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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:09:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030926140924.M19995@cackle.proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f3c75ef821ce85dba22942ef0ea545e@plan9.bell-labs.com>; from David Presotto on Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:07:16AM -0400

On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 08:07:16AM -0400, David Presotto wrote:
>
> > No, the right idea is to build your own, white- or blacklist.  In
> > PGP, you ask your friends to sign your key, eventually you may be
> > lucky to hit common signatories and the web of trust starts happening.
> > Can't say I've seen it in action, but it may well work.
>
> SMTP mostly comes from providers (ISP's) and not your friends (unless
> your friends happen to own ISP's).

But SMTP "has" to specify a MAIL FROM which should match a whitelist
entry (with certificate to stop repudiation).  That doesn't take
much unless the certificate needs to be exchanged too.

The other option is to use SSL or TLS to carry SMTP (surely such
a thing already exists?) and assign responsibility for delivered
spam to the client establishing the session.  In other words, I
inspect your certificate, decide I can identify you in front of
a judge and accept the mail.  Otherwise, you're out of luck.

++L


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-26 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-25 11:32 Aharon Robbins
2003-09-25 12:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 13:42 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 14:48   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 15:07     ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-25 15:34       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 16:41         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-25 17:20           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:28           ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 17:37             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:12               ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:19                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 18:25                 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:29                   ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:39                     ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:43                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:51                   ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 19:06                     ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:35                       ` mirtchov
2003-09-26 10:16                       ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-25 19:48                     ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 10:17                     ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-26 11:44                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:37                 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:40             ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 17:47             ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26  2:03           ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-09-25 16:06     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:21       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:26         ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:45           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:05             ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:05             ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 18:16               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 21:39             ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:47               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:56                 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:08                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:31                     ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 10:13                     ` David Lukes
2003-09-25 19:59       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:22         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:38           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:16       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:45         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:46         ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 21:25           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:36             ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:50               ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-25 21:58                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:10                 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-25 22:34                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:19                 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:37                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 23:10                   ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 23:21                     ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-26  0:01                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26  0:11                     ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26  0:45                       ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 22:32             ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 22:27           ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 22:53             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26  4:33           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 10:45             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:07             ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:09               ` Lucio De Re [this message]
2003-09-26 12:21                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:39                   ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:58                     ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:23                       ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 13:33                         ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:46                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 14:01                             ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 14:36                               ` rog
2003-09-26 15:03                                 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:22                                   ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-26 19:41                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:23                               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:00                                 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06  9:01                               ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06  9:22                                 ` boyd
2003-10-06 11:19                                   ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 18:09                                     ` boyd
2003-09-26 13:55                         ` rog
2003-09-26 14:25                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 19:38                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:06                               ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:50                           ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 20:31                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:18                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:44                           ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 21:13                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  6:01                           ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27  8:00                             ` [9fans] PEM boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  9:43                               ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27  8:31                                 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27  8:02                             ` [9fans] ISP filtering - update boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 10:15                               ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 10:56                     ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-26 12:14               ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:49                 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:01                   ` rog
2003-09-28 15:53                     ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-26 13:02                   ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 15:08                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-29  9:11       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-29  9:33         ` boyd
2003-09-25 17:19     ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:32       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:30         ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:48         ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:56           ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:03             ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 18:10               ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:08                 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:21                   ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:26                     ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:37                       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:31                         ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:44                           ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 19:46                           ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 14:51                             ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 19:32                         ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:43                     ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 19:05                       ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 17:32                     ` Michael Jeffrey
2003-09-25 17:57       ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:23         ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:46         ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 15:17 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-25 23:30 Sven Lundquist
2003-09-26 13:09 David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:44 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:23   ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 17:31     ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 18:29       ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 18:51       ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:33     ` David Presotto
2003-10-06  9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 12:55   ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 17:59     ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-09-26 14:49 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-26 19:49 ` boyd, rounin

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