ConTeXt and SciTE

ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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I'm trying to get the SciTE lexers that come with the ConTeXt 
distribution working but I'm not having much luck. SciTE certainly 
processes the ConTeXt start-up script but never does any highlighting.

I always get the warning that lpeg is not loaded but I cannot find any 
separate lpeg.properties file or lpeg.lua file so I don't know how to 
get it imported and active to run the lexers. Any suggestions?

Interestingly, the lexers work just fine in Textadept but I haven't 
quite figured out how to get them to load automatically. I have to 
manually select the lexer but it works fine once I do.

I'm inclined to go the Textadept route and build a nice snippets file 
and Adeptsense support but I'd like to see things running in SciTE, too.

Right now I'm using Emacs to do my editing but AUCTeX does a poor job of 
supporting ConTeXt and when I asked about future plans on the AUCTeX 
mailing list, I got a snarky, sarcastic reply that "code doesn't change 
itself." Typical FSF attitude, I see. If I'm going to have to write my 
own support, Lua is much closer to the languages I've used before than 
elisp so it should be considerably easier.

Of course, I'll pass on anything I come up with to the ConTeXt community.


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-6-2012 06:54, Bill Meahan wrote:
> I'm trying to get the SciTE lexers that come with the ConTeXt
> distribution working but I'm not having much luck. SciTE certainly
> processes the ConTeXt start-up script but never does any highlighting.
>
> I always get the warning that lpeg is not loaded but I cannot find any
> separate lpeg.properties file or lpeg.lua file so I don't know how to
> get it imported and active to run the lexers. Any suggestions?
>
> Interestingly, the lexers work just fine in Textadept but I haven't
> quite figured out how to get them to load automatically. I have to
> manually select the lexer but it works fine once I do.
>
> I'm inclined to go the Textadept route and build a nice snippets file
> and Adeptsense support but I'd like to see things running in SciTE, too.

You have to change some configuration files but as that situation seems 
to change every now and then I wait with providing extra files for 
textadept till it's more stable.

(Textadept has no realtime log pane so I cannot use it here without 
sacrificing too much convenience.)

> Right now I'm using Emacs to do my editing but AUCTeX does a poor job of
> supporting ConTeXt and when I asked about future plans on the AUCTeX
> mailing list, I got a snarky, sarcastic reply that "code doesn't change
> itself." Typical FSF attitude, I see. If I'm going to have to write my
> own support, Lua is much closer to the languages I've used before than
> elisp so it should be considerably easier.
>
> Of course, I'll pass on anything I come up with to the ConTeXt community.

concerning scite ... on windows it boils down to

- installing scite
- copying the scintillua lexer dir to the wscite path
- copying the context/data/scite directory to teh wscite dir

on linux it's a bit more complex as you need to figure out where scite 
keeps its properties files and that's sort of hard coded in the binary

(but it does work on linux)

on osx it's not working as there is no lpeg support provided there 
(unfortunately)

Hans


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/19/2012 04:58, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 19-6-2012 06:54, Bill Meahan wrote:

>
> (Textadept has no realtime log pane so I cannot use it here without
> sacrificing too much convenience.)
>

Might be fixable, at least on *nix system. Textadept 5.4 does allow 
running processes in a subshell. I'll have to investigate a bit.


> on linux it's a bit more complex as you need to figure out where scite
> keeps its properties files and that's sort of hard coded in the binary
>
> (but it does work on linux)

Finding the properties files is pretty easy (/usr/local/share/scite/), 
Not sure where to put the lexers directory, though. I changed 
ScITEGlobal.properties per the instructions. There is no lpeg.properties 
file, nothing I've found (so far) in the global file to enable lpeg 
support. Took a scan of the source code and didn't see anything 
blindingly obvious. I'll keep searching.

>
> on osx it's not working as there is no lpeg support provided there
> (unfortunately)

I'm on a FreeBSD-9.0 system. Since OSX is based on FreeBSD perhaps it is 
really there but it will take whatever I find out to make it active.

I'll let everyone know what I find. Thanks for the response.

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-6-2012 18:48, Bill Meahan wrote:

> Finding the properties files is pretty easy (/usr/local/share/scite/),
> Not sure where to put the lexers directory, though. I changed
> ScITEGlobal.properties per the instructions. There is no lpeg.properties
> file, nothing I've found (so far) in the global file to enable lpeg
> support. Took a scan of the source code and didn't see anything
> blindingly obvious. I'll keep searching.

you need to fetch it from

http://foicica.com/scintillua/

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/19/2012 13:28, Hans Hagen wrote:

> you need to fetch it from
>
> http://foicica.com/scintillua/
>

I ended up installing the complete scintillua package and now everything 
works just fine. Had to modify the scintillua Makefile every place where 
there was a bare scintilla/<something> or scite/<something> to 
/usr/ports/editors/scite/work/scintilla/<something> or 
/usr/ports/editors/scite/work/scite/<something> but that was all.

