From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] ISP filtering - update
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:47:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0309251245270.3289-100000@einstein.ssz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c372adca72d22242d17c7a6f7513bbd7@plan9.bell-labs.com>
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, David Presotto wrote:
> As far as I can tell, using laws to stop spammers is not
> very effective. Spam is essentially a nuisance.
I"m with you 100% here, I see the only workable solution as a technical
one controlled by the individual or groups of individuals who share the
same views. The catch is that there must be a mechanism from that
behaviour getting out of hand and infringing others rights. That isn't a
technical solution, nor is it based in criminal law. The only solution
there is civil action.
The approaches that are being tried today are not based on this simple and
clear realization.
-- --
God exists because mathematics is consistent, and the Devil exist because we
can't prove it.
Andre Weil, in H. Eves, Mathematical Circles Adieu
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2003-09-25 11:32 Aharon Robbins
2003-09-25 12:21 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 13:42 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 14:48 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 15:07 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-25 15:34 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 16:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-25 17:20 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:28 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 17:37 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:12 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:19 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 18:25 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:29 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 18:39 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:43 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:51 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 19:06 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 19:35 ` mirtchov
2003-09-26 10:16 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-25 19:48 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 10:17 ` Marcus Andersson
2003-09-26 11:44 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:40 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 17:47 ` Jim Choate [this message]
2003-09-26 2:03 ` Adrian Tritschler
2003-09-25 16:06 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:45 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:05 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:05 ` mirtchov
2003-09-25 18:16 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 21:39 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:47 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:56 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:08 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:31 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 10:13 ` David Lukes
2003-09-25 19:59 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:22 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:16 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 20:45 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 20:46 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 21:25 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 21:36 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 21:50 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-25 21:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:10 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-25 22:34 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 22:19 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-25 22:37 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 23:10 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 23:21 ` Andrew Simmons
2003-09-26 0:01 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 0:11 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-09-26 0:45 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-25 22:32 ` ron minnich
2003-09-25 22:27 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 22:53 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 4:33 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 10:45 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:07 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:09 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:21 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 12:39 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 12:58 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:23 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 13:33 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:46 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 14:01 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 14:36 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:03 ` rog
2003-09-26 15:22 ` D. Brownlee
2003-09-26 19:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:23 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:00 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 9:22 ` boyd
2003-10-06 11:19 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 18:09 ` boyd
2003-09-26 13:55 ` rog
2003-09-26 14:25 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-26 19:38 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 20:06 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:50 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 20:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:18 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 19:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 21:13 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 6:01 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:00 ` [9fans] PEM boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 9:43 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 8:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 8:02 ` [9fans] ISP filtering - update boyd, rounin
2003-09-27 10:15 ` Lucio De Re
2003-09-27 10:56 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-09-26 12:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 12:49 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 13:01 ` rog
2003-09-28 15:53 ` Tristan Seligmann
2003-09-26 13:02 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 15:08 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-29 9:11 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-09-29 9:33 ` boyd
2003-09-25 17:19 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:32 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 17:30 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 17:48 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 17:56 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:03 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 18:10 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:08 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:21 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:26 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-25 18:37 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:31 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:44 ` David Presotto
2003-09-25 19:46 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-26 14:51 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 19:32 ` boyd, rounin
2003-09-25 18:43 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-25 19:05 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-26 17:32 ` Michael Jeffrey
2003-09-25 17:57 ` Joel Salomon
2003-09-25 18:23 ` Jim Choate
2003-09-25 18:46 ` David Presotto
2003-10-03 15:17 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-09-25 23:30 Sven Lundquist
2003-09-26 13:09 David Presotto
2003-09-26 16:44 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:23 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 17:31 ` David Presotto
2003-09-26 18:29 ` Wes Kussmaul
2003-09-26 18:51 ` Dan Cross
2003-09-26 17:33 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 9:01 ` Ralph Corderoy
2003-10-06 12:55 ` David Presotto
2003-10-06 17:59 ` Christopher Nielsen
2003-09-26 14:49 Tiit Lankots
2003-09-26 19:49 ` boyd, rounin
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