:23         ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:46         ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 15:17 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-25 23:30 Sven Lundquist
2003-09-26 13:09 David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:44 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:23   ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 17:31     ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 18:29       ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 18:51       ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:33     ` David Presotto
2003-10-06  9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 12:55   ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 17:59     ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-09-26 14:49 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-26 19:49 ` boyd, rounin

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