If you wish, you can add FreeBSD-9.0 as a platform it works on.

Thanks for the suggestion. Now on to configuring Textadept to have 
Emacs-style keybindings, starting the ConTeXt lexers automatically, 
creating a snippets file and seeing if I can get a real-time output 
buffer going.


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-6-2012 22:17, Bill Meahan wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 13:28, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> you need to fetch it from
>>
>> http://foicica.com/scintillua/
>>
>
> I ended up installing the complete scintillua package and now everything
> works just fine. Had to modify the scintillua Makefile every place where
> there was a bare scintilla/<something> or scite/<something> to
> /usr/ports/editors/scite/work/scintilla/<something> or
> /usr/ports/editors/scite/work/scite/<something> but that was all.
>
> If you wish, you can add FreeBSD-9.0 as a platform it works on.

maybe we should have a repository in the garden

anyhow, you can edit some info to the scit epage on the wiki

> Thanks for the suggestion. Now on to configuring Textadept to have
> Emacs-style keybindings, starting the ConTeXt lexers automatically,
> creating a snippets file and seeing if I can get a real-time output
> buffer going.

and you can give spell checking a try (you can use mtxrun --script 
--scite to convert a list with words into one suitable for the context 
lexers)

Hans


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/19/2012 16:43, Hans Hagen wrote:

>
> and you can give spell checking a try (you can use mtxrun --script
> --scite to convert a list with words into one suitable for the context
> lexers)
>
> Hans

There is a little module in "Brian's ~/.textadept file" on the Textadept 
wiki that uses aspell to do spell-checking. I'm going to give that a 
try. I can also try using SCOWL plus the method you describe, SCOWL is 
the word-list from which aspell, ispell and hunspell dictionaries are built.

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 19-6-2012 23:27, Bill Meahan wrote:
> On 06/19/2012 16:43, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>>
>> and you can give spell checking a try (you can use mtxrun --script
>> --scite to convert a list with words into one suitable for the context
>> lexers)
>>
>> Hans
>
> There is a little module in "Brian's ~/.textadept file" on the Textadept
> wiki that uses aspell to do spell-checking. I'm going to give that a
> try. I can also try using SCOWL plus the method you describe, SCOWL is
> the word-list from which aspell, ispell and hunspell dictionaries are
> built.

fyi: the context lexers do realtime checking in combination with regular 
lexing

Hans

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/19/2012 04:58, Hans Hagen wrote:

>> Interestingly, the lexers work just fine in Textadept but I haven't
>> quite figured out how to get them to load automatically. I have to
>> manually select the lexer but it works fine once I do.
>>

Turns out they don't work as well as I thought they did. To start the 
context lexers automatically, it is only necessary to configure the 
mime_types.conf file to associate the .tex extension with the desired 
lexer. When I do that, however, Textadept suddenly stops displaying 
anything in the buffer! Even if you load something other than a .tex 
file. :-(

> You have to change some configuration files but as that situation seems
> to change every now and then I wait with providing extra files for
> textadept till it's more stable.
>
> (Textadept has no realtime log pane so I cannot use it here without
> sacrificing too much convenience.)
>

Have you looked at the "run" documentation? It appears from that output 
from whatever command is run is directed to a new buffer in real-time. 
That's what emacs does.

Anybody got a ctags file for ConTeXt?  :-)

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-6-2012 05:04, Bill Meahan wrote:

> Anybody got a ctags file for ConTeXt?  :-)

what are ctags

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 20-6-2012 05:04, Bill Meahan wrote:
>
>> Anybody got a ctags file for ConTeXt?  :-)
>
>
> what are ctags



CTAGS(1)
                                     Exuberant Ctags

          CTAGS(1)

NAME
       ctags - Generate tag files for source code

SYNOPSIS
       ctags [options] [file(s)]

       etags [options] [file(s)]

DESCRIPTION
       The ctags and etags programs (hereinafter collectively referred
to as ctags, except where distinguished) generate an index (or "tag")
file for a variety of language objects found in file(s).  This tag
file allows these items
       to be quickly and easily located by a text editor or other
utility. A "tag" signifies a language object for which an index entry
is available (or, alternatively, the index entry created for that
object).

       Alternatively, ctags can generate a cross reference file which
lists, in human readable form, information about the various source
objects found in a set of language files.

       Tag index files are supported by numerous editors, which allow
the user to locate the object associated with a name appearing in a
source file and jump to the file and line which defines the name.
Those known  about  at  the
       time of this release are:

           Vi(1) and its derivatives (e.g. Elvis, Vim, Vile, Lemmy),
CRiSP, Emacs, FTE (Folding Text Editor), JED, jEdit, Mined, NEdit
(Nirvana Edit), TSE (The SemWare Editor), UltraEdit, WorkSpace, X2,
Zeus

       Ctags  is  capable of generating different kinds of tags for
each of many different languages. For a complete list of supported
languages, the names by which they are recognized, and the kinds of
tags which are generated for
       each, see the --list-languages and --list-kinds options.

-- 
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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 20-6-2012 05:04, Bill Meahan wrote:
>
>> Anybody got a ctags file for ConTeXt?  :-)
>
> what are ctags

They allow you to jump around to specific locations in a file.

For example, in vim, pressing CTRL+] on "\in[sec:first]"  will jump to the 
location where sec:first is defined. Basically, a ctags file contains tag 
and the file name and line number where those tags are defined. The editor 
then reads the ctags file and jumps to the appropriate location.

A few years back, I had written a MkII module that generated ctags file 
when a tex file was compiled (attached). It was a hack that redefined a 
few low level macros.

To provide proper support for ctags, we also need to store the current 
filename and line number for each reference in the tuc file. Then a module 
can read the tuc file and write the ctags file in an appropriate format.

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/20/2012 11:24, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 20-6-2012 05:04, Bill Meahan wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody got a ctags file for ConTeXt? :-)
>>
>> what are ctags
>
> They allow you to jump around to specific locations in a file.
>

SciTE also uses them to generate auto-completion/insertion of language 
commands so a ctags file for ConTeXt itself would be useful.

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/19/2012 17:57, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 19-6-2012 23:27, Bill Meahan wrote:
>> On 06/19/2012 16:43, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> and you can give spell checking a try (you can use mtxrun --script
>>> --scite to convert a list with words into one suitable for the context
>>> lexers)
>>>
>>> Hans

> fyi: the context lexers do realtime checking in combination with regular
> lexing
>
> Hans
>

Tried this, ran into problems.

1. Running the command as shown generates a spell-xx.lua file but 
complains about a spell-xx.lucluac file not being present.

2. The lexer does not load the spell-xx.lua file but will find the 
spell-xx.txt file and try to use that.

3. English words are only found if the 'xx' is 'uk' while 'en' or 'us' 
or 'ca' (Canadian) are not found no matter if % language={en | us | ca} 
(one choice only, I'm just using shorthand here). uk is one particular 
form of English with particular spelling rules (e.g. 'our' instead of 
'or' in words like 'honour' &al. There are also some terms proper in UK 
English that are not considered proper in US English and vice versa.) If 
all variants are not allowed, the generic 'en' ought to be used instead 
of 'uk' as it could be confusing to non-UK users. Ozzies and Kiwis may 
not mind but Yanks and Canucks do. :-)

4. Every 3-letter word is indicated as misspelled. This may be a 
side-effect of using the SCOWL word lists as they only deal with words > 
3-letters (except for some acronyms). Hence common words like 'was' or 
'who' or 'and' are marked as misspelled.

5. Only the first screen-full of text was color-coded. The rest of my 
document did not even have keyword highlighting. Turning off the 
spell-checking by removing the 'language=uk' line restored keyword 
highlighting throughout the whole file.

SciTE 3.1.0 on FreeBSD-9.0-i386

The wordlist(s) tried were from SCOWL 7.1 at http://wordlist.sourceforge.net
formed by cat en*80 | sort | uniq >spell-uk.txt

Yes, that is a big wordlist but decades of doing crosswords has left me 
with a large vocabulary. ;-)


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-6-2012 18:37, Bill Meahan wrote:

> 1. Running the command as shown generates a spell-xx.lua file but
> complains about a spell-xx.lucluac file not being present.

luac compiles the lau file into bytecode (luac comes with lua and needs 
to match the lua version in scite)

> 2. The lexer does not load the spell-xx.lua file but will find the
> spell-xx.txt file and try to use that.
>
> 3. English words are only found if the 'xx' is 'uk' while 'en' or 'us'
> or 'ca' (Canadian) are not found no matter if % language={en | us | ca}
> (one choice only, I'm just using shorthand here). uk is one particular
> form of English with particular spelling rules (e.g. 'our' instead of
> 'or' in words like 'honour' &al. There are also some terms proper in UK
> English that are not considered proper in US English and vice versa.) If
> all variants are not allowed, the generic 'en' ought to be used instead
> of 'uk' as it could be confusing to non-UK users. Ozzies and Kiwis may
> not mind but Yanks and Canucks do. :-)

hm, do you have spell-ca and spell-en etc files? there is no hard coded 
uk check

> 4. Every 3-letter word is indicated as misspelled. This may be a
> side-effect of using the SCOWL word lists as they only deal with words >
> 3-letters (except for some acronyms). Hence common words like 'was' or
> 'who' or 'and' are marked as misspelled.

indeed, internally there is a limit of length 2

i can probably do a check for length i.e. if no 3 character words then 
also no checking

> 5. Only the first screen-full of text was color-coded. The rest of my
> document did not even have keyword highlighting. Turning off the
> spell-checking by removing the 'language=uk' line restored keyword
> highlighting throughout the whole file.

weird

> Yes, that is a big wordlist but decades of doing crosswords has left me
> with a large vocabulary. ;-)

Hans

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-6-2012 20:02, Hans Hagen wrote:

> indeed, internally there is a limit of length 2
>
> i can probably do a check for length i.e. if no 3 character words then
> also no checking

the next version has

return {
  ["max"]=40,
  ["min"]=3,
  ["n"]=151493,
  ["words"]={
   ["aardvark"]="aardvark",
   ["aardvarks"]="aardvarks",

so in your case the 3 would be a 4 and that value is checked when coloring

Hans

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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/20/2012 14:44, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 20-6-2012 20:02, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> indeed, internally there is a limit of length 2
>>
>> i can probably do a check for length i.e. if no 3 character words then
>> also no checking
>
> the next version has
>
> return {
> ["max"]=40,
> ["min"]=3,
> ["n"]=151493,
> ["words"]={
> ["aardvark"]="aardvark",
> ["aardvarks"]="aardvarks",
>
> so in your case the 3 would be a 4 and that value is checked when coloring
>
> Hans

Cool! Many thanks.


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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Bill Meahan]

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On 06/20/2012 14:02, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 20-6-2012 18:37, Bill Meahan wrote:
>
>> 1. Running the command as shown generates a spell-xx.lua file but
>> complains about a spell-xx.lucluac file not being present.
>
> luac compiles the lau file into bytecode (luac comes with lua and needs
> to match the lua version in scite)

I'll have to check the version in scite. I tried manually compiling with 
lua 5.1 with no success.

>

>
> hm, do you have spell-ca and spell-en etc files? there is no hard coded
> uk check

I only tried it with spell-en.{txt | lua} - error message said no valid 
word list loaded. Made a hard link from spell-en.txt to spell-uk.txt and 
it found that. I manipulated the line 1 from %  language=en to
%  language=uk to see the difference.




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Re: ConTeXt and SciTE

[Hans Hagen]

On 20-6-2012 21:05, Bill Meahan wrote:
> On 06/20/2012 14:02, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 20-6-2012 18:37, Bill Meahan wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Running the command as shown generates a spell-xx.lua file but
>>> complains about a spell-xx.lucluac file not being present.
>>
>> luac compiles the lau file into bytecode (luac comes with lua and needs
>> to match the lua version in scite)
>
> I'll have to check the version in scite. I tried manually compiling with
> lua 5.1 with no success.
>
>>
>
>>
>> hm, do you have spell-ca and spell-en etc files? there is no hard coded
>> uk check
>
> I only tried it with spell-en.{txt | lua} - error message said no valid
> word list loaded. Made a hard link from spell-en.txt to spell-uk.txt and
> it found that. I manipulated the line 1 from %  language=en to
> %  language=uk to see the difference.

Forget about the txt file .. just the lua file will do (the luc file 
loads faster but it's neglectable on an edit session). I uploaded new 
scripts that generate a lua fiel with a bit more info and take care of 
the 4 char length (hopefully).

Hans

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ConTeXt and Scite

[Thomas Fehige]

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For the time being, I think I'm giving up on pairing ConTeXt standalone 
and TeXworks on my Xubuntu machine and try to try out SciTE.

In the manual it says that

    If you want to use ConTEXt, you need to copy the relevant files from
    <texroot>/tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite
    to the path were SciTE keeps its property files (*.properties)

Is that the only way? SciTE seems to keep its user-specific properties 
files in my home directory! I don't want to clutter that up with 16 
unhidden files and two directories. At least SciTE's original files are 
hidden ones.

A much more polite way would be if SciTE used a hidden directory named 
"~/.scite", or, better still, "~/.config/scite", to keep its config 
stuff in. Can I reconfigure it to use some place like that?

Cheers -- Thomas

